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myLot reputation of 98/100. mentalward (4367)   ranked 9 out of 2,586 in gardening5 months ago

My son has shown an interest in taking over my other house in southern Virginia, zone 7a to the gardening fanatics here. It has three beautiful acres. I told him that, as long as he pays the taxes, he can have the house but I want to start an orchard or something and he can be caretaker as payment for the house.

I was initially thinking of growing Ranier cherry trees because they are so expensive to buy in grocery stores. They are THE most expensive, possibly because their sugar content is so high that they do not store well.

But, then, I though, maybe a pumpkin patch wouldn't be a bad idea... everybody wants pumpkins for Halloween and those who are really into cooking use fresh pumpkins to make pies, cookies, bread, etc.

Then again, strawberries aren't cheap, either! My strawberry plants are, right now, sending out shoots with new plants faster than I can provide room for them!

I have so many ideas! I've wanted to put that land to good use since I bought it 3 years ago but, since the house had been sitting empty for over 2 years now, I didn't want to do anything because I couldn't decide whether to sell the place or rent it out. If my son can find a job down there, he really wants to live in that house and fix it up and I couldn't think of a better caretaker... he's great with plants.

What would you grow in zone 7a if you had 3 acres of open land? I'm talking about a cash crop here, not for personal consumption... something I can sell to markets.

Nuts, maybe? I could grow almonds, walnuts, pecans, everything but tropical things. Can you help me decide?

 
 
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1. myLot reputation of 81/100. Archie0 (3139)   ranked 997 out of 2,586 in gardening   5 months ago

This idea of you is really profitable if you also think of business into it.I think you should start it with all the things which you think is a bit cheap,because at the very beginning if you think of growing all the expensive fruits at your orchard then their maintanence cost for you will be at a very high rate too.So why dont you make a mixture of 3:1 ratio that is cheap fruits:expensive fruits means you will be at a balance, even if you will loose in expensive at the beginning then you will atleast have the fruits of cheaper grown fruits trees:) and then slowly you can extend your business or your taste in your intrest.


myLot reputation of 98/100. mentalward (4367)   ranked 9 out of 2,586 in gardening  5 months ago

The place where we live has 3 1/2 acres, two of which are open, with no woods or undergrowth. I've already planted apple, pear, peach, cherry, plum and almond trees here and they're doing fine. I'm learning as I go along because I did lose two apple trees to, I think, rabbits, who tunneled under the ground and ate the small roots of these trees. I've learned to place barriers underground around the trees and a foot above the ground. I also have netting that I place over the trees to protect the fruit from birds.

I have strawberries, blackberries, blueberries and raspberries here as well as kiwi vines and asparagus plants. All are doing exceptionally well. But these I grow for personal consumption and give the extras to my family and friends.

The land I own in southern Virginia is rated as agricultural and used to be part of a large corn farm. The soil is fertile and ripe for growing and, because there is so much of it, I could make a nice living off of whatever I can sell.

I know the kind of work it takes from doing it here, so I'm prepared for that, besides, my son will be doing most of the work. I am always at my happiest when I am gardening; it's my favorite "hobby". I've always heard that if you turn a hobby that you love into a business, you'll never work another day in your life, because it won't feel like "work" to you. I know that farming is affected by the weather and there will be some years when I won't get good crops but I won't be relying on this as my only income so I'm prepared for that.

As for extending my business, I have become very good at rooting cuttings so I will not have to buy a lot of trees. I can buy a dozen or so, then take cutting from them, root them and have new trees for free.

Also, this is in an area where there is a lot of poverty. I would have a ready supply of help whenever I need it, to help harvest everything.

I've thought a lot about this and believe I have all angles covered. I just wish I could grow tropical fruits because they are my favorite, especially pineapples, bananas and mangoes. Maybe one day I could have a solarium built to grow some tropical fruits but I'll start with what will survive naturally in this area.

Thanks so much for your input and suggestions.

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2. myLot reputation of 91/100. anna04 (146)   ranked 1,199 out of 2,586 in gardening   5 months ago

first of all, you need to know what kind of vegetable or fruit is compatible to the soil in that land of yours (not being rude sorry). Also, I guess it is important to check the temperature because there are some plants that can't survive due to intense temperatures.

It is up to you what you want to plant, pumpkins and strawberries do sound nice:) My father also own a farm (two farms actually) and one is a type of farm where they take care of fishes such as st. peter's fish, catfish and such with tamarind, indian mangoes and the philippine...oh yeah, in that farm we also have chicken, geese, goats and ducks lol. In the other farm, it is mostly vegetables like eggplant, tomatoes, okras, bitter gourd or ampalaya, bell peppers, all that. Also, we have cacao trees and lemon trees lol.

I guess I forgot to mention that i'm from the philippines so these plants and such are suited here.

Anyway, what I'm trying to say is you should plant the things that are well compatible in your place. I'm sure whatever you'll be planting will come out just fine:) It all takes hardwork and perseverance.

(I'm not exactly a farm person because I was born in the city but my father used to bring me to the farm and pick ripe fruits and vegetables)

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3. myLot reputation of 97/100. pergammano (2020)   ranked 89 out of 2,586 in gardening   5 months ago

I have found, truly, the least demanding crop that I have grown, in the same zone as you is GARLIC..and go for the designer ... this year I grew 7 different kinds, and next year"the world is my oyster"....so thrilled with this year's crop...BUT am changing my venue to HORSERADISH...as NO-ONE produces a HOT enough one!

I hate this, I was NOT advised of your discussion, but gardening being my passion, stumbled upon it. Lots of seeds, would you like more....all double/triple peony? Love ya, girl...PM me..and Cheers!


myLot reputation of 98/100. mentalward (4367)   ranked 9 out of 2,586 in gardening  5 months ago

Hi pergammano! I haven't seen you in... well, too long! How are you?

I always plant garlic cloves around my other crops because rodents tend to avoid them so they help keep some critters away. I've produced some really nice garlic bulbs, too! I want to plant some of those HUGE garlic cloves.

You sound like my husband regarding horseradish. To him, the hotter, the better. He loves radishes, too, and the hottest ones grow in the hottest months, so I've just recently planted some seeds so he can have his hot radishes. I prefer mild... pretty much everything. I've always said I don't want to eat anything that bites back. LOL

Double/triple peony? I'd LOVE some! I have a lot of columbine seeds and "sparkler plant" seeds... can't remember, offhand, what their official name is but they look like fireworks exploding when they blossom. Would you like some of them? I should have some rare coneflower seeds very soon... the blossoms are dying back now so it won't be long before I can collect seeds. These coneflowers (I'll look up their official name) are purple on the inside of the pedals and green on the outside. They're really pretty! I could send you some of them, too, because each blossom produces at least 50 seeds and I have about 6 blossoms.

I love wandering around our land here because I'm always finding something new growing wild. I found some honeysuckle vines, black eyed susans, purple coneflowers, and one tiny pine tree, only about 5" tall. I want to transplant it to a sunnier location because it's at the edge of the woods right now and needs more light. I've also taken cuttings from a lot of beautiful bushes around here and rooted them. I'm just now having trouble deciding where to plant them. I'm getting more and more into it as more of the perimeter of the area where I'm gardening is being fenced off to keep most of the wildlife out. I've been planting cuttings I rooted from a silver lace vine that I planted the first year we lived here, at the fencing so, hopefully, they'll eventually hide the fencing. I'd rather have it look natural than man-made... or woman-made in some cases. wink

I planted some of those seeds you sent me early in the Spring but they were washed away, apparently. I planted more but have yet to see even one poking out of the ground. Well, a few things are questionable... they don't look like any weeds I've seen growing around here so they may just be from those seeds you sent.

My husband FINALLY put up the arbor I bought back in 2007. I had planted kiwi vines near the place I wanted the arbor so they could grow up and around it. Hopefully, next year, that will look nice. I'll try to get some photos of what I've done so far. It's slow going, with my physical problems because I can't do too much in any one day because I'll be out of commission for a day or two afterward, so I try to pace myself. The land around the house is actually starting to look really nice! It was so plain and devoid of color when we moved in but, to me, it was a blank canvas. I saw the potential and it's finally starting to show. thumbup

So, back to the beginning, I just may plant garlic around the property in southern Virginia, as well as near each tree I plant. It will not only keep the rodents at bay but I should get a pretty nice crop of garlic (and no worries about vampires getting too close, either!).

I'm pretty tired at the moment because I took my evening pills about an hour ago and a couple of them add about 20 pounds to each eyelid. I'll write you an email tomorrow morning. Promise! Take care of yourself. Love ya, too!

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4. myLot reputation of 96/100. dragon54u (9797)   ranked 3 out of 2,586 in gardening   5 months ago

If you're thinking orchards and nuts you'll be waiting a long time for your first crop, if I'm not mistaken. Trees take awhile to grow and produce. Strawberries are a good crop to sell but backbreaking to harvest so you'll have to think about hiring people to pick those 2-3 acres of strawberries! Can you grow peaches there? I bet that would be a big hit. It's hard to find good peaches, the ones in the store don't even smell like peaches anymore!


myLot reputation of 98/100. mentalward (4367)   ranked 9 out of 2,586 in gardening  5 months ago

You're right about them taking awhile for the first crop but when I buy trees, I buy 3 year old trees. You can buy 1 or 2 year old trees but the one year olds look like twigs and the two year olds are just too small. The three year old trees should take only a couple of years to produce fruit. I have taken cuttings from a Ranier cherry tree I have and know I'll have to wait at least 5 years before they bear any fruit but, to me, they're worth the wait. So sweet!

This land is in an area of very low income. It boggles my mind why more people don't even have a small garden growing but, maybe the reason why they're poverty-stricken is because they're lazy. But, I'm sure I could hire people to help harvest whatever I end up growing.

Yep, peaches grow here. I have 2 peach trees here where we live that have already produced peaches. Well, one of them only produced 3 peaches because deer got to it the first year I planted it and destroyed about half the tree. I'm slowly barricading the area where my trees are so I've had no more deer damage since then.

They also grow in southern Virginia, which is zone 7a. I lived in zone 7a in Maryland and grew several peach trees successfully. The peaches I got this year were so sweet and so juicy! I know exactly what you mean about the ones in the stores. I was looking at them a few days ago and they looked awful! Most had bruises, some were actually rotting, and others were way too immature. I have an almond tree, too, which looks almost exactly like a peach tree and it has almonds growing. Last year, the squirrels got to them before I did so this year I've done all I can to ensure the squirrels don't get to them. They're almost ready to harvest now.

I was thinking of building roadside stand (well, have it built) and sell whatever I grow down in Southern Virginia. My son will be there to oversee everything and, if I sell them cheaper than the stores, I'm sure I'll be able to make a nice profit from selling them to neighbors, some of whom are on a fixed income or earn very little.

If I do grow strawberries down there, I'll have a "pick your own" type thing and just sell them per pound. I'll have to pick some myself because I LOVE strawberry jam and strawberry syrup for pancakes and waffles. I have all the canning equipment I need already so it's just a matter of how much I want to make. Strawberries sure do multiply like crazy!!! I have netting to put over them to keep the birds away.

Oh! Because of all the rain, I had to make a second planting of tomato plants. Yesterday, I picked my first ripe one. It was HUGE! I have always looked forward to biting into that first, vine-ripened tomato of the season and it was soooooooooooooo good! Of course, as tomatoes go, they're all starting to ripen at once... I picked two yesterday and two more should be ready by Monday at the latest. More should be ready by the end of next week. I plan to make some salsa because everyone in my family loves salsa. But, that first bite of that first ripe tomato, nothing beats it!


myLot reputation of 96/100. dragon54u (9797)   ranked 3 out of 2,586 in gardening  5 months ago

It sounds as if you've really thought this out! I think you'll do fine. Are you going to plant beans and peas and other staples?

My friend Dan has a great recipe for salsa and it's one of the few things I miss about the Southwest. His salsa was SO flavorful! Ever had salsa that burned your mouth? This is spicy but the flavor is very distinctive and I would make it milder if I were making it--which I will, next year! Dan and his wife are good friends and he sells vegetables to local markets, he loves to garden! Here is his sight where you can get the recipe: http://planetspaceage.blogspot.com/

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5. myLot reputation of 94/100. neildc (3531)   ranked 1,039 out of 2,586 in gardening   5 months ago

Hi friend. I heard Americans love pumpkins during Halloweens. So I guess it would be a good idea for you land. Strawberries would also be a good idea. There's a place somewhere in the northern part of the Philippines which is somewhat a mountain province, they have lots of strawberries up there. And because they harvest more, they only not sell the fruits but they also make strawberry jams for sale to the tourists. Take care, always.

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6. myLot reputation of 89/100. revellanotvanella (1946)   ranked 1,023 out of 2,586 in gardening   5 months ago

Im in the northeast and my vegetables are container plants Im shocked that they grew.
I didnt any chemicals whatsoever. My collard greens did grow fine but got eaten up by the bugs...or slugs? both. My best plants were cherry tomatoes and red peppers. Those sound good to me. Red peppers are nearly always on the bottom of my list when produce shopping because there so expensive even at farmers markets sometimes. Cherry tomatoes are easy to use in anything.

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7. myLot reputation of 89/100. greenfeathers (664)   ranked 1,638 out of 2,586 in gardening   5 months ago

First thing I would do is get the soil tested for ph balance to know what would grow best in those soil conditions or to know how to doctor those conditions to what you finally decide to grow.
If you're planning on the fruit and nut trees you will indeed be waiting a few years for first harvest. You'd need something to carry you until then.
Don't only think in terms of people food..Perhaps sugar beet and/or soy for animal feed and pet products..Did you know they are now making a 'plastic' biodegradeable cup from corn oil? There's a interesting option. GREEN products command nice prices. Oriental root veggies like icicle radish and jicama always have marketability with oriental/asian restaraunts and such. Cool weather products (early spring and fall) like green peas, broccoli and cauliflower to extend your potential beyond warm weather profits. Those decorative gourds that are all over in the fall or the exetic melons. Or berries which require little attention but lovely pay-off.
There's lots to choose from. Enjoy the adventure!

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8. myLot reputation of 99/100. leenie50 (1838)   ranked 670 out of 2,586 in gardening   5 months ago

Hi Marti,

How about fruit trees and vegetables you can sell on a road side stand? Cherries are difficult because the birds are quicker than the eye. One day they look just about ready to pick, the next day they are stripped clean, and I mean clean! I don't know what kind of fruits you can grow there but a couple of pear trees, grapes, maybe blackberries and blueberries. These are things you can set up so that they are convenient to pick or harvest. In California, I had apple trees, 2 pear rees, 2 cherry trees of which I never had 1 cherry. Blackberry bushes (made blackerry Jam), concord grapes, made grape jam and great wine, green grapes. Then I had a black walnut tree, delicious but hard to crack. Regular walnuts would be very profitable, as well as almonds. All of these things are relatively easy to work with. Then I had a huge garden with every thing imaginable.
As long as your Son is willing and able, I can't think of anything more fun to do.
Good luck and a big hug,
leenie

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9. myLot reputation of 90/100. sleblanc17 (124)   ranked 2,372 out of 2,586 in gardening   5 months ago

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10. myLot reputation of 85/100. kl_blueknight (319)   5 months ago

I am getting jealous of your farm coz I have always wanted one. Shame I do not have the money. Why not grow apples, plums, pears and oranges? I used to have 2 pear trees and 4 apple trees in my back garden in London I just love the juicy pears. I bet you prefer your pumpkin patch as you have a much bigger land.

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