Why all the lies about NY 23rd not having a Democrat since the Civil War?  

Yeah, I really don't get what this lie accomplished for anyone besides bogus bragging rights for the left. In all fairness to Fox News, it was on that network that I first heard this was a lie.

It wasn't on a news show though, it was on Red Eye. I wasn't really shocked when I heard it so I went to verify the claims of many democrats representing the NY 23rd and found many blogs covering it, with all the major news media continuing to propagate the lie. I think since the Civil war there have actually been more democrats than republicans representing the district, but I only verified the most recent democrats for the purpose of this thread.

Ah, yes. Bragging. What Democrats do best--second only to lying. That was the only thing I could figure, myself. Is Fox now going to start setting the record straight? If not, perhaps we should put a bug in their ear about it?

Maggiepie
IMPEACH THE IMPOSTER!

Well, but the thing is, that's just why it surprises me that Fox didn't do their homework, as it's really what they do as a rule! It's why they have--in a cable venue!--ratings that rival broadcast news; people can almost always trust them to check facts! It's not the first time they haven't, but overall they do really strive to tell the truth, even if it makes us uncomfortable.

I guess it was just such a normal-sounding, plausible lie they didn't guess that the Left would have to lie about it. Those are the most heinous kinds of lies, the blatant ones cloaked in plausibility.

One must learn: The Left cannot be trusted. Ever. If you doubt that, go read their "bible:" Saul Alinsky's "Rules For Radicals." After you do, then you can begin to grasp how evil & cynical these people really are, & why America is in such profound trouble.

Maggiepie
IMPEACH THE IMPOSTER!

I understand what you're saying, they are always redistricting and districts grow and shrink based on population, but even taking that into consideration, there are two issues.

First, the media repeatedly said "NY 23rd", making their statements wholly inaccurate.

Second if they were too lazy to properly research as far back as 1993 which was the last year the NY 23rd was represented by a Democrat, I find it highly unlikely that they researched the last 150 years of redistricting to see if that part of New York, under any numbered district had a democrat.

Do you know of any resource that shows where all the district lines have been over the last 150 years because I'm a librarian, and worked almost a year in research and I can tell you that finding information like that is long, tedious, and requires not only a library with extensive resources, but experienced researchers willing to spend their time combing through districting maps to determine which district a specific part of New York was in during each congress, then cross-referencing that with the house member representing each different district that included that area, and THEN determining the official political party of the representative for each numbered district each time it applied to the section of New York in question.

Do YOU believe that Obama, Pelosi, or any of the incompetent media really went through all that? I've done some horrendous research for the most inane garbage from as far back as the 1800s and I can tell you they couldn't pay me enough to go through all that crap. And if they really cared enough to go through all that, why didn't they care enough to make accurate statements regarding who represented the district known as the NY 23rd?

Thank you, Valentinesdiner, for the clarification! But I guarantee you that neither Taskr nor his cronies will heed to your clarification.

If you'd like to argue which district the "area" was when, could you provide the district numbers that previously included this area and which years they applied to? If not, you're just guessing or believing what the dishonest media has told you.

And I know that some people will believe that crap to their dying day because they heard it on the news and they don't like Limbaugh anyway.

I still have this one guy who swears that Cheney made a fortune aver Halliburton after he became vice president and they got the war contracts.

Well the statement itself is a lie. Not everyone who repeated it was lying if they didn't know the truth. The media has repeatedly proven that they're too lazy to research lies like this before reporting them as facts as with the bogus Limbaugh quotes to make him look racist. News agencies have even been guilty of using Wikipedia as a source.

Basically the media outlets are either lying, or spreading lies because they're too lazy to do their jobs. The only question is: who was the first to report these lies as facts?

Please refer to my earlier note taht it is not a LIE - that the Northcountry is solidly republican till it voted for Owens, but that the 23rd district has moved around with redistricting.

McHugh hsd the district as long as he wanted it, as Bob McEwen before him and all the Republicans before him.

I read his post, but even his statement is speculation unless he thoroughly research the drawing of congressional lines over the last 150 years. Even if he's right, that doesn't change the fact that the media consistently said "NY 23rd" not "this specific part of the NY 23rd". Of course you're just here to troll the thread so I'm wasting my time telling you this.

Not wasting MY time, Taskr.

However you parse it, a Democrat winning here is RARE. The district was one of the few that went with Bush I and II - even went with Goldwater years before that.

It IS a story, until 2010 when Owens goes for re-election and the district is not so flooded with ads.

Nice job rating me down Netsbridge. Clearly you have nothing better to do that stalk my posts rating negative to lower my star. Fortunately, I don't care. I'm not going to be intimidated by a vindictive moron like yourself.

Please be assured I did not give any negatives to you on Netsbridge or anything else for that matter.

I needed to correct a misunderstanding about my Congressional district and my correction was being called into question - - by you - - in a later part of the discussion.

Be assured I am not "a vindictive moron" and would not snipe at someone (especially underhandedly - that is really moronic) especially over something as inconsequential as a mylot posting.

You appear to be a bright person who was just getting half the story on a news story. I happen to be a relatively bright person who was supplying a correction and followup.

I am glad to correct any misunderstanding you have on what I did or did not do. Enjoy the day, Taskr.