The six meal rule how does it work out

@suspenseful (40192)
Canada
September 29, 2009 9:38am CST
I have heard for diabetes the type 2 kind that it is best to have six meals a day rather then three and you have to have the proportions of proteins, carbs, veggies, etc. in the other meals. But you see when you have three meals, there is the breakfast, lunch, and dinner (or supper) with maybe a snack in between, But when you have six meals, is it a breakfast, mid breakfast, lunch, second lunch (or pre dinner) and then dinner, etc. I mean it takes a while to took one hamburger, to make stew or a casserole, and usually we have two main meats a day -the sandwich meat or eggs or cheese at lunch, and a main meat like chicken, beef, or pork for dinner. So how do you work out the six meal rule without cooking all day - not that I mind, I love cooking, but sometimes I cannot see me in the kitchen all day.
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@horsesrule (1957)
• United States
30 Sep 09
Ugh, yes this is something that I have to do every day of my life. This and insulin shots and pills to keep my diabetes under some sort of control. It gets to be a real pain sometimes. But about the food and eating. I try to eat smaller meals but more frequently. I have to eat when I first get up, no way to avoid that or I get to feeling really sick and sometimes crying. It's pretty awful for me and my family. So I have to eat something I call "real" right away. For instance, I can not eat cereal or pancakes because my body does not recognize those are "real" food. I must eat protein such as eggs, turkey bacon, lunch meat, beans, hot dog, just a protein of some sort, any sort. Then if I want, then I can eat cereal or one pancake but I usually don't. Maybe toast or a bagel, if we have fruit then I may have that. I am living on a very limited budget and it is very hard to eat to feed the diabetes when you have NO food budget so I do the best I can with what I have. But protein is the first and foremost thing that I MUST have, I can not fudge on that at all. After eating breakfast, I can usually last about four hours before I need to eat again. Then I eat lunch. I do try to make sure to have vegetables though I must admit that it is hard to buy them so I don't eat enough of them. I do concentrate mostly on the protein. Usually I do need a small snack in the afternoon, something with protein, lunch meat sandwich maybe. Then dinner. I have found that I must eat before I retire to my bedroom so I must eat at around 10 or 11PM. I do not go to sleep right away, instead I don't usually fall asleep until maybe 3 am and most times I need a snack then. I try to drink those Glucerna shakes for diabetics but they are very expensive and insurance won't pay for them. So it looks like I am eating tons and tons of food each day but it is in smaller amounts so it equals out to around the six meals a day pattern. I have found this to work okay for me but it is hard when I go to visit someone and spend the night with them, like my parents, because in their minds, I am eating all the time. Which actually I am but I must or I feel very ill. I don't cook all day to have my food either. I try to plan for leftovers, which I love. I also try to have things on hand that are easy to grab and eat when I need to eat something "real." Some of the healthy TV dinners are good to have on hand though I rarely get them because of the cost.
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• Canada
1 Oct 09
I know how it is. Although for the time being I am only on medication not on insulin shots I have to be very careful with my meals also. Like you I respond best in the morning if I have some protein. Usually an omlette made with liquid eggwhite. Sometimes with red peppers or mushrooms. I don't respond well to carbs. A bagel or even a slice of wholegrain toast sends my sugar up skyhigh. I usually have breakfast, then after 2 hours I have a snack of fruits and yoghurt or 1/4 cup of walnuts. At lunch I have a bowl of homemade soup. (I always have the soup pot going) with a small sandwich, tuna, poached chicken, a hardboiled egg and tea. In the afternoon I have some coffee or tea, sometimes a wholegrain muffin. Supper is a small quantity of meat, a large quantity of green vegetables, brown rice or sweet potato. Sometimes yoghurt with unsweetened apple sauce. Like you I sleep very poorly and need to eat something during the night or I feel very ill. I am also supposed to loose 10% of my body weight. So far I have not succeded even though I am in three fitness programs offered by the Diabetes Support System. This illness is the pitts and uses up all my time and leaves me drained of energy. But look on the bright side, we are still alive.
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• United States
1 Oct 09
I wish I could avoid eating at night! But there is no way possible because I get physically ill if I don't eat in the middle of the night. I have found that if I eat a high protein meal close to bedtime, then I don't always have to eat in the middle of the night but can make it until early the next morning. But that's not an all the time thing either. And the weight loss thing, my gosh, I am having terrible trouble with that! I don't walk well, I am wobbly and unsteady so exercize is almost impossible plus when I exercize I feel ill. I don't know what's up with all that but the doctor hasn't been a huge help. All they say is stop eating so much. And since I am not eating buckets of food, how is that going to happen? It's frustrating all around.
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@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
1 Oct 09
I am just borderline and trying to get rid of my borderline diabetes. The trouble is that much of the food we need costs a bit more. I cannot eat anything with too much sodium and yet it seems that I have to pick up those hot dogs and the packages of ham that cost 85 to 99 cents a lb rather then the good stuff that is 1.25 or 2.00 a lb. I have a book on how to reverse diabetes, and also a couple of Prevention books, and much of the stuff is what we cannot afford or what my husband says "you don;t need it." For instance, he says I do not need yogurt, and when I got some rye crisp once he went into a fit (although it was not that, it was the toilet paper that put us over the budget for that week.) I do have a soft boiled egg for breakfast, but I did not buy eggs this week. I would also like to buy the omega 3 eggs, but the only time I can is when i am using my own money for groceries and most of the time it is our joint account. Oh I am good at leftovers. But I have to avoid the after supper snacks, It seems them I am very hungry for carbs.
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@bmuchler (441)
• United States
30 Sep 09
I eat a bigger breakfast and then eat lots of fruits and veges for snacks. I am not diabetic, but I have insulin resistance from polycystic ovaries. I would find a lot of good recipes on www.dlife.com They have a lot of very easy ideas that really help. I usually make big portions and freeze some for a later date. Try looking for some snacks that have fruits and veges in them. You'd be surprised as to what you can find. Kraft also has recipes, I can't think of the website though.
@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
30 Sep 09
I do have problems with cysts and that could also be my problem since my doctor just said I had high blood sugar and never actually came out with the diagnosis that I had diabetes. He just gave me the pills, and since they were for diabetes, everyone assumed that. I will check out that web site. I hope they have cheap ideas as I do not want to buy anything too expensive.
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@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
1 Oct 09
No I am on glyburide. But my blood sugar did not start to go down until I added some herbal medicine so I figure I am one of those who have a natural high blood sugar.
@bmuchler (441)
• United States
30 Sep 09
Are you on Metformin? I was put on Metformin because it helps reduce the PCOS symptoms. Most of the ingredients on the website, I can get at stores like Aldi's or save a lot. I have been able to stick to a very good budget even with planning meals for the week. I also go to Farmers Markets for produce.
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@Lindalinda (4111)
• Canada
30 Sep 09
Hi suspenseful I think I have mentioned this to you before. There must be a support group or a diabetes information program in one of the health or community centres or hospitals where you live. There are registered dieticians that give excellent advice and help you design an eating plan for yourself. Here in Ontario we generally talk about 5 meals a day. They should be balanced yes, but as an example your breakfast could be an omlette made with eggwhite from the liquid eggwhite you buy in little cartons, 1/2 apple, 1/2 English muffin or one slice of toast. At 10 o'clock you could have a 1/4 cup of walnuts, or another 1/2 fruit, at noon 1 cup of homemade soup, a slice of bread (whole grain) and 1 cube of low fat cheese, 1/2 apple or orange,or 10 grape berries,or 1/2 cup of blueberries,or 1/2 cup of yoghurt or 1/2 cup jello which is made with a sugar free sweetener such as Splenda, Stevia or Xylitol. In the afternoon you could have 1 cup of coffee or plenty of herbal tea without sugar. For supper divide your plate into 4 quarters. Fill 2 quarters with a vegetable that is low on the glycemic index such as a green vegetable. Fill 1/4 with a piece of protein the size of a deck of cards, the last quarter with a carbohydrate such as brown rice, red rice, l/2 sweet potato,or one small regular potato. For protein you could also substitute the meat with beans, lentils or up to 3 eggs per week. For evening snack while watching TV prepare a plate of cucumber sticks celery sticks, carrot sticks and a small dip with nofat sour cream, no fat yoghurt or just eat them plain. Or you could have a green salad made with green leafy veggies, tomatoes, radishes, cucumbers and dressed with very little nofat dressing. I don't see where you have to cook all day. a
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• Canada
30 Sep 09
P.S. Another way to do this is to dish out your plate of food, then immediated remove 1/4 of all items, and put them on another plate in the fridg and reheat for another meal.
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@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
1 Oct 09
What I do is to use the lunch sized plate instead of a full plate or if I use a full plate put mostly salad stuff. There is a diabetic support group, but it is hard to go when I have to look after my husband and when I am on the borderline does not seem fair to me to go and see all those people who no doubt are extremely obese and not just heavy boned or have people assume that I have all those problems like no feeling in the bottom of the feet (if I step on a nail, it would hurt) are already going blind and there is no history in their family, etc.. I would buy the liquid egg white if it were cheap. I have bought rye crisp and I will have it with a little cheese in the afternoon, I try to avoid bread as much as possible. And what fruit I have depends on what is on sale or what i have frozen in the freezer. For instance, it was blueberry season and I was able to pick up around 4 lbs of blueberries and freeze them, but that was because that time I used my own money. I also have to be careful to buy stuff that will not spoil as quick because there is only two of us and my husband is not borderline diabetic. In fact he needs a lot of energy food.
@sid556 (30953)
• United States
30 Sep 09
I'm not sure if this would work for you or not. I am one who ate several "mini-meals". the reason for that is that I was always underweight and I could not eat a lot in one sitting. In order to eat the calories and hopefully gain some weight the doctor recommended that I do this. I hate a decent breakfast. Then in between lunch and breakfast I would have something like fruit, maybe a shake. Then lunch. Then left-overs from lunch....dinner....leftovers. I made huge use of the left-overs.
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@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
1 Oct 09
The reason border-line diabetics, and diabetics and those with metobolic syndrome eat six mini meals is to keep their blood sugar level and not spiking not to gain weight. I mean if you are trying to gain weight, you can eat the food that we cannot like donuts, cheesecake, high caloried stuff and that. We have to eat lots of fruits, veggies, and salads and avoid high creamy salad dressing, creamy sauces, bacon, and sausage, cakes, cookies, etc. Go for high calorie food. Then you will gain weight. For instance, with that fruit have a cookie.
@suzzy3 (8341)
2 Oct 09
I don't think they mean six full meals a day.My friends son is diabetic he had breakfast usually cereals,juice,then he takes a snack for mid morning.then he has his dinner,then he must eat somthing mid afternoon then he has his tea in the evening then a snack before bed time.there is no way he could sit and eat six full meals aday he would end up being obese.As long as he has six portions of fruit and veg a day plus 6 portions of carbs a day ect.Thats what he does anyway.
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@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
3 Oct 09
I do not think 6 meals is 6 full meals, but even if I have lets say, one sandwich for lunch consisting of whole wheat bread and roast beef, then for my snack between lunch and supper, I can have a piece of cheese. Now supposing I have turkey sausage with spinach for breakfast, and one boiled egg for the mid morning snack (not in order, mind you) and for supper I have pork stew and a salad. I have already eaten all the types of meat there is for a day. So even if you only eat mini meals or snacks, you might run out of the meat choices especially if you have to eat protein with every meal.
• New Zealand
30 Sep 09
It's these sort of diets that we should all be going by because they are actually a lot healthier. It's like we should be eating dinner at breakfast time and breakfast at dinner time for some reason i wasn't listening to the person who was telling me about it, apparently she did it for a week then got so sick of cooking in the morning so she stopped.
@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
1 Oct 09
I don't blame her. I think the ones who invent these ideas are the ones who are night hawks and just get ready to go to sleep at about ten in the morning or else they have servants and cooks to prepare the food for them. I will eat a little at breakfast, but well a bowl of porridge or some yogurt and fruit will do.
@elemental69 (1559)
• Ireland
29 Sep 09
A diabetic should never eat so many meals either big or small. You should be eating small every four hours, cutting down on carbs.
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@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
30 Sep 09
Sounds like a good idea. Unfortunately carbs are the cheapest. It costs more to eat proteins.
@dragon54u (31633)
• United States
29 Sep 09
I've tried that way of eating, it works out well for me. I make my three meals but I only eat half of each one. Sometimes, for variety, I'll put one portion in the fridge and exchange it for one I've saved from the previous day. Instead of having eggs and toast for breakfast, for example, you can eat just half and save the rest for later. Or eat the eggs and have the toast later.
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@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
30 Sep 09
I think that would work for me. I will eat eggs, but do not like toast with it. I will eat eggs with tostadas, but it is usually just one egg and I cannot see having half an egg unless it is scrambled. But the other meals, I could just halve them and put the others in the freezer and see if that will work.
@Hatley (163772)
• Garden Grove, California
29 Sep 09
hi suspenseful whenthis was suggested to me I too had a lot of problems trying to figure out how to do all this. then I found that since I was always making too big a breakfast I would still cook the same things,just have my oatmeal with milk, then mid morning have my eggs with maybe a half slice of toast, then when I fixed my lunch I would do the same thing, just halve it,eat part then eat the rest say a meat sandwich mid afternoon then at dinner I would just save a small portion of something for a bed time snack. now I am at the mercy of the kitchen here and I only get three meals a day plus snack in the evening so Ihave had to just not eat all of any high carb food, which involves just cutting back some things on my plate to maybe a fourth of what they serve, they seem to lean heavily on rice and pastas,as for rice I find any amt. seems to send my bs way too high so just dont eat it. Wish I could again fix my own meals.
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@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
30 Sep 09
That would work if I did have a big breakfast. Most of the time it is either oatmeal porridge with juice and coffee, yogurt with nuts and berries, toast and peanut butter, and the only time we have a big breakfast is maybe Saturdays or Sundays when I cannot get to church on account no one comes to look after him in the am as he is severely disabled. And then it takes quite a while to make it. I also do not want to eat the same thing twice a day. I could cut up some veggies and have them. I am like you in that I cannot have that much rice and I love pasta, and I also love sweet potatoes, but whereas I can get dry pasta and cook it, when I buy a sweet potato and store it downstairs it does not last that long. The sweet potatoes or yams as they call them here are way to big for one person and my husband does not like them that much.
• United States
29 Sep 09
It is tough to do, first you have to plan your meals for the day and if you can, prepare them the night before. That way you don't spend all your time in the kitchen cooking or preparing. Also, there are substitute meals like power bars or quick meals that you can take on the go or have ready in minutes. Preparation is the key to making it all work.
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@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
30 Sep 09
I can try that. I usually make enough for leftovers, and sometimes there is not enough for one meal, but enough for half. Then if I can make more then enough for several meals I can spread them out over time. I do not want to have the same thing too often. It is just that I do not want to go over my budget by doing so. I was able to buy a bit more because I go shopping on Monday and this Monday, I used my own money, but when I use the joint account I have to keep the budget under $80 for two.
@dlr297 (5409)
• United States
29 Sep 09
I was diagnosed 2 years ago with diabetes. What i do is eat a big breakfast, and then every 2 hours or so i have something small like a small cup of soup, or a half of a sandwich, maybe just some fruit, or just some raw vegetables, or some nuts. Usually for lunch i have some type of salad, and for dinner i cook a full meal because my husband likes a good meal then, but i only eat small portions.
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@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
30 Sep 09
I usually just have rolled oats or fruit and nuts for breakfast, and I will make a salad for lunch and for supper, pasta with some meat or chicken. I will eat a rye crisp or some fruit in between. My husband is disabled, cannot use his hands so I am feeding him as well so sometimes I do not get time for the inbetween meals.
@jheLaichie (4438)
• Philippines
29 Sep 09
my dad is a diabetic but that six mels meaning eating just proportionate amount of food. and some would be snacks. that is how he did it and that is what his doctors tell him to do. eat small breakfast, some not so heavy snacks... then same when it hits night time. what is important for diabetic persons are having small amounts of food to intake. that is how to manage their diets. well that is so far i know about my dad. jhelai
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@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
30 Sep 09
I can try that. It might make it easier for me, since I do a lot of snacking, and if they are fruits and veggies, it would work out well.