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How would the world be if Cristobal Columbus didn't discover America? email this discussion to a friend?

juliancj83 (32)   ranked 2,318 out of 3,975 in thinker2 months ago

I've always thought about it. Europeans came to America and commited the biggest genocide in human history, killing the natives almost to their total extinction. So how do you think the world would be?

 
 
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tags:  america, world, discover, history, american natives
 
1. sandyck (39)   2 months ago

there will be no Microsoft, Mac, Coca Cola....and MyLot. LOL.

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2. myLot reputation of 89/100. loudcry (487)   ranked 36 out of 3,975 in thinker   2 months ago

For one, a lot of red Indians would be alive. It is said than America is a country built on the genocide of one race and the slavery of another.
This being said, it is a nation which has many virtue and has also redeemed itself time and time again. Today it has come to become a land of dreams for many immigrants. With the election of Obama it has redeemed itself .
It hard to say what would have happened if columbus had not discovered America. But here's one of the scenarios. Europeans who came to America often left europe pecause of repressive societies back home. They were fiercly freedom loving and this quality can be seen in Americans even today. They have created one the most succesful democracies in the world with strong democratic institutions. The country has greatly infuenced liberal thoughts the world.
In my opinion, the bloody and gory history notwithstanding, I think its good to have America, as we know it, around.


myLot reputation of 89/100. loudcry (487)   ranked 36 out of 3,975 in thinker  2 months ago

Hey, just read the post below. It was Amerigo Vespuci who discovered america! Completely slipped my mind.

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3. myLot reputation of 85/100. wmraul (581)   ranked 515 out of 3,975 in thinker   2 months ago

Technicaly, Columbus didn't discover America.

First of all because he landed on somewhere today's Cuba islands .. Second, Amerigo Vesspucci was first ..

Else, extermination of local populations is an equal "feature" of portugese, spaniards, british and french, all together masivelly helped later by imigrants from all over Europe, people who mostly were uneducated and poor looking for a new start, people wanted by law enforcements on their countries and adventurers seeking for new entertainment.

Yet not all of them are to be blamed for the massacres, majority were not quite active in this direction and often disinformed about real facts ...

However, I don't think is a good idea to judge todays generations for what them ancestors done .. And should not forget that all started in south-Americas where RELIGION is to be blamed for estinction of the local populations ..


myLot reputation of 89/100. loudcry (487)   ranked 36 out of 3,975 in thinker  2 months ago

Its a good point you have raised here. Present generations should not be blamed for their ancesters deeds. But the history should not be forgotten. And RELIGION, yes responsible for many a masseares.


juliancj83 (32)   ranked 2,318 out of 3,975 in thinker  2 months ago

well, If you want to be specific neither Amerigo Vesspucci was first, thousands of years ago some human primitive tribes cross from the north of asia and Europe to America in winter when the ice was strong to walk over (remember that the cradle of human race is Africa and from there it spread throughout the world) they just didn't document it.
I said Columbus after he came the rest of europeans started to come, so that's why some people say he was the first, Amerigo came after columbus and was the first making the map of America that's why the continent has his name. Also take into account that Cuba is part of America, America is divided in 3 parts but it's still the same continent. The fact that people born in the US are called americans as their nationality doesn't mean that the rest of the countries in Central and South America are a different continent. About who to blame, it was my mistake, sorry I didn't mean to generalize, I'm not judging europeans neither actual generations, I was just writing something for you guys write about,and it worked, hehe, I should have expressed it in a different way.

Thanks a lot to all for your comments.

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4. myLot reputation of 97/100. deebomb (8998)   ranked 3,398 out of 3,975 in thinker   2 months ago

First of all I wouldn't blame Columbus for the demise of those Indians or other natives. The Aztecs were also killing may of the more docile natives. If Columbus hadn't sailed for America looking for a shorter route to the the spice Islands then some one else would have. From the beginning of time people have moved into their neighbors territory wanting to expand. It happened in Aferica, Rome in the northern Europe the mongels in the far east and so one. It was the natural progression of groups of people. There are many tribes even in Europe that were driven to extentions such as the Visigoths,vandals, Ostrogoths.
AS time went by one tribe would become strong and would wipe out their neighbors. So those tribe would more than likely be wiped out any way.

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5. myLot reputation of 93/100. dlr297 (2794)   ranked 679 out of 3,975 in thinker   2 months ago

If Columbus would not have discovered America, then someone else would have. And their are still many tribes of American Indians around.

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6. myLot reputation of 94/100. cobrateacher (4223)   ranked 4 out of 3,975 in thinker   2 months ago

It's very likely somebody else would have...

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7. myLot reputation of 73/100. bird123 (1166)   ranked 724 out of 3,975 in thinker   2 months ago

What if's should never be considered. Things happen for many unseen reasons. European technology with the industrial revolution was far advanced than indians. Brains always seems to win. Let's think of consequences. If America never existed, Hitler would be ruling the world now. What do you think he would do with the Indians? Probably comes out the same. All people are never lost in any war. There are lots of Indians living today. Perhaps America needs them more now than ever to teach us how to live without destroying the environment. After all, Indians were one with the land.

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