Accepting Stolen Goods Is Suppose To Be A Crime

@gewcew23 (8007)
United States
October 18, 2009 4:25pm CST
Taxation is theft, there is not two ways you can look at it. Taken some one's property without their consent is theft. I do not approve of government confiscating my wealth which is my property with out my consent, so income tax is theft. So if you receive government services, are you not receiving stolen goods?
6 responses
@ra1787 (501)
• Italy
19 Oct 09
Without taxation there would be anarchy. No funds for police, firefighters, roads, streetlights, welfare, safety controls in industries, public transport etc.. Taxation is not the best thing in the world but it is surely better than the alternative. Choose the lesser evil! I also believe that since public services are potentially available to everyone, you pay for the chance to use them, wheter you use them or not, so it is a sort of forced transation but that is not theft. You would really like to live without any kind of free public service? You would reallty prefer to have to pay the police if they have to find your stolen car? Or the fightfighters if they have to take you out of flaming house? Or some local militia to defend you if some other country decides to conquer your land?
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@gewcew23 (8007)
• United States
19 Oct 09
Evil is still evil, I would not mind trying anarchy.
@spalladino (17891)
• United States
19 Oct 09
You'd be screaming the loudest if you needed a police officer or firefighter and there were none.
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@Kowgirl (3489)
• United States
19 Oct 09
ra1787 you are so funny....The jobs you speak about are NOT paid by any federal taxes. They are paid by the state which comes from the tax on money spent in your state. I think the federal tax is what we are talking about here..
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@spalladino (17891)
• United States
18 Oct 09
Would you like to tell that to my husband who is a disabled Viet Nam vet? Nice theory about income tax being theft but you fill out a form when you start a new job giving your consent to pay taxes.
@Kowgirl (3489)
• United States
19 Oct 09
If you read the book about taxes it says it is VOLUNTARY. You do NOT have to pay an income tax. You volenteer to pay when you fill out the w 2 forms and allow the place of your employment to take out this tax. There is also a place on the form where you can put "exempt" this way the company can not take out the tax. You will still have to pay other tax, like Social Security and/or a state tax. The IRS is not a part of our government but a collection agency for the Federal Reserve Banks.
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@spalladino (17891)
• United States
19 Oct 09
There are certain criteria that you have to meet in order to be exempt from paying federal income tax. I don't know all of them off the top of my head but one that I remember is if you will be earning less than a set amount that year. Otherwise, yes, you are required by law to have federal income tax deducted from your pay and your employer is also required by law to take it out. I used to work with someone who believed that you didn't have to pay taxes. Followed some guy who wrote a book and had a website with all this proof of folks who had gotten over on the IRS. He claimed 10 exemptions on his W-2...the max he was allowed...and followed this guy's instructions when it came to filing. After the IRS caught up with him his wages were garnished so, yes, you do have to pay.
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@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
20 Oct 09
Only cause they got the power to enforce it. And before you get mad...I'd glad allow a deduction for supporting the disabled and veterans, spalladino.
@manong05 (5027)
• Philippines
19 Oct 09
It is the duty of each citizen, I believe to pay income tax. That's why our payslips have lots of deductions. Some are done annually like in my place. It pays for the basic services including street lighting, road maintenance and even firefighters and police services. I wouldn't want my kids to walk on dark streets, neither will I drive my car in a street full of holes. I don't agree that it is a form of theft. Though, where I am, there are taxes that are plain highway robbery like road users tax, too much value added tax etc. but as to income tax, I am happy to pay. enjoy!
@Kowgirl (3489)
• United States
19 Oct 09
Gewcew23 you are right it is theft if they forced us to pay this tax but we have a choice. Says so right there in the tax book as well as on the w2 forms we fill out to work for any business. The tax was meant to be paid by businesses and then only if they were in profit. It was to support the war. It was never meant to be from wages earned from an honest days work. The worst part is none of this tax goes to our government but to the owners of the Federal Reserve Banks which is not a part of our government. Our president has to borrow money from the Federal Reserve Banks to run this country then pay it back with interest, otherwise we wouldn't have a deficit... NO the people who receive government services are NOT getting the service with stolen money, nor receiving stolen goods, they receive services paid for from borrowed money. Those who pay this tax had to agree to give it to the privately owned Federal Reserve Banks, they volunteered to give away a percentage of their wages, otherwise it would be illegal for them to take it.
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@spalladino (17891)
• United States
19 Oct 09
The Federal Reserve is entity within our government and is not owned by any individual or group. The IRS is also a government entity.
@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
24 Oct 09
@spalladino: http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=10489
@stephcjh (38473)
• United States
19 Oct 09
I guess you could look at it that way. I think it is ridiculous that we get taxed on so many things that we own. They want a piece of everything you have and if you have a pennt, they want half of it.
@amybrezik (2118)
• United States
18 Oct 09
That is an interesting point of view. I'm not a fan of income tax either, but I had never viewed it from that perpective.
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@gewcew23 (8007)
• United States
19 Oct 09
Well that is why I am here.