"Tea Party" More Popular Than Democratic or Republican Party...  

So you're saying more people agree with the Republicans but are too embarrassed to associate themselves with them? To me it would seem that if you have two groups that are conservative and one that's liberal to moderate the two conservative groups would take from one another. Even if they were in the majority they wouldn't win because they'd be divided.

Annie

lol, tea party is the defacto name of the movement...."tea baggers" was the derogitory term used by the media and other imature folks, look up the term "rea bagging" in the urban dictionary....lol...
Like I explained in my post, this movement isnt about conservative ro liberal, most of these folks though they may describe themselves as conservaitve folks, it's more about an unintrusive constitutional government.

Many who are very active in the movement are far right, as far as I'm concerned. Sorry, X, but they ARE...lol! Whatever word best describes them, they stand for the opposite of what I stand for from what I've seen.

Annie

So annie, you stand for big intrusive government, slowly eroding liberty with things like the patriot act and such? I know I have called you a statist in the past but it was tongue in cheek.

No, X, I don't believe in "big intrusive government" and I think you know what I think of the Patriot Act. However, if that's how you describe a government that makes sure all of the people have access to affordable health care, preferably with a public option to compete with insurance companies if not a single-payer system, then label me all you want.

Annie

*facepalm
Annie, your still arguing in extremes and strawmen. Did I say that a national healthcare program had to mean big intrusive government? No, I didn't. How it all gets put together is going to determine whether or not it is big and intrusive government. So far, everything proposed HAS been. Does this mean we can't do it with out big and intrusive government? Again, the answer is an emphatic and resounding NO.
I have a question for you, a serious question. This is a question one has been able to answer yet. Your not allowed to answer it with a counter question, pointing to the previous administration, or to a politcal party though. Two questions actually...
1. Do you support the current proposed bill in either the house or senate?
2. What is it about either bill you like, what does it acomplish (specifics please) and what text in the bill tells you it acomplishes this?

Typo:
"I don't see the tea party at large ever really merging with the tea parties in any large way"
should read:
"I don't see the tea party at large ever really merging with the republicans in any large way"

About your correction, X, I must be a mind reader because I read that sentence as you meant it before you corrected it, I didn't even notice the error...lol! I agree about how quickly these polls can change, even flip completely. It all depends on what's happened in the few days before the poll is taken, more or less.

Personally, I'd like to start a "Common Sense Party"!

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"Personally, I'd like to start a "Common Sense Party"!"
Blasphemy! Sacrilige! how DARE you!

You can say - or type - THAT again...lol!

Annie

When you only watch one source for news and when they only show one side, I guess it's not surprising!

Annie

Sorry Annie, but he's not talking about MSNBC.

I'm not sure what you mean about the difference between "popularity" and "favorability"; please give me your definition of each! I'm also interested in an example or two of the moderate Republicans you say actually exist. They used to but they've obviously been given their marching orders...either toe the line or get banished from the tent!

I disagree about the tea party movement not having any clear leaders. There's Glenn Beck, there's D1ck Armey, there's Michele Bachmann along with some other Republicans in Congress who have certainly done everything possible to assert themselves into the movement. I'm not sure if Sarah Palin wants to be associated with the tea partiers or not. Anyway, I realize some of the average people who attend tea parties and identify with them may not necessarily hold the same views as these right-wing politicians but I still think if there are any candidates from that group in the future they will split the conservative vote and possibly help the Democrats.

Annie

Here you go Annie. I'm honestly surprised some people just don't understand the difference between the two. Perhaps I should have used Kanye West as an example.

http://www.merriam-webste...
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/popular

"I'm also interested in an example or two of the moderate Republicans you say actually exist."

John McCain and Chuck Hagel are both moderate republicans. If you don't think they're moderate enough than I could just point to Snowe or Collins as they vote with the Democrats 75% to 80% of the time. As I'm sure you know Olympia Snowe worked very hard to be a part of this health care bill. She really wanted it to be something she could vote for, but that the democrats shut her and every other republican out focusing only on getting other democrats to support it.

There are people who have tried to assert themselves in the movement, but Beck, Bachmann, and Armey are still not leaders of the movement.

There really are no clear leaders in this movement really. there are people who the media presents as leaders, there are even politicians jumping on the band wagon that are being shown as examples of it's leaders. The real leaders are the every day folks involved.

If a "leader" was needed though, I would gladly hand the reigns to someone like Rand Paul, he is a good liberty minded young and uprising figure. His father, Ron Paul of course is another good one I'd like to see as a leader in it. There are a few state reps in my state that come to mind. I don't howver see someone like Most of the figures in congress or news media fitting the bill at all, it would seem counter productive to it.