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myLot reputation of 76/100. lilwonders456 (1921)   ranked 60 out of 6,373 in politics6 months ago

WHy it is that if a republican politican has an affair than his political career is pretty well dead. But if a democrat does it than it is ok. I mean come on. Clinton has multiple affairs on hilary and most democrats I know say they would vote for him again if they could. The big arguement I heard then was it was an invasion of his privacy and that it was a personal matter between him and his family. But if a republican does it than everyone calls for his head on a pike.
Anyone understant this one?

 
 
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1. myLot reputation of 98/100. astonysh (1824)   ranked 524 out of 6,373 in politics   6 months ago

Democrats like Eliot Spitzer maybe? Last time I checked he was no longer Governor of New York. And I do not expect Mark Sandford to step down either.


myLot reputation of 46/100. thegreatdebater (1033)   ranked 510 out of 6,373 in politics  6 months ago

Good point

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2. myLot reputation of 75/100. heathcliff (791)   ranked 354 out of 6,373 in politics   6 months ago

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myLot reputation of 74/100. darkstormy1 (226)   ranked 1,141 out of 6,373 in politics  6 months ago

I would have to say this is exactly true right on


myLot reputation of 76/100. lilwonders456 (1921)   ranked 60 out of 6,373 in politics  6 months ago

It is true most republicans run on "family values" and Sanford did some too. But his main big thing was "fiscal responsibility".


myLot reputation of 80/100. ZephyrSun (3498)   ranked 94 out of 6,373 in politics  6 months ago

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myLot reputation of 75/100. heathcliff (791)   ranked 354 out of 6,373 in politics  6 months ago

Thanks you guys. The "fiscal responsibilty" comment is true, of course. It was his personal stand against Clinton that bites him back. If he could have remained a Republican who believed only in their fiscal responsibility package and not all the moral superiority nonsense, he might have been better off: He might not have felt the need to hide this relationship and possibly destroy his career with the past week's secrecy.

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3. myLot reputation of 79/100. deathspectacular (847)   ranked 229 out of 6,373 in politics   6 months ago

I agree with the commenter above me. I don't actually care about what goes on in a politician's person life. However, when they make a good chunk of their carreer based on demonizing what other people do in privacy and between consenting adults there should very well be a reckoning for being a huge hypocrite.


myLot reputation of 71/100. ra1787 (225)   ranked 2,012 out of 6,373 in politics  6 months ago

I completely agree the problem is hypocrisy. When politics base most of their action on criticizing everything they don't consider moral then they must do what they preach in practice.
So a republican politic is obviously more exposed to critics of being an hypocrite than a politic of another party that has a more tollerant view on others behaviour.

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4. myLot reputation of 46/100. thegreatdebater (1033)   ranked 510 out of 6,373 in politics   6 months ago

LIL, recent history shows the exact opposite to what you are saying. Democrates like John Edwards, Eliot Spitzer, and Jim McGreevey all either stepped down from office, or stopped their political career because of their affair. But, on the other hand Republicans who run as the party of family values, allow for their cheating politicans to either serve out their terms, or don't force them to resign. Republcians like John Ensign, David Vetter, and Mark Sanford have all had affairs and either are still in office, or were allowed to serve out their terms. Don't you just hate it when facts get in the way.


myLot reputation of 76/100. lilwonders456 (1921)   ranked 60 out of 6,373 in politics  6 months ago

Clinton, JFK, etc... there have been several democrats too that have had affairs and still kept their jobs. Infact it did not even hurt their standing in the country.

I guess it depends on how well they were liked before the scandel to decide if they will get to keep their jobs afterwards.

Personally I feel their personal lives are just that personal. As long as it does not effect their jobs then it is none of our business.

As for sanford. I live in SC and I do not think he going to be allowed to stay our gov. long. The affair isn't the problem. The fact that he abandoned the state is. If he would have just given the LT Gov. the power to take care of things while he was gone then he would not be looking at loosing his job now.


myLot reputation of 46/100. thegreatdebater (1033)   ranked 510 out of 6,373 in politics  6 months ago

"Clinton, JFK, etc... there have been several democrats too that have had affairs and still kept their jobs. Infact it did not even hurt their standing in the country."

I have never seen any proof that JFK had an afair while in office. Do you have an real proof of that happening.

"Personally I feel their personal lives are just that personal. As long as it does not effect their jobs then it is none of our business."

I do agree with you, but I don't understand how it is that republicans have kept their jobs, while Democrats have been forced out. I wish you could enlighten me on this one.

"As for sanford. I live in SC and I do not think he going to be allowed to stay our gov. long. The affair isn't the problem. The fact that he abandoned the state is. If he would have just given the LT Gov. the power to take care of things while he was gone then he would not be looking at loosing his job now."

I can't believe that you aren't calling for his head. Could you imagine if something bad happened in your state while the governor was out getting himself some. It is almost unbelievable to think about a leader of a state just leaving without telling anyone where he was going, and transfering power. But, that is your state.


myLot reputation of 76/100. lilwonders456 (1921)   ranked 60 out of 6,373 in politics  6 months ago

Oh I do think he will resign. Or be forced out. By abandoning the state he has lost the right to be the governor of this state. I in no way want him to stay our governor. But with all the people clamouring for his head in this state right now I do not feel the need to scream for it tooo. The democrats are screaming for it, the republican state party is screaming for it. He has been basically told either he can resign or they will empeach him.
But my main point is this. I have heard a lot about this. Trust me, being in the state people are talking of little else. I think he should be fired because he abondoned the state....not because he had an affair on his wife.


Correct me if I am wrong but didn't JRK have an affair with Marilyn Monroe. I know his brother did. Also one of his aides Ted Sorensen wrote a tell all book about how JFK basically slept with A LOT of women. Some of them have even written books about it. But the press was different then and would not report on it. Today it is harder for political figures to get away with any of it.


myLot reputation of 78/100. coolcoder (1536)   ranked 1,511 out of 6,373 in politics  6 months ago

Hey, if Bill Clinton didn't resign as president, why should Sanford resign as governor? It goes both ways.


myLot reputation of 65/100. anniepa (9234)   ranked 375 out of 6,373 in politics  6 months ago

With the Kennedy's, who may or may not have had affairs wit Marilyn Monroe, by the time all the gossip came out all of the involved parties were dead so they couldn't confirm or deny the allegations. While JFK was alive and in the White House it was believed that he and Jackie lived a "Camelot" existence and RFK was viewed as the possible savior of our country before he was assassinated while campaigning for the Democratic Presidential nomination in 1968.
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5. myLot reputation of 57/100. Latrivia (1556)   ranked 303 out of 6,373 in politics   6 months ago

I may have been a child when the whole Clintion/Lewinsky thing happened, but I still remember people screaming for his head on a pike. The only difference is, I heard more about it from people on the right then people on the left. I'm betting the inverse is the case now.


myLot reputation of 76/100. lilwonders456 (1921)   ranked 60 out of 6,373 in politics  6 months ago

nope. just about everyone is calling for his head on a pike. But not for the affair. But for taking off and leaving the state in a lerch.

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6. myLot reputation of 89/100. aerous (2198)   ranked 379 out of 6,373 in politics   6 months ago

I don't understand what politicians doing that. I think all politicians have an affairs with other women someone is hiding their activities but others caught up because of their political careers. In my point of views. I think politicians is the most liar person. They lie people around them. They promise everything that they know they can't do it...

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7. myLot reputation of 78/100. coolcoder (1536)   ranked 1,511 out of 6,373 in politics   6 months ago

This is an excellent question, but one that won't be answered if the Democrats and liberal media have their way. The thing is, more people need to call them out on their hypocrisy, to not let them get away with excuses and alibis and all of that.Unfortunately, you don't see that in the conservative front. The Democrats have no problem running their mouths about Republican scandals--why should Republicans and conservatives have problems with speaking out against Democrat scandals?


myLot reputation of 76/100. lilwonders456 (1921)   ranked 60 out of 6,373 in politics  6 months ago

well personally I think if it is a personal matter and does not effect their jobs than it is really non of our business. I don't buy into this whole if your a politican or a celebrity that you do not have a right to privacy or a private life outside of work. we all get a private life so should they.

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8. myLot reputation of 59/100. 6precious102 (1418)   ranked 988 out of 6,373 in politics   6 months ago

Republicans extol the virtue of family values and morality; so when they fail in these areas, it seems much more extreme. It's hard to have respect for someone who says one thing and does another. Democrats have no values so they don't care if one of their own as an affair.


myLot reputation of 77/100. spicysweetie21 (1338)   ranked 373 out of 6,373 in politics  6 months ago

Um excuse me, democrats have no values???? could you be anymore blatantly biased and unfair? I'm a democrat and I really dislike John Edwards now because i know now that he cheated on his lovely wife, only a couple of years after she had cancer....but since I'm a democrat, I must have no values at all so does this make me some sort of mutant according to you?lol


myLot reputation of 59/100. 6precious102 (1418)   ranked 988 out of 6,373 in politics  6 months ago

I see I managed to get your knickers in a twist and I apologize for that. I should have said, Democrats in political office instead of Democrats in general. I know there are many fine, upstanding, and moral people who call themselves Democrats. Also, how in the world did you manage to interrupt my comments as calling you a mutant? You might be one, but how would I know?


myLot reputation of 65/100. anniepa (9234)   ranked 375 out of 6,373 in politics  6 months ago

I also certainly disagree that "Democrats have no values"! When it comes to how they live their private lives some do and some don't, just like the Republicans. Democrats just tend to be less judgmental about it because they don't make it the hallmark of their campaigns. It also seems to me that Democrats are often more likely to try to work things out in their marriages while quite a few prominent Republicans have divorced the wife they cheated on and married the "other woman".
Annie


myLot reputation of 52/100. bestboy19 (1378)   ranked 607 out of 6,373 in politics  6 months ago

"Democrats just tend to be less judgmental." Are they also less judgmental about ethical values? This is just what we need, a party that doesn't care about its moral or ethical values. No wonder the country is in the economic mess it's in.


myLot reputation of 77/100. spicysweetie21 (1338)   ranked 373 out of 6,373 in politics  6 months ago

Bestboy, you once again miss the whole point of what Annie was saying, she is saying that sometimes Democrats have MORE moral values that republicans, and morals and ethics are not all about judging people anyways....but Annie I know exactly what you mean, Newt Gingrich is a man that I do not like because he did what you described in his second marriage, but what he when his first marriage started to fail, was even more deplorable. Bestboy, want to say that democrats have no morals or values, well guess what, (the following statements are referring to Gingrich) this democrat says just glossing over the fact that your soon to be ex wife just had surgery because of uterine cancer, and pushing the details of the dissolution of your marriage, which you had children during,all while your wife is recovering from major surgery. Then 6 months after that, obviously, nasty divorce, you marry another woman. Who has the morals and values, a democrat or this republican that I just described?


myLot reputation of 59/100. 6precious102 (1418)   ranked 988 out of 6,373 in politics  6 months ago

In rereading my response to spicysweetie, I discovered I need to learn how to spell. I meant interpret instead of interrupt. Well, I never have been much of a speller. I hope you understood that it was never my intention to infer that Democrats are mutants. Now to the matter at hand. Neither party can brag about their behavior when it comes to values, but at least the Republicans seem to realize that even if they don't always live up to the values they spout, those values are what this country needs. The Democrats, on the other hand, seem to have a "who cares" attitude when it comes to matters of value, honor and principles. Even if values are not a "hallmark of their campaign," they should be a hallmark of their lives. Look at what has happened to this country since ethics has gone by the wayside.

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9. myLot reputation of 77/100. spicysweetie21 (1338)   ranked 373 out of 6,373 in politics   6 months ago

Most people on the discussion have already hit it on the nail, that when a person runs and says that they are all about "family values" but then gets caught with their pants down so to speak, then that makes them a hypocrite and I think that gets people very riled up because he basically lied to them about what was most important to him, and people who say that they would vote for Clinton again I think most of all means that they think he was such a good president that his personal life is not what they first take into consideration...and the Clinton scandal also shows Sanford's hypocrisy because he voted for Clinton's impeachment,,,so there's not really a double standard in this case because Sanford is a hypocrite and he went missing for 6 days i think to go be with some woman in Argentina blink

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10. yexianxiao3 (16)   6 months ago

good point, all people do things for themslves.


myLot reputation of 83/100. ClassyCat (687)   ranked 228 out of 6,373 in politics  6 months ago

Well, whatever the case may be - I say come next voting season - we do some butt kicking and replace some of these folks!

Maybe we need more women in office. According to some statements on the news, they say that mostly (or only) men have affairs, in the political arena.

Just a thought.

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