Why do we need government help with health insurance... This is why

@iriscot (1289)
United States
July 20, 2009 2:54pm CST
Millions of your premium dollars that you pay for health insurance goes here! http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/5/26/735411/-Health-insurance-industry-CEO-salary-survey,-stay-calm-for-this Ron Williams - Aetna Total Compensation: $24,300,112 Details: Williams earned $24,300,112 in total compensation for 2008, with more than half of that ($13,537,365) coming from option awards. He also received an additional $6,456,630 in stock awards to go along with his base salary of $1,091,764. Personal use of a corporate aircraft and vehicle, as well as financial planning and 401(k) company matches added up to $101,487 for Williams. H. Edward Hanway - CIGNA Total Compensation: $12,236,740 Details: Hanway took a significant pay cut from 2007 to 2008, due mainly to a drop off of more than $11 million in his non-equity incentive plan compensation. Still, his base salary of $1,142,885 surpasses that of Aetna's Williams, and is supplemented by just over $3.6 million in option awards, and just over $820,000 in non-qualified deferred compensation earnings. Also, nearly $21,800 in "other compensation" included the use of a company car with a driver, in-office meals, and emergency assistance services relating to medical exams. Angela Braly - WellPoint Total Compensation: $9,844,212 Details: Braly, like Williams, earned more money in 2008 ($9,844,212) than in 2007 (9,094,271), increasing her option rewards by nearly $1.5 million, and also receiving a $200,000-plus bump in base salary, from $922,269 to $1,135,538. Braly's stock awards dropped from $2,160,159 to $1,750,015 because, according to the SEC, "performance-based restricted stock units awarded in 2008 were cancelled because our ROE target for 2008 was not met." Braly's "other compensation" comprised use of a private jet for her and her family on business trips, just under $10,000 for legal services relating to her employment agreement and cash credits. Dale Wolf - Coventry Health Care Total Compensation: $9,047,469 Details: Wolf is the only CEO on this list who is no longer employed with his associated health plan; he retired from his position on Jan. 30 of this year after serving in that role since Jan. 1, 2005, and was replaced by former CEO Allen Wise. Wolf, whose total compensation dipped quite a bit from 2007 ($14,869,823) to 2008 ($9,047,469), was pleased with the direction the company was headed in at the time of his departure. "I am proud of what a talented group of people have accomplished over the past 13 years of my association with the company," Wolf said, "and I am confident that the fundamentals which are in place today will carry the company forward to continued success." Wolf carried a base salary of $965,000 in 2008, and earned just over $1.9 million in stock awards. His "other compensation," which amounted to $486,447, included transportation on the company's airplane, a company match retirement savings plan and a company match 401(k) plan. Michael Neidorff - Centene Total Compensation: $8,774,483 Details: Neidorff, who's base salary remained at $1 million, received increases in both his bonus ($1.25 million, up from $1 million) and his stock awards ($4.7 million, from $3.98 million) in 2008. According to the SEC, "Neidorff's agreement was amended twice in the past twelve months; (1) to eliminate the non-compete and non-solicitation requirements if there was a ‘hostile change in control' as defined in his agreement and (2) to add language to the agreement to make it compliant with Internal Revenue Section 409A." Neidorff's "other compensation" of just over $418,000 comprised of use of the company airplane "for all travel," life insurance benefits, security services, and tax preparation services, among other things. James Carlson - AMERIGROUP Total Compensation: $5,292,546 Details: Despite a lawsuit regarding Medicaid fraud that cost the Illinois plan $225 million, Carlson himself earned roughly $2 million more than he did in 2007. All aspects of his compensation increased in 2008, from his base salary (up from $608,000 to just over $761,000) to his non-equity incentive plan compensation (up to about $2.8 million from $1.98 million a year ago). Carlson's bonus also grew quite a bit, going from $225,000 in 2007 to $520,312 in 2008; much of that amount was based on long term incentive program goals being met. Carlson's "other compensation," which nearly tripled (going from about $7,000 to just over $20,000), included his employer 401(k) contribution, life insurance premiums, an executive health screening, flight services and a medical insurance stipend. Michael McCallister - Humana Total Compensation: $4,764,309 Details: Despite its pick ups of two smaller health plans (OSF Health Plans of Peoria, IL and Cos/Cariten Healthcare of Knoxville, TN), Humana's McCallister earned roughly $5.5 million less in 2008 than in 2007. While his base salary ($1,017,308), option awards ($3,078,897) and "other compensation" ($668,104) all increased, his non-equity incentive plan compensation and his nonqualified deferred compensation earnings totaled zero dollars. The latter represents a discontinuation of the Officers' Target Retirement Plan, according to the SEC. McCallister's "other compensation" included personal use of the company aircraft for him, and sometimes his family; company contributions to the Supplemental Executive Retirement & Savings Plan and the Humana Retirement & Savings Plan; a once-a-year physical, financial planning assistance, and more. Jay Gellert - Health Net Total Compensation: $4,425,355 Details: Gellert, whose company is considering selling off divisions in at least four states, earned nearly $740,000 in additional compensation for 2008. His overall base salary increased to a little more than $1.2 million from about $1.18 million in 2007, and his stock awards also rose (from about $1.4 million to more than $1.8 million). Gellert's "other compensation," which totaled $131,526, included, but were not limited to, a $53,000 housing allowance, a corporate car and tax reimbursements of nearly $41,000. Richard Barasch - Universal American Total Compensation: $3,503,702 Details: After taking a pay cut from 2006 to 2007, Barasch more than doubled his total compensation for 2008, jumping up from $1,564,293 in 2007. Barasch's base salary jumped up to $857,851 from $798,340 in 2007; his stock and option awards also increased, as did his "other compensation," which reflected a car allowance, relocation benefits and a matching contribution to his 401(k). Also of note for Barasch was the fact that his non-equity incentive plan compensation earnings totaled $1,195,147; in 2007, he did not receive any money in 2007 for such compensation, but took home $1.1 million in 2006. Stephen Hemsley - UnitedHealth Group Total Compensation: $3,241,042 Details: An $895 million class-action lawsuit over stock-option back dating aside, Hemsley still manages to make the cut for this list at No. 10. The UHG CEO's base salary was $1.3 million in 2008, to go along with a non-equity incentive plan compensation worth just over $1.8 million and "other compensation" amounting to slightly more than $119,000. Hemsley's other compensation was a combination of the company matching his contributions under the 401(k) plan and the company matching contributions under his executive savings plan. According to the SEC, "in May 2006, the amount of Hemsley's supplemental retirement benefit was frozen based on his current age and average base salary and converted into a lump sum of $10,703,229." Because of this, "there was no increase in the benefit payable to Mr. Hemsley under his supplemental retirement benefit" in 2008. This is just a partial list, check the amount of salary and perks your insurance provider CEO takes advantage of.
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@Adoniah (7512)
• United States
20 Jul 09
No matter how bad it is now, it will be much worse if the gov. gets its fingers in the pie. Just look at what it has already done with the Banking institutions and the car manufacturers. We will be even more trillions of dollare in debt and then we will have lousy health care like Canada and Europe. Shalom~Adoniah
@barehugs (8973)
• Canada
21 Jul 09
This Canadian is VERY Happy with our (Lousy) Government Health care. We have no health insurance to pay, (none at all) and no Health-Care Insurance CEO gets a 12 million bonus in Canada. Every Canadian ( even the homeless) is covered , and No Canadian has ever lost his home, and or life savings, just because he was unfortunate enough to get sick. Our plan is not perfect, but its Miles better than the American way!
• United States
21 Jul 09
I hate to hurt your feelings but with Gov. run health care that won't change. The gov. will just sub contract it out to these insurance companies to manage it. Which means they will still get their huge salaries and benefits. They will just take all the money the government gives them....pay themselves what htey want and use what is left over for our healthcare. LOok at the war....it is a good to be a gov. sub contracter. You make money hand over fist with very little oversight. The same will happen with healthcare.
@iriscot (1289)
• United States
21 Jul 09
You have a point there and I guess we'll just have to wait and see how things work out. I guess you remember that there were poor or no watchful eyes when the banking and lending industries went wild and it caused the country to be in the financial situation that we are in today? It seems the conservatives would like to keep our government in a "hands off" position so big business can just "run wild". I believe that plan started when Ronald Reagan was president.
@gewcew23 (8007)
• United States
21 Jul 09
Oh but we what to let our health care decisions be determined by a government political appointed bureaucrat. Those d@mm rich folk, boy we should just throw them all in jail. How dare them become more successful than you! What difference does it make to you or anyone how much someone else make. Would your little life be any better if these CEO's made less than you? Would you celebrate the victory that someone else can enjoy being as miserable as you?
@iriscot (1289)
• United States
21 Jul 09
If a person is paying for his or her own health insurance with any of the mentioned companies they should be enraged at those figures. Possibly, you have your premiums paid by someone else and don't realize the increasing cost of health insurance every year. A person or family in the lower income bracket has a hard time paying premiums of $800 or more per month for health care insurance, and over 50 million of our citizens in this country go without insurance because there is no way they can pay for it. A lot of young people care nothing about health insurance and they don't consider the fact that some day they will need medical care. My contention is: If those CEOs and other executive officers of the insurance companies weren't filled with greed, the premiums could be a lot less, and that is just my opinion, as you have yours. You can side with "those rich folks", and maybe you are one of them, all you want but they are "ripping off" their policy holders.
• United States
20 Jul 09
oh, but these salaries are ok with Obama? If we make small business owners pay taxes or pay the premiums, then it won't have to come out of these pockets! But we can't put a cap on what these people make. I think that we should drop the health care plan for now, it is going to cost way to much money! I just recieved a hospital bill today, I was billed $464 for an ultra sound!! And this wasn't some high tech hospital, or high tech 3 or 4-D picture. This was an old ancient ultrasound machine, in an average hospital. And you are telling me that it was a $464 dollar ordeal. It lasted all of 3 minutes, was operated by one lady. Two pics were printed out. So, even with her salary, the cost of the electricity to run the machine, and the two pieces of thin paper...how exactly did this come to over $400?? I think our hospitals have gotten to greedy...and people can't afford insurance, so they can't pay these outrageous prices, and everyone suffers. What ever happened to 'you pay what you get, and you get what you pay.'
@iriscot (1289)
• United States
20 Jul 09
I don't understand your comment. Did your insurance company pay the $464 bill? I agree that amount sounds like a rip-off. Or don't you have insurance? I don't know where you got the idea that a universal government backed health care plan is going to cause you harm. The cost of medical care has gotten completely out of control and the cost for an individuals' insurance coverage is terribly expensive. There are people who earn only 20 to 25 thousand dollars a year. Most insurance plans will cost a married couple over $800 per month, that comes to $9600 a year, subtract that from $25000 and that only leaves $15400 a year to pay monthly bills, cloth and feed the family. If they own a car there are additional expenses and gasoline is very expensive (thanks to the oil barons). Now tell me where you got the information that the high salaries and perks that these CEOs listed are ok with President Obama?
@raviapts (64)
• India
21 Jul 09
Hi Friends!why do we need government help with health insurance This is why?in world Most of people are middle class and below middle class,so people need government help like insurance.
• United States
20 Jul 09
If they made our rates less they would have to forgo their gold plated toilet seats and diamond studded pencils. Honestly, who could ask them to do that? To ask such is communism, I tell you! (/Sarcasm)
@iriscot (1289)
• United States
20 Jul 09
Hmm... I gues that's right and they might have to fly on commercial airlines or take the train. But that would be below their dignity(/more sarcasm)
@anniepa (27955)
• United States
21 Jul 09
The sad part about this is these people got their huge salaries and bonuses on the backs of people whose treatments were denied by their insurance companies. They're that "bureaucrat between us and our doctors". do you trust these overpaid insurance executives more than the government? At least someone from the government - especially an elected official - has to PRETEND to care if we live or die. Annie
@elmiko (6630)
• United States
21 Jul 09
this isn't surprising although i don't think they should be paid so much. the health care costs to all the patients would dwarf their income. if you go to a government budget web site you can understand more.