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myLot reputation of 93/100. brothertuck (1047)   ranked 353 out of 6,339 in politics1 month ago

You know, I was just wondering....

Why is it that if you cross the North Korean border illegally you get thrown into prison and get 12 years of hard labor?

Why is it if you cross the Iranian border while out supposedly leisurely hiking in the hills, you get arrested and imprisoned?

But why is it that if you cross the U.S. border illegally, you get a drivers license, a Social Security card, free health care and free education?

Whose bright idea was this?

I'm just curious.

 
 
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vonmac (1754) response was accepted on 10/27/2009.
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1. myLot reputation of 72/100. irishidid (3030)   ranked 1,301 out of 6,339 in politics   1 month ago

It's made too easy and comfortable for them, that's for sure. When I was growing up it was common knowledge that to enter this country you had to bring something worthwhile. A talent, education, etc. Now all you have to do to burrow under a fence.

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2. myLot reputation of 78/100. vonmac (1754)   ranked 905 out of 6,339 in politics   1 month ago

Wow, you mean if I was a Mexican peasant, I could get into America illegally and they would welcome me with open arms and give me all the benefits that and luxuries very many Americans struggle to pay for. Free health care and a free education sounds great to me, amigo, hombre,

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3. myLot reputation of 44/100. murderistic (1038)   ranked 901 out of 6,339 in politics   1 month ago

First of all, the majority of illegal immigrants do NOT get a social security card or free health care. Those who have found a way to bypass the system like that are few and far between. Secondly, the reason why the government tolerates so many illegals is because they work for cheap and boost the economy in general. Most of them only stay for a few years until they saved up enough money to support their family and then they leave.

This is a country founded on "illegal" immigration. If you don't like illegal immigration, why don't you get out of the country and give the land back to the natives. It's so easy to think of land as property... given to whoever had the most money or power. To me, it's so much more than that. It all belongs to God and we are merely stewards of it. If illegal immigrants are peaceful and just trying to support their families, I have no problem with them living here.


myLot reputation of 93/100. brothertuck (1047)   ranked 353 out of 6,339 in politics  1 month ago

In the history of the United States only one treaty was honored by both sides. William Penn and the native Americans who lived in the area. My family came over as part of the group that arrived with William Penn. We were the only truly legal immigrants.

Second, there are laws, the laws used to be made for a reason, now a days I'm not so sure about that. I am not advocating actions such as the ones I posted in the original post, but I do feel that those that come into the country do follow the laws. There are many who went through the process and have gone on to become legal citizens of the United States. Many of them have more respect, and patriotism then those born here. One I admire for his journey and has inspired a regrowth in my patriotic sense is Craig Ferguson. If they say let me do it legally then bring them in.

Third, this was a bit of dark humor. It is based on a lot of the problems that are occurring these days, and may just be a political cause and not a real cause, but to people I know in Texas, Arizona, and New Mexico, it is something they have to deal with, and it is based on facts, whether it is the norm or just isolated cases.


myLot reputation of 44/100. murderistic (1038)   ranked 901 out of 6,339 in politics  1 month ago

I should hope not, I wouldn't want our government to start imitating laws of countries that are deemed as being part of the "axis of evil" (although I highly disagree with that label). The reason why illegal immigration is so prevalent is because it is so very hard to obtain legal status. One's choices are to either wait for years if not forever to win the green card lottery, go to college in the US and leave immediately after, find a work sponsor (which is very difficult for people who don't have prestigious specialized degrees), or get married to a US citizen. Many illegal immigrants don't have plans to stay in the US indefinitely, they're only here to save up money that they plan on bringing home. If we made it easier for workers to obtain work visas, they would start paying income taxes for the social services they may or may not be receiving and making minimum wage (which means they won't have to stay here as long and they won't be as large of a competition to legal workers). The problem here is policy, not the illegals themselves.


myLot reputation of 44/100. murderistic (1038)   ranked 901 out of 6,339 in politics  1 month ago

Here's a scenario for you (and a true one). I have a friend that came here on a student visa from Morocco to get married to a Moroccan man living in the US. He told her that after they got married, he would be able to go through the immigration system to get her permanent residency status. Well, it turns out that he was wrong, and they didn't succeed in that venture. She didn't find this out until after she had his baby, who is a US citizen now. If she were to leave him and return to Morocco, under Moroccan law he could take the baby from her and come back to the US, which is where he wants to live. She's left not being able to find a credible job despite the fact that she was an English teacher in Morocco. She's now working for less than minimum wage at a convenience store. There is no possible route for her to take to obtain legal status without risking the loss of her child. Now, tell me, shouldn't there be an easier way for women like her?

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4. myLot reputation of 53/100. bestboy19 (1358)   ranked 620 out of 6,339 in politics   1 month ago

You get those things when you cross the U.S. border, because the Democrats want to make you citizens so you'll vote for them. The law means nothing to the Democrats if it gets in the way of keeping them in power. The more poor, uneducated, and needy they can get to vote for them, the better, even if they have to do it illegally.

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