Political Correctness...has it gone too far?

United States
November 17, 2009 10:47pm CST
Political correctness...it's at a point where we're expected to censor every single word or phrase, that comes out of our mouths so as to offend no one! I don't know what to call whom any more! I am way tired of trying to be forever politically correct. People even lose their jobs over very innocent remarks with no hidden meanings. What is your take? Has the concept and practice of "political correctness" gone too far in its efforts not to offend or stereo-type anyone? Examples are welcomed. Karen
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@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
18 Nov 09
It has gone way to far. When you can't be critical of government without being called racist, way to far. To me, Political Correctness is just a way to hinder free speech.
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@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
18 Nov 09
Morning Debs sweetie, did you join in Teddy's bowing to the emperor of China discussion yet from yesterday - he hid his agenda there in the political correctness of using words like sweetie. We agree on this one of course as it has all gone way too far and don't get alarmed if the rabbit and I keep calling each other sweetie from now on but it's usually a term of endearment between all sexes rather than a politically incorrect nasty.
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• United States
18 Nov 09
I often wonder where the term "political correctness" originated, since it goes way beyond the mores of politics. But yes, everything these days, innocent or not, true or not, seems to be suspect based on the almighty political correctness of it, or the lack thereof! I give up lol, hence, I no longer will try to keep up with the latest trends in what defines politically correct. I will be normal, natural, and respectful, and that shall have to do lol. Karen
@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
18 Nov 09
NO, did not find it. But I did find the one where he was attacked by tdmex.
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• United States
18 Nov 09
Earlier this year because of all the Muslim terrorism and violence that's happening as described here: (http://thereligionofpeace.com/), and because I don't want to live in Sharia law, I didn't trust Muslims at all, and another person said I couldn't open up and I was described a racist stereotype or something like that. I feared being banned on Mylot here and viewed as an outcast as it was my last chance of social redemption, so I had no choice but to cave in and tell her that I didn't hate her. I was just warning her of the violent nature of Muslims and of their religion. Political correctness got the best of me back then. I've been either banned or walked out on my own from multiple bulletin boards and message boards in the past, even kicked out of chat rooms for telling others how I felt, even going so far as being brutally honest and being as insensitive and Simon Cowell-like as a few forum members I met with in the past. I even lost an ex-girlfriend because of an argument I had with her and we broke up. My emotions must've gotten the better of me back then so it was my fault that it happened. In any case, Mylot barely gave me any trouble at all because of how civilized it is, and if I was banned because of expressing how I felt about Muslims and Islam overall, then I really don't have anyone else at all; it would've proved that I wasn't social material at all and I go back to being anti-social again, not to mention that i'll lose all my money that I ever made here. After all, i'm still searching for info on Arabs who AREN'T either Muslim or anti-semitic, or those AGAINST Sharia law; anything to suggest that there might be good, friendly Arabs that don't fit the terrorist or Islamist profiles. Here's the topic to prove it, but the number of posts from others are long...14 pages long. http://www.mylot.com/w/discussions/2027170.aspx
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@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
18 Nov 09
They do get a kick out of pitting us against one another, don't they? I have met decent peace loving Muslims. I have also been told that I should be hung upside down and gutted, after being repeatedly r*p*d. So what to do? Realize that we must deal with people on an individual basis and not as a group. Collectivism is wrong....in all it's forms. Human beings are individuals before their creator, and should be treated as such. Much of the politically correct using crowd...would rather we all are lumped into groups, so much easier to use mind control and mob mentality then...but the individual still can think for themselves.
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@bryanwmc (1051)
• Malaysia
18 Nov 09
lazerm dude,the way you feel ,probly if someone attempts to recruit u to fly a plane into a building somewhere in the heartland of the country where its perceived to be where the terrorist hail from,you will probly consider it seriously, the way you feel about them is pretty much a shared sentiment with them off things American. Whats the difference? Except for the horrifying knowlege that those guys are willing to die violently to satisfy their hate!If anything,least you can relate a little now on how they feel !
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@lazerm (478)
• United States
18 Nov 09
dude, antisocial, don't get along with anyone , angry all the time?well i'm usually empty- void of emotions except an unrenlenting thirst for vengence against the vermin who have treated me like garbage for the past 20 years!man, send me a friends invite, Im sure we would get along fine!I too will not kowtow to muslim throatcutter jihadists.if i had my way all mosques would be shut down and the muslim hordes would be thrown out of this country.but we must also get rid of the international banker luciferian oneworlders, marxists,communists, socialists, and other non-american scum. cleanse america of its impurities before its too late- before this beast system destroys or enslaves us all.oh, by the way- too all who say i'm a racist for posting this? I don't care! whoever doesn't like my message, tough.
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• Australia
18 Nov 09
No one wants to offend other people, but PC in some instances (maybe most instances) is lunacy. When we were at school, we learned the feminine form of actor was actress - and a big long list of occupations, animals etc. I suppose children might be happy they no longer need to learn them. When it becomes necessary to call a manhole a personhole, I think it has gone too far. Now, can someone please explain why our schools are no longer allowed to use a blackboard (it is now a chalkboard) but they ARE allowed to use a whiteboard?
• United States
18 Nov 09
That is exactly my point, Cloud, and you stated it perfectly!! The examples you offered, also perfect! Thank you so much. :) Karen
@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
18 Nov 09
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@bryanwmc (1051)
• Malaysia
18 Nov 09
In a nutshell,its not so much the words itself but the intention of the person who expressed it..or how its received . For example, a black person in america will not take offence if he is refered to as 'n...ga' by another black person but he or she will be in arms or will be in a 'intent to kill mood' if word is used however innocently by a non black person.Double standards,i think. If we wish to take offence,doesnt need much for us to work up an excuse,in the hands of a master manipulator, words can be used or abused to their advantage easily.Just a tool!Snide,condescending,facetious,cynical,tongue in cheek,jest,its the manner in which the expression is intended by the person!
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• United States
18 Nov 09
Perfect examples, Bryan, to help express the point I am making. And it stretches waaaaayyyyyyy beyond what serves any worthwhile purpose. The black leaders in many communities are addressing the very issue you used as an example of a thing which seems hypocritical. And yes, too many use the PC stuff to get up in arms over truly innocent things, just to shout aloud perhaps? As to you being censored? The same thing happened to me months ago when commenting on a very wrenching discussion: This prlcks me to the very soul...but Mylot censored the P word in its original form. Ugh! Thank you for your input. Karen
@bryanwmc (1051)
• Malaysia
18 Nov 09
There it is ! was just censored by MY Lot when i spelt out the 'N' word,which expresses a point..it was just innocently used for description n no sinister agenda behind it and referring to no one in particular..yet the very word is deemed unacceptable.Politically incorrect i suppose.!
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@vandana7 (102698)
• India
18 Nov 09
Hi PeacefulWmn, I think by being too conscious, you will make more mistakes. :) Actually, it is very tough. I have seem plenty of people out here using white lies to return to equilibrium. :) But not hurting others comes from practicing it from very childhood. I am afraid, we all will make mistakes, and we must learn to take it in our stride, and if possible correct ourselves. At the most, we can apologize for our mistakes.
• United States
18 Nov 09
So true, Vandana. Childhood is where many things are learned, and pure and simple respect goes a long ways. I'm a disabled, white (yes, WHITE, not caucasion) woman whose partner is a black man (he doesn't want to be called African American) and my children's father is part Chippewa, or as he and his family call it, Indian. And that's only a fraction of the family/personal dynamics!! Can you imagine? Believe me, I and my family and friends gave up being politically correct years ago lol. Karen
• United States
20 Nov 09
LOL, it can be a bit confusing to others, yes?? :D
@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
18 Nov 09
I can relate. We onced joked about calling the UN to intervene in family get togethers cause we all had such different backgrounds. lol
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@lazerm (478)
• United States
18 Nov 09
WAR IS PEACE! IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH! FREEDOM IS SLAVERY!ALL HAIL BIG BROTHER!oh,you don't agree? then the thought police will hall you off to the MINISTRY OF LOVE.if americans continue to be weak sheeple, unable to tell the truth- 2+2=4 than the people deserve to be like winston smith in orwell's 1984. with a telescreen watching their everymove in a guys own house!checkout bbc 1984 on youtube, starring peter cushing in the definitive version of george orwells classic.I however will never conform, and if someone doesn't like my non-pc views they can go to hell.
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• United States
18 Nov 09
What, Lazerm?? LOL. I think I got most of that, especially the last part :)
@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
18 Nov 09
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@gabs8513 (48686)
• United Kingdom
18 Nov 09
Yes it has and People are very careful what they say and step on glass without breaking it To me it is wrong, innocent remarks being turned into a court case People taking things and words the wrong way Even on TV they have to be careful how they say things as only a couple of weeks ago here there was a big thing on TV about a famous Person saying something innocent and it got called out of Proportion he apologized but I did not think there was any need as it was harmless But that is how it is now
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• United States
19 Nov 09
I also hear of so many things, senseless things, that have come of this drive to be obscenely PC...jobs lost, people tried in court, fights started, even killings. It's crazy and needs to have a stop or cap put on it to limit it. It's reached a point where each innocent remark can be misread or taken out of context and the results can be devastating. Karen
@bobmnu (8157)
• United States
18 Nov 09
We have allowed the politician to create a victim class of people. Look at the Hate Crime laws. You can be convicted for what you think or what others think you are thinking. If a white man, black man and a woman all applied for the same job, and it was given to the white man the other two could file discrimination charges. If the black man or woman got the job the white man could not sue. Who is the employer going to hire? PC at its best.
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• United States
18 Nov 09
Hi Bob :) I agree, the overkill limits reached by the concept of being politically correct have indeed created many a victim mentality where none previously existed, and made it hard to know what to do or say, as per your "who is an employer to hire?" Whomever it is, someone else will ticked off...that is the one guarantee. Thank you for expressing your opinion. Karen
@cher913 (25781)
• Canada
18 Nov 09
what gets me about this is christmas. we cannot wish anyone a merry christmas because we might offend them because they might not believe in christmas because of their religion. i think it has gone way overboard.
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• United States
18 Nov 09
I know...this has become an ever-growing problem, and it is a sad thing to me. As you said, it's all gone way overboard. Thank you for your response, Cher. Karen
@ANTIQUELADY (36440)
• United States
18 Nov 09
YES, I think it's gone way too far. I NORMALLY DO NOT DISCUSS POLITICS. I'M NOT AFRAID OF OFFENDING ANYONE Because u know me i'm going to say what i think but i think it's disgusting that people are so ready to get offended all the time. U couldn't say boo at so many people that they wouldn't make a big deal out of it. I think it's disgusting , all that hoopla. I'm alsovery tired of them giving obama such a hard time. I'm tired of all the obama jokes i receive that are immediately deleted.
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• United States
18 Nov 09
Yes, Jo, I do know that about you, and your openess is one of the things I love about you :) I agree with you completely. Poop on political correctness any more. I only put the discussion under "politics" in the first place because of the terminology, and yet, I see no direct relation between politics and the phrase "politically correct." It's all become about so much jargon to me, and to most people I know, for that matter. People have used it as you said, for one more reason to be offended, go off the deep end, and get ridiculous. Karen
• United States
18 Nov 09
I hate being PC. Enfact most times I am not. I just say what I think. In today's world PC is used as a weapon. If someone does not like what you are saying than they use PC against you. It is a way to keep people from saying what htey think. Which is againt "freedom of speech".
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• United States
18 Nov 09
You're right Lilwonders. Not only is it a weapon, but also a license to get ticked off, sue someone, and cause a lot of fuss just for the attention and drama value...in my humble and politically incorrect opininon. Karen
@bodhisatya (2384)
• India
18 Nov 09
Hi Karen, I don't think so that in my country people are bothered about being politically correct. Infact they are least bothered. People do hurl racial comments, there are gender bias in day to day life and peoople openly pass comments about it. Infact I think "this" attitude would be politically correct, as the politicians are the worst of a kind so yes I am proud to say that we are always "politically" correct.
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• United States
18 Nov 09
Hello Bodhi. LOL, good point! Here in the US, so much of a big deal has been made of some things, okay--some are valid enough--but...it's gone into overkill, as far as I'm concerned. Every innocent remark can now be misconstrued, and I get tired of it. I am no longer politically correct so much as honest, real, and upfront...not to be mistaken for rudeness :) Karen
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• India
18 Nov 09
Way to Go dear friend, Lol...
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@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
18 Nov 09
Good morning Karen, you'll be pleased to hear I write from a country which hasn't actually discovered it yet as really no need, it is a bit of a moot point when people are brought up to treat others with respect. Now obviously in some cases it needed to be introduced to deal with those offensive types who go round calling black people 'N's' and other examples like that which really are due to lack of education and ignorance. But the rest of it, what a joke. The most laughable part is the job titles, no one does the same job which they think they do anymore and what is worse, at least in the UK, is that local governments waste money employing people to specifically think up these new job titles. I'm not particularly up on the new replacement titles but suffice to say the UK no longer has bin men. It's too early to think of the 100's of other examples sorry. Yesterday someone was going on about the dangers of calling women sweetie, I'd have to leave Greece if that was an issue here as it is a country wide form of endearment between both sexes and in my mind not politically incorrect at all. But then again I still say thank you if a man holds a door open for me rather than leaping down his throat that he is being patronising and politically incorrect. I think once the basic offensive gaffes are removed like the example I gave with black people then there's no need to keep thinking up new ones.
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• United States
18 Nov 09
How nice it would be to live in such a country. I do think blacks need to quit calling each other the same name that offends them coming from others. But then they've already been advised of that by some of the black elders. As I said, I've given up trying to keep it all straight. I am inherently respectful anyway! Karen
@xzvzion (133)
• Singapore
18 Nov 09
I do not really believe in being politically correct, as long as I don't say words that hurts a group of people because of their race of religion. If they say things that are dubbed "politically incorrect" , you either a) let them be and don't listen, b) use bad words that are correct, politically c)if you think you're stronger, punch him to send him a message. There might even come a time when everything h*s a hidden m**ning and will *ll b* c*nc*r*d!
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• United States
18 Nov 09
Your last sentence is a gem, and it demonstrates of an originally good concept being taken to the bounds of absolute nonsense! Thank you :)) Karen
• Eugene, Oregon
24 Jan 16
No, we should be aware of things that we say that might offend or hurt the feelings of someone who heard us say it. Political correctness is just what we used to call manners, I think.