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1. dawnald (24272)
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3 years ago
| | Well thank you for the interesting piece of history! I often think about the fact that I have Jewish ancestry on my Father's side and German ancestry on my Mother's side and I shudder to think what they might have been doing to one another had both sides remained in the old country. I visited Dachau when I was living in Germany and it was very sobering to be in a place like that and see the museum and realize what had gone on there. | | | | | | |
cynthiann (5235)
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3 years ago
| | We have to always remember that it is not all the citizens in a country that are evil - mostly just some of their dictator like rulers. The citizens usually lived in fear. I was very emotional, and so was he when he asked me to day good bye in dialect and then he wrote in down phonetically. I will always treasure this experience. Here's to freedom, says Cynthie as she raises her glass. The Maroons live today all over the world and are proud of th fact that they are maroons. They have their own laws and elect a Colonel to be in charge. I inrend to visit their community at thir next celebration. | | | |
dawnald (24272)
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3 years ago
| | My in-laws and their friends actually lived through Nazi Germany, so I hear stories. Nope, it's not the ordinary citizens in general though some of them did do horrible things under the umbrella of "following orders"... | | | |
cynthiann (5235)
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3 years ago
| | forgot to add that many people in the world think that the concentration camps did not exist. As a teenager my dentist's wife had survived a concentration camp and had the numbers still tattooed on her wrist. She refused to have it removed as she said that wherever she wanted people would ask her about it and then she would tell them about what had happened. Oh Lord, I am so behind in my work that I will have toi take it home to finish! Bye bye | | | |
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dawnald (24272)
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3 years ago
| | um yeah and George Washington's wooden teeth had a clandestine relationship with the cherry tree... | | | |
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dawnald (24272)
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3 years ago
| | omg keep it up and you are going to end up with the pun queen crown! | | | |
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2. katsmeow1213 (7761)
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3 years ago
| | What a great and amazing story. I love learning about history and all of that would have been so interesting to see. I love that stuff. I don't really know my ancestry. I'm just a huge jumble of many different heritages, and I don't think there's any 1 particular nationality that sticks out among the rest in my blood. I've asked my mother over and over and she calls me "Heinz 57" which just means a bunch of different nationalities. I wish I did have just one, or at least one more dominant. I'd love to be able to claim a nationality. Guess I'm just American in every sense of the word! | | | | | | |
katsmeow1213 (7761)
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3 years ago
| | Oh... I have a question... could you explain what a "maroon" is? | | | |
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cynthiann (5235)
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3 years ago
| | Maroons were Africans who were brought by the British to Jamaica as slaves but they refused to be slaves and run into the hills and forests to hide. They established camps and really were the first guerilla fighters as they camouflaged their bodied with leaves etc and killed the British Soldiers who were hunting them down. The British were easy to spot as they still wore red coats at that time!They have many heroes and established camps in different areas of the Island. Eventually a treaty was reached with the British who said that they would send them back to Africa but instead they sent them to Canada. They managed to survive the dreadful winter weather in cabins and coal firs and refused to be slaves. They worked in the coal mines and helped build the forts to keep out Napoleon Bonaparte of France. They started trading with Jamaica and sent as our salted cod fish. To this day, cod fish is till salted and sent to Jamaica and it is part of our National dish served with ackees (another Jamaican fruit)Many of them have qualified as doctors and professors all over the world but they return and visit and help their fellow Maroons. If they own businesses then they pay taxes but they have their own laws and leader too. Basically they still do a lot of farming and animal husbandry and keep to many of their old ways. They are a proud people still. | | | |
katsmeow1213 (7761)
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3 years ago
| | My mom doesn't know much about her own family, I think they were small, like no cousins or any of that, and I've never heard her talk about her own grandparents. My father is a complete mystery, so you see I haven't really been inspired to go digging up information, my own mother doesn't even know!! Thanks for the history lesson on the maroons. Quite interesting! Like I said, I love learning bits about history, and that's something I'd never heard before. You learn something new everyday. | | | |
cynthiann (5235)
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3 years ago
| | You are welcome Kat. | | | |
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3. ANTIQUELADY (16514)
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3 years ago
| | Bless your heart, how emotional that had to be for you. I know very little about my ancestors which is too bad. | | | | | | |
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ANTIQUELADY (16514)
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3 years ago
| | I hope u meant that as a compliment, lol. I know u did just teasing w/you. | | | |
cynthiann (5235)
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3 years ago
| | No I really meant it as a compliment. Americans are wondeful people - they are also resiliant and strong and will survive anything | | | |
ANTIQUELADY (16514)
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3 years ago
| | I was just teasing w/u . Cynthi. thanks for the compliment. Hope your weekend is a great one.hugs. | | | |
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4. jillhill (17704)
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3 years ago
| | Not with my relations.....but my father was a disabled veteran from the second world war....when I stood on the Arizona in Hawaii....all I could do was cry thinking of all the soldiers that had lost their lives...it was such an emotional thing.....my son was about 14 at the time......and he stood and cried too. | | | | | | |
cynthiann (5235)
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3 years ago
| | I know exactly how you feel. When we went to Church at the Cathedral then sometimes my father would come and then he would lead us to the war memorial and point out the names of his father and eldest brother who died in the war. He always had tears in his eyes. So many gave their lives for freedom of us all today. They really did die for freedom. Many thanks for sharing | | | |
jillhill (17704)
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3 years ago
| | And thank you for sharing your wonderful story though it also jerked my heart a bit! So very sad! | | | |
cynthiann (5235)
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3 years ago
| | Can you imagine how they suffered that first winter without adequate clothing or housing? It really must have been a nightmare. What many people do not understand is that many of the slaves who came were architects, master builders and doctors etc.A high portion were highly intelligent and educated people. I have seen a hospital on the Island that was built by slaves and the walls are 'true' to the last centimetre. There were many professionals and they came with a wealth of knowledge.The history is amazing. | | | |
katsmeow1213 (7761)
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3 years ago
| | Let that be a humbling lesson to anyone who thinks they're better than others due to their intelligence!! In that era it made no difference. | | | |
cyrus123 (3255)
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3 years ago
| | Hi jillhill! My parents and I went to Hawaii in 1972 and we rode a boat out to Pearl Harbor. We saw the Arizona Memorial but we didn't get out and walk on it. At the time, I just felt like it would be like stepping on somebody's grave. I have the movie, "Pearl Harbor", and at the end, it shows where they are having a meeting of some veterans and they're giving out awards. I can't remember what it was eactly but it was something like that. My uncle, daddy's brother, was in the navy and he was stationed at Pearl Harbor when the Japanese bombed it. He was off that day but he had to go to work after it happened. I found out several years later who gave the most money to the Arizona Memorial. Do you know who it was? It really shocked me when I heard it. Elvis Presley! Kathy. | | | |
cynthiann (5235)
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3 years ago
| | Yes, Kat, most people do not realise how well educated many of the slaves were. They were classified as dumb and ignorant because they did not speak the language and the culture was strange to them. Of course they were then forbidden to speak their own language and this is a well known tactic to divide a people. Cyrus, thanks for sharing this with us. So many of us have histories that need to be told. I appreciated the responses despite them being so few. | | | |
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5. AmbiePam (20775)
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3 years ago
| | What a soul changing moment. | | | | | | |
cynthiann (5235)
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3 years ago
| | It was AmbiePam, a very emotional moment and also enlightening. | | | |
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6. lilybug (16938)
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3 years ago
| | What an adventure your little vacation must have been. I really do not know specifics about my ancestry although I do have a few family members who have done a bit of research. I have a lot of Irish in my blood along with Cherokee Indian. A bunch of other stuff mixed in as well. I did learn recently that some of my ancestors were responsible for kidnapping St. Patrick when he was a teenager. | | | | | | |
cynthiann (5235)
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3 years ago
| | Oh, that is so funny! Kidnapping St. Patrick! I know that I have one ancestor that was a highwayman and some were coastguards - probably in the smuggling business with France. It really was wonderful to find out all this information. I did not describe it well. Blessings | | | |
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cynthiann (5235)
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3 years ago
| | Yes, Jones is a very Welsh name and the Welsh people were dark haired too. I think that they originally came from somewhere on the coast of France - I have forgotten so much history that I will have to look it up. I also have done some, but not a lot, of research on my husband's name. They were Portuguese Jews who left Portugal during the Spanish Inquisition and came to Jamaica. We should both make an effort to start for our children's sake. It is good for children to know their background and if our children are not interested then there are always the grandchildren as they may want the information. We develop in them a sense of pride of their heritage. Many thanks | | | |
cyrus123 (3255)
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3 years ago
| | Whoever it was who did a genealogy on mother's side of the family years ago said that there was definitely some Cherokee Indian in us. When I was a child, people told me I didn't look too much like an Indian to them and that would upset me because I was always so proud of it. Now, they tell me I do look Indian. I've been told that your facial features change the older you get so I'm sure that has a lot to do with it. I like to wear a lot of Indian stuff and I guess that makes me look more Indian, too. I don't have any children, myself, but I would still like to do a genealogy to learn more about my ancestors someday, anyway. I've been told that on my mother's side, it goes back to Thomas Jefferson! Kathy. | | | |
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8. cher913 (21926)
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3 years ago
| | my hubby is German and has had grief because of it. His dad came to Canada from Germany during the 1950's and was a year away from being in the Hitler Youth, his grandfather died during the war while he was fighting for Germany - i am not sure if he backed the Nazis or not though. | | | | | | |
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book1962 (16793)
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3 years ago
| | hi Cher and Cynthiann, my Granddad was also missing in WW II and I never had a chance to meet him. Got to wait till I am in heaven myself if I ever get there to see him........ | | | |
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9. book1962 (16793)
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3 years ago
| | Hi Cynthiann thats really an emotional overwhelming experience. Nothing like that has happened to me yet but it would sure be the case if I had the chance to visit the part of Silesia which now is in Poland and where my mother was born. I never saw that place before and would like sooooo much to be there and to see these towns my mom talks about. I was raised in all the traditions of this part of the country and I am proud of my Silesian origin. So if I had the chance to be there I would also sneak a handful of soil from the area to have it put into my own grave when I am buried. | | | | | | |
cynthiann (5235)
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3 years ago
| | That is so wonderful. It is important hat we do not forget out origins. It was such an emotional experience for me. I will never forget it. | | | |
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10. SomeCowgirl (14319)
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3 years ago
| | I am sure that was a very powerful and emotionally profound moment for you. Standing looking back at what you've learned, and even maybe FEELING the pain, the heartbreak, the disaster that came with freedom for the Irish men and women. I am of Scottish blood, but not a significant amount. | | | | | | |
cynthiann (5235)
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3 years ago
| | The Scots were very brace people and they endured so much in their history. Scotlkand was always a noted plce for learning and the Scots that emigrated usually did very well. Yes, i6 ws so emotional. People struggling to survive in a new land and then died before they could begin their lives again. | | | |
SomeCowgirl (14319)
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3 years ago
| | It is sad though to hear of it... and I am sure those that did not die were very weakened after the journey. I've read books that featured boat rides. One of them was about the titanic. The book was By Danielle Steel but I've read several so I can't remember which one it was! I know so little about Ireland and Scotland. Don't even know my fiance's heritage. | | | |
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