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myLot reputation of 98/100. maximax8 (10284)   ranked 39 out of 35,013 in people2 months ago

A lady got married and had three children. She became bored with her husband and had an affair. She was devastated when she got pregnant. She told her husband and he demanded that she had an abortion. He had explained if she wanted a baby he could get her pregnant in the future. The lady felt scared of losing her husband so she had her baby aborted.

What do you think of the people's actions in this true story?
Was it fair on the baby that he or she was aborted?
Do you know of any wife or husband that has said something nasty?

 
 
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miamilady (2495) response was accepted on 10/6/2009.
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tags:  abortion, lady, man, children, baby
 
1. myLot reputation of 73/100. vonmac (1247)   ranked 6,720 out of 35,013 in people   2 months ago

Well I think I can understand where the guy was coming from, and the thought of bringing up another mans child, especially a child conceived through infidelity of the woman would be a bit of a sore point for many men
If she was scared of losing her husband perhaps she should have kept her legs closed and not handed it on a plate to someone else when she became bored
The moment she cheated this situation was always possible.
I think the lady was wrong for cheating
I think the guy was wrong for staying with her
I think he was well within his rights to ask her to abort the baby
I think she would have had no right to expect him to bring up a child which was the result of her cheating
I dont think he was nasty, I think she was nasty,
Obviously she didnt want to get pregnant by the other guy, did she.


myLot reputation of 91/100. phoenix1344 (356)   ranked 6,821 out of 35,013 in people  2 months ago

I completely agree with you! Everything you said here is true. It's the lady's fault for putting herself in that situation and the guy was totally in the right. Im surprised he was willing to still be with her.


myLot reputation of 73/100. vonmac (1247)   ranked 6,720 out of 35,013 in people  2 months ago

I was surprised that he still wanted to be with her as well.
But as he did want to be with her, and she was scared of losing him, then he held all the cards and lets face it, who could blame him for not wanting a living reminder of his wifes infidelity, that would be hard for any man to live with
There marriage would have no chance of surviving, and every time there was a row the baby would have been like ammunition, for both of them in a way
Bad enough living with a cheat, never mind a baby fathered by the person she turned to when she got bored!!!


myLot reputation of 98/100. maximax8 (10284)   ranked 39 out of 35,013 in people  2 months ago

In my opinion the lady did two things very wrong: have an affair when she was married and abort her innocent baby. Thanks for your superb response.


myLot reputation of 73/100. vonmac (1247)   ranked 6,720 out of 35,013 in people  2 months ago

Of course, if she hadnt had the affair, or at least taken precautions to ensure she didnt get pregnant then she might have been able to carry on relieving the boredom in the manner she was doing
So, for all concerned the moral of the story is
Put the rubber coat on, even when its not raining.


myLot reputation of 82/100. NurseMathilda (175)   ranked 17,379 out of 35,013 in people  1 month ago

I love that quote vonmac! Morally, it is very wrong. And it's totally not acceptable in our society especially if a women gets pregrant from another man. Don't try to correct the mistake with another. I never heard of the same situation here in our country though. Yeah, the girl is lucky that her husband didn't notice it and was clueless about the affair her wife made.

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2. rachaelspires (39)   ranked 13,786 out of 35,013 in people   2 months ago

She was in the wrong for cheating on her husband but personally I think the choice to have the baby should have been up to her. If he loved her enough to forgive her for her indiscretions surely he can forgive her to want to have that child. I do know of a friend that was put in sort of the same position, they had been together for 3 years and had taken a break for 6 months or so. He visited her for christmas and found out that she was pregnant to another man she had been seeing. No one knew she was pregnant just a couple of her closest friends but he threatened her that he would tell everyone and bring shame onto her family if she did not go back to him.

She packed up her life and moved 12 hours away to be with him and he demanded that she have an abortion, which she did. In the end she ended up hating him so much that she did not care about her life anymore and losing that baby had sent her into a downward spiral. That was almost 2 years ago and she is a different person now - like there is no soul in her body.


myLot reputation of 84/100. wmraul (574)   ranked 1,196 out of 35,013 in people  2 months ago

And this mean that the guy is responsible and guilty?

Is him to be blame because SHE was a butterfly going from flower to flower?

However, you pointed out very clear: SHE decided to COVER the lie and shame .. liars and cheaters end like this. I have no simpathy for her. Yet in this particual case I also don't have anything good for him too. He should have know that;love by force is not possible and that a blackmail will end up bad for one of them or even both ..


rachaelspires (39)   ranked 13,786 out of 35,013 in people  2 months ago

I agree with you. It's a shame how some people end up though. I would like to think that in situations like this that the people involved learn their lesson. For life is too short to have it filled with secrets and lies. I would rather laughter and love.


myLot reputation of 84/100. wmraul (574)   ranked 1,196 out of 35,013 in people  2 months ago

Unfortunately some (50% of them?) never learn .. sadangry


myLot reputation of 98/100. maximax8 (10284)   ranked 39 out of 35,013 in people  2 months ago

Hello Rachael. Yes, I think the lady in my discussion was wrong for having the affair. The bay was an innocent one that got aborted because he or she's father was the lady's lover and not her husband.

Thanks for telling me about your friend that got pregnant in a relationship she had when she was on the rebound after her three year relationship. I think that she regretted getting back with her ex-boyfriend and perhaps she wished she hadn't had the abortion.

Thanks for your excellent response. happyhappy

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3. myLot reputation of 85/100. artistry (451)   ranked 3,433 out of 35,013 in people   2 months ago

...Hi maxiax8, I would assume that the woman knew who the father of the child was, if so, them would not the father of the child have rights as to whether to abort the fetus or not. This would be his child, not her husbands and how could another man have a right to decide that someone else's potential child should not be born. I also don't know if there is a law governing such a case. This is problematic to me. Now, if the real father does not know that the woman is pregnant, then there is nothing he can do about it. This is, I think a clear case for the need for individuals to use birth control and not be so irresponsible. Second observation, if the husband now goes out and cheats, what can the wife say, in addition, if the husband gets another woman pregnant, if he does cheat, do you think he will ask the woman to get an abortion, no, I think not, it will be his child and he will more than likely want the baby to be born. Take care.


myLot reputation of 84/100. wmraul (574)   ranked 1,196 out of 35,013 in people  2 months ago

Please, no offense .. can you read now what you writed as if was not you who writed and still agree?

Because to me seems at least a nonsense .. the lover is the one who have the right to decide for or against abortion while the child will belong (legal, time invested, money, education, love and care) to ... legal husband?
If you say yes, please would you be so kind to take 7 of the 12 puppies my female dog have with your male dog and please raise them until they die ..

Technicaly is the same as what you writed above ..


myLot reputation of 85/100. artistry (451)   ranked 3,433 out of 35,013 in people  2 months ago

...wmraul, the child, if the father of the child is the woman's lover, would go to the biological father, if he didn't want the woman to have an abortion. Why would I expect the husband to raise the child, if he didn't want it to be born in the first place, please. He didn't want it, why would he raise it. No offense, but ask me if you don't understand my premise. And no, you keep your dogs.:o). I like cats.


myLot reputation of 84/100. wmraul (574)   ranked 1,196 out of 35,013 in people  2 months ago

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myLot reputation of 98/100. maximax8 (10284)   ranked 39 out of 35,013 in people  2 months ago

Hi there Artistry. Thanks for your very interesting response. Sometimes birth control can fail and it is does it can mean a lady gets pregnant when she didn't intend to. The lady had the choice of what she did with the baby she got pregnant with and she knew her lover was the father.

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4. myLot reputation of 84/100. wmraul (574)   ranked 1,196 out of 35,013 in people   2 months ago

Both are guilty.
But SHE is to be blamed. He showed he really love her, respect her and didn't forget what he promissed to her on wedding day ...
She is a b1tch and maybe she will understand the real meaning of the words "sacrifice" ... "commitment" ..


myLot reputation of 98/100. maximax8 (10284)   ranked 39 out of 35,013 in people  2 months ago

The lady was wrong and the man acted in response to her wrong doings. But was it really right for her innocent baby?

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5. myLot reputation of 98/100. mipen2006 (2414)   ranked 1,477 out of 35,013 in people   2 months ago

This is an example of a very sad situation, where both the adult players have only thought of themselves at different times. In my opinion, the woman should have had the baby, and then both could have decided its future. Keep, or put up for adoption. If they both had hearts, they would welcome it into their family.


myLot reputation of 91/100. phoenix1344 (356)   ranked 6,821 out of 35,013 in people  2 months ago

If they both had hearts?? The poor guy just had his ripped out of him and then to make it worse shes pregnant? If she really wanted the child she could face the consequences of her actions and leave her husband. But he should in no way be expected to 'accept' this baby into his own life. He was not wrong at all only the woman was.


myLot reputation of 84/100. wmraul (574)   ranked 1,196 out of 35,013 in people  2 months ago

@ phoenix

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myLot reputation of 98/100. mipen2006 (2414)   ranked 1,477 out of 35,013 in people  2 months ago

If she left him, for her mistake, where would that leave her other childrem?


myLot reputation of 84/100. wmraul (574)   ranked 1,196 out of 35,013 in people  2 months ago

She left him .. who? Husband?

lol

Isn't obviously that once she got pregnant, the lover vanish? So that she had to try to see if her husband would ... shoot her or dump her or forgive her ... She got a forgive-like husband who loved her enough to forgive, yet THAT child would have been a poisoning item in them future life as a couple ..


myLot reputation of 98/100. maximax8 (10284)   ranked 39 out of 35,013 in people  2 months ago

Hi my friend Mipen. I really think your excellent suggestion that the lady should kept the baby and then adopted him or her if they had thought it didn't feel right. Sometimes a pregnancy might be scary but to see a gorgeous new born baby is lovely.
happyhappyhappy


myLot reputation of 98/100. mipen2006 (2414)   ranked 1,477 out of 35,013 in people  2 months ago

Hi max, others are not in agreement with us, but I huess what really matters is where your heart lies in this matter, and for me it is with the unborn child. I think if I could deal with that situation, and the father of the family, then other members should be able to also. Mike.


myLot reputation of 98/100. maximax8 (10284)   ranked 39 out of 35,013 in people  2 months ago

Hi my friend Mike. Yes, the idea that other family members might help is a wonderful idea. Yes, quite a few people do not think that baby is an innocent one. Maxine.

 
6. myLot reputation of 92/100. ayenacsi (709)   ranked 10,780 out of 35,013 in people   2 months ago

It is just as you said, the things people do. In this situation, there is a victim and sadly a baby had to be aborted because of men and women who are only human and make terrible mistakes. The world will never stop of hearing this kind of stories and it is such a sad state.

And I wouldn't want to know anyone who would do such a thing. There are many options or choices they could have made and done, and sadly a life was lost because of wrong choices.


myLot reputation of 84/100. wmraul (574)   ranked 1,196 out of 35,013 in people  2 months ago

Jeez .. what life had lost?

NONE of the 3 involved didn't want a child, yet 2 of them proved to be STUPID - the lover and the adulter woman.

Big hurray and a pint of beer from me for the husband he accepted her back, but in no way he to be agree with having to raise up a child made by someone elses DNA .. nor to stand next to his wife and not enjoy her presence because she is pregnant and need lot of stuff and medicine and can't go in a vacation together .. nor be a "wife" in bed for him .. Why would he suffer for her stupidity? Enough and to much he forgive her ...

And trust me, there was no "life lost" in this story. A life is lost if someone DIE. An embrio is not a life form. MAY become, but is not yet.

Or much simple I tell you this: You ask for dinner for a beef steak with fried potatoes and salad. I will bring you this: A cow, a knife, some potatoes, a fry pan, some vegetavle stright from the garden, a bit of coocking oil. There is your steak with fried potatoes and salad.
Oh, yes .. is not YET .. maybe will be .. could become, maybe .. but not yet.
NOT YET== IS NOT.

Period.


myLot reputation of 98/100. maximax8 (10284)   ranked 39 out of 35,013 in people  2 months ago

Hi there Ayenacsi. Yes, I also think of the baby as being the innocent victim in all of this. One of my friends thinks a baby chooses his or her parents. I think adoption or fostering is much better than abortion. Abortion is wrong and so is having an affair. Thanks for your wonderful response.

happyhappy


myLot reputation of 92/100. ayenacsi (709)   ranked 10,780 out of 35,013 in people  1 month ago

Hello raul! We all have our opinions on that and I respect your opinion and understand what you want to say and that is your opinion. happy

 
7. myLot reputation of 68/100. miamilady (2495)   ranked 3,335 out of 35,013 in people   2 months ago

"What do you think of the people's actions in this true story?"

I think that people are human and sometimes make mistakes. I think that life is a lot more complicated than something that can be summed up in one paragraph.
I feel bad for all of them. They are ended up in a very difficult situation.
Although I am pro-choice, I think it's sad that a baby was conceived and that difficult decision had to be made. I can understand why the husband wouldn't want to raise another man's baby. I can understand why, if the wife chose to stay, agreed to having the abortion. I just hope they can get past the pain and forgive eachother and move forward IF that is what they choose to do.

"Was it fair on the baby that he or she was aborted?"

Fair? Probably not. But I don't believe that fetuses are necessarily "babies".
Sometimes life isn't fair. Sometimes people have to make very difficult decisions.
It's not for me or anyone to judge another person.

"Do you know of any wife or husband that has said something nasty?"

I'm not sure if that was what you meant to ask. I know LOTS of husbands and wives who say nasty things. I think it's fairly common where I live. I think that's part of the problem with marriages these days. People forget that a very important part of being in relationship is mutual respect. If two people can't treat eachother with respect, things will start to fall apart.


myLot reputation of 84/100. wmraul (574)   ranked 1,196 out of 35,013 in people  2 months ago

I think this is the most ellegant ballanced answer this disscusion can get.

Banzai, miamilady! thumbup


myLot reputation of 98/100. maximax8 (10284)   ranked 39 out of 35,013 in people  2 months ago

I have given you the best response Miami Lady. Many thanks for your comprehensive and excellent response. I also hope that the couple will get past all that pain. It will be great if neither of them make anymore serious mistakes. I don't like to judge but discussing is valuable.

happyhappyhappy


myLot reputation of 71/100. Bradpete (614)   ranked 11,408 out of 35,013 in people  2 months ago

She deserved it! Have a great day!

 
8. winiepu (31)   ranked 30,635 out of 35,013 in people   2 months ago

I can't imagin her husband could stand his wife's behavior. I think this is the worst outcome. Killing a baby, at the same time their relationship would be covered by the negative feeling forever. It is so bad.


myLot reputation of 98/100. maximax8 (10284)   ranked 39 out of 35,013 in people  2 months ago

Thanks for your wonderful response. I also think that the worst outcome is the abortion which killed the innocent baby.

 
9. myLot reputation of 91/100. irene3184 (670)   ranked 8,768 out of 35,013 in people   2 months ago

I think the wife has no right to get aborted or kill the baby in her womb. She should suffer for her consequence not the baby. The story tells us that we must think a million times before entering into the marriage life if we are really responsible enough as a married couple and have the persistent of the commitment of marriage until death do us part.


myLot reputation of 98/100. maximax8 (10284)   ranked 39 out of 35,013 in people  2 months ago

Hi Irene. Thanks for your excellent response. I feel so sorry for the innocent baby. What you say about commitment and marriage is very true.

happyhappy

 
10. myLot reputation of 81/100. Archie0 (3141)   ranked 3,936 out of 35,013 in people   2 months ago

Hello maximax, well forget about the baby but how couldnt the husband feel anything.I wonder why he wasnt in red angry face when he heard that his wife slept on someone elses bedw00t, and about the baby it is really sad they she being mother of 3 children she still had the heart to abort the baby.
I feel bad when people find betrayal of trust and feelings so easy and casual, for me marriage is something which is pure feeling and its the last man on earth whom i can love and call as mine. Other than my son for me.


myLot reputation of 98/100. maximax8 (10284)   ranked 39 out of 35,013 in people  2 months ago

Hi Archie. I imagine that the husband was very angry when he heard his wife admit she had been having an affair with another man. He must have felt even more devastated when she found out she was pregnant with her lovers baby. I have three children and I wouldn't ever have an abortion.

 
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