Pie Crust

@Pigglies (9329)
United States
July 8, 2009 12:07am CST
So what kind of pie crust do you like? I like my grandmother's recipe... which is actually sort of stolen from a cookbook I think. It's just flour, water, shortening, and maybe some sugar. A lot of people are surprised because I guess most pie crusts require dairy or eggs. This recipe is naturally vegan. I'm not skilled at making it, but I love to eat it! Especially with some cherry pie filing!
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@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
19 Jul 09
Hi pigglies, whenever I end up trying to make pastry it ends up as a disaster fit only for the bin which suprises me as in other areas I'm a good cook. I responded to this though as I have absolutely no idea what 'shortening' is and would love to be enlightened. From your post I gather it isn't some kind of butter which is what usually goes in my useless pastry. If it is something which is available here please give some idea of measurements and maybe I'll have yet another go at pastry.
@Pigglies (9329)
• United States
19 Jul 09
I think shortening is easier to use than butter. The most common brand name is "Crisco", you may have heard of it referred to as that? It's basically a white greasy product made from vegetable oil. But it retains the shape of something much easier than butter. I've heard of people even using it in cookies so that they will keep their shape, but I haven't tried that.
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@GardenGerty (169450)
• United States
21 Jul 09
There are some oil based pastries as well. And lard ( animal fat) is supposed to make better pie crusts than anything else because of the chemical construction of the fat. Of course our grands and great grands did not know why, they just knew it did. Shortening is supposed to be healthier.
@Pigglies (9329)
• United States
25 Jul 09
I took a meat course before and I noticed a lot of people would come in to pick up fat scraps. I guess it's hard to find lard now at the market. But a lot of people specifically wanted lamb fat, which is a fat you can store for a longer time. I wonder what they used that for though, I don't think that works with pies.
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@deebomb (15304)
• United States
21 Jul 09
My grandmother just used flour a little salt and either lard or shorting and ice cold water . She always said the secret to a good pie crust was to not over work it. The recipes that I use calls for flour, shorting, egg, water and white vinegar. we always have some left over and sprinkle that with sugar and cinnamon as an extra treat.
@deebomb (15304)
• United States
25 Jul 09
Over working a pie crust will also make it tough.
@Pigglies (9329)
• United States
25 Jul 09
Yeah, I've ruined a lot of pie crusts by overworking them. Mostly it is because I end up ripping it and having to start over.
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@Pigglies (9329)
• United States
27 Jul 09
Yeah, my pie crusts rip then I have to overwork them and then they get tough. Maybe I should just mend them in another way or something next time. It seems inevitable that I will rip the crust.
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@GardenGerty (169450)
• United States
9 Jul 09
The crusts I have grown up with had no eggs or dairy. I got one recipe with eggs in it, but do not use any recipe much lately. I like mine to have a bit of salt in it rather than the sugar. The sugar will make it brown nicely though.
@GardenGerty (169450)
• United States
19 Jul 09
I had not thought about it that way. That makes sense. It also would have made the crust harder to keep fresh. Not that pies ever hung around long enough to grow mold at my house.
@Pigglies (9329)
• United States
21 Jul 09
Pies don't hang around long here either. Back when my great grandmother was making pies though, they didn't even have refrigeration. Except eventually they had a box with ice in it, but still it wouldn't have been easy I guess to store stuff like milk and eggs.
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@Pigglies (9329)
• United States
19 Jul 09
Yeah, I think the addition of eggs and dairy to so many foods must be at least somewhat fairly recent. I'm thinking in the past these items were harder to store so any older recipes aren't as likely to include them.
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@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
26 Jul 09
I make the vinegar pie crust, that is the one with flour, lard, one egg, and vinegar plus a little salt plus the water. I find it easier and you can keep rolling it again and again and it does not get stiff. With the short crust pastry that contains flour, ice water, lard or shortening and a little salt, you have to be careful and not roll it out as much or it gets stiff. My mother-in=law used the short crust pastry recipe to make Saskatoon berry turnovers but she added a little baking powder to it.
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@GardenGerty (169450)
• United States
30 Jul 09
I have used that one, my mom always said it was not as flaky. That is the crust they use for pasties in Michigan, where hubby grew up. You can use apple or lemon juice for the vinegar in a fruit pie and it works fine.
@Pigglies (9329)
• United States
27 Jul 09
I have never heard of using vinegar. This is for fruit pies right? Or like pot pies? That sounds interesting though. I wonder if that would still work if the lard and the egg were replaced.
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@ElicBxn (64169)
• United States
9 Jul 09
well, I think that old style pie crust used lard instead of shortening, but these days most use shortening or butter. Now, to keep the crust dry some brush some egg on their crust, but my mother never needed to do that and her pie crust was yummy. Because she used Crisco, she could do the flour and shortening part up ahead of time and then just put the crust together at the last minute. I sure miss mom's apple pie.
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@Pigglies (9329)
• United States
9 Jul 09
Our recipe always used Crisco I think... not sure how long that stuff has been around, but I think it's been around a really long time. This discussion is making me want some pie. I love cherry pie, but I'm no good at making it.
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@laurahen (596)
• Canada
8 Jul 09
wow! that sounds like a really easy pie crust to make! i made on before and it called for so much butter. i didn't realize how much it was at the time because i always listen to the recipe. but when i tried a piece of it later i could really taste the butter. i know that buttery pie crusts are supposed to be favored but i wasn't sure about it. the recipe also called for eggs. i put apple filling inside the crust and that bit worked out really well. the trick with apples is you need to fry them up with some white sugar and butter in a put just enough to get all the juices out of them. them you drain out the fluid and boil it down until it caramelizes. cherry pie is also one of my favorites!
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@Pigglies (9329)
• United States
9 Jul 09
Yeah, it's pretty easy. I know a lot of people like buttery foods, but I was never much for butter.
@bmorehouse1 (1028)
• United States
14 Oct 09
I just made three pies over the past weekend. I used the old tried and true recipe of flour, shortening, salt and water. It turned out great! I agree that years ago they used lard instead of shortening. Any leftover pie crust I have, I sprinkle cinnamon and sugar on and bake till the crust is lightly browned. Makes a great snack!