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myLot reputation of 96/100. thea09 (5382)   ranked 156 out of 19,273 in questions & answers 3 years ago

Any ideas for this one. The laptop was running on battery this morning despite being plugged into the electric. It kept beeping as doesn't like to be on battery. So as we didn't have a powercut I swapped the electirc wire between this lap top and the other one and I'm back on electric. Unfortunately my son is now unable to use the other lap top as it won't receive any electric with the wire I took from this one.

Any untechnical answers please.

 

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1. myLot reputation of 95/100. The_Lamb_Lies_Down (6932)   3 years ago

Replace the wire.


myLot reputation of 96/100. thea09 (5382)   ranked 156 out of 19,273 in questions & answers  3 years ago

Is that the only option, it's too late to go to town now, the shops shut in less than an hour.


myLot reputation of 95/100. The_Lamb_Lies_Down (6932)  3 years ago

It's the ONLY non-technical answer I know of...everything else is an attempt to replace something in the wire itself...


myLot reputation of 86/100. benny128 (2330)   ranked 1,710 out of 19,273 in questions & answers  3 years ago

did you check the fuse in the plug ?? thats the simpliest otherwise it could be the wire or the power pack inside the laptop

cheapest fault would be the fuse,

next would be buying a new wire

final would be if the power adapter had gone in the laptop.


myLot reputation of 96/100. thea09 (5382)   ranked 156 out of 19,273 in questions & answers  3 years ago

Well as it works in one and not the other it sounds like the wire then. Is the fuse inside the plug end? Does an English plug need an English fuse?


willowgirl (98)   ranked 11,682 out of 19,273 in questions & answers  3 years ago

Yes! The fuse is inside the plug. To change the fuse you just need to unscrew the central screw from the middle of the 3 prongs. inside you can see the fuse. It will be labelled something like 13amps or 3amps. Ideally for a laptop you probably want about 3amps for your fuse. It will work with 13amps but it won't blow as quickly, and fuses are actually there to blow. It is a good thing when your fuse blows and you should feel happy. Snap out old fuse, snap in new one and then just put your central screw back into the plug, so as to put it all back together. Really easy.

Fuses are just like wires that are really weak and fall apart easily if the electric gets too hot. They melt if the electric is too much and come apart. You can't put them in back to front or anything. They are nice and easy to replace.

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2. myLot reputation of 66/100. shambhujit (1114)   ranked 1,617 out of 19,273 in questions & answers   3 years ago

Get it recharged. Your son can do other work during the time.

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3. myLot reputation of 94/100. sleepylittlerose (1447)   ranked 720 out of 19,273 in questions & answers   3 years ago

Another option is that the battery has gone bad. Sometimes when they go they will not allow power to flow through them at all so therefore even if the laptop is plugged in it will act as if the battery is weak.


myLot reputation of 95/100. The_Lamb_Lies_Down (6932)  3 years ago

If it were the battery, switching cords would not have made a difference...therefore, it is likely the cord.

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4. myLot reputation of 97/100. ShepherdSpy (4262)   ranked 181 out of 19,273 in questions & answers   3 years ago

About as untechnically as I can manage..it sounds as though you have a problem with your first power Lead,Thea! I assume Your "wire" plugs directly from the wall socket plug into the laptop,and there's no transformer block anywhere along it? Probably it got pulled accidentally until the wire inside broke,or if it's not a sealed plug going into the wall socket,you could open it up to check if a wire inside needs reconnected... If that's not the problem, (and the wires inside the plug can't be got at) You could try cutting off the sealed plug and fit a new one,but the problem could be at the computer end of the lead,not the plug,and a replacement lead wouldn't usually cost much more than having to buy a plug,and then find out the plug end wasn't the problem..


myLot reputation of 97/100. ShepherdSpy (4262)   ranked 181 out of 19,273 in questions & answers  3 years ago

Also,if it has a fuse in the plug,try replacing that first..


myLot reputation of 96/100. thea09 (5382)   ranked 156 out of 19,273 in questions & answers  3 years ago

Hi shepherd spy, it's an English plug going into an European adapter then into a two pin Greek wall socket. It just looks like a normal English plug to me but I haven't got a clue what to do if I open it and if I take it to the cafenion they won't know English plugs. So it sounds like a new wire like Lamby said, do you think it will be ok to put a Greek wire into a toshiba laptop then if they sell them up at Multirama?


myLot reputation of 97/100. ShepherdSpy (4262)   ranked 181 out of 19,273 in questions & answers  3 years ago

If you can open it,and one of the 2 wires inside is disconnected from the metal terminal,put it back into the hole in the terminal and tighten up the screw again. you may need to trim back the plastic insulation to get the wire long enough to fit back if it's broken..


myLot reputation of 96/100. thea09 (5382)   ranked 156 out of 19,273 in questions & answers  3 years ago

Ok we'll see if we can find a screwdriver. I know there was one around last week somewhere.


myLot reputation of 96/100. thea09 (5382)   ranked 156 out of 19,273 in questions & answers  3 years ago

There's a black box sitting in the middle of the wire by the way. It says it is an acidic adaptar???


myLot reputation of 97/100. ShepherdSpy (4262)   ranked 181 out of 19,273 in questions & answers  3 years ago

OK,so if you can't fix the plug,then it's now going to be more expensive to replace...the box is the power supply for the laptop..I was hoping the Laptop had a power supply built in and it was only the lead you might need to replace..good luck!


myLot reputation of 96/100. thea09 (5382)   ranked 156 out of 19,273 in questions & answers  3 years ago

OK I've looked at the plug and it won't unscrew and we've pulled the leads in and out of the black box thingy and it isn't sending any power to the lap top. Do you think it's worth trying the computer repair man or taking it up to the shop for a new lead? Sorry I'm clueless with this stuff.


myLot reputation of 97/100. ShepherdSpy (4262)   ranked 181 out of 19,273 in questions & answers  3 years ago

Can You describe what it says on the box,please? does it say anything like "110v-240v"? laptops are designed to go anywhere and some can automatically convert electricity from a socket in most parts of the world..but as you have the power supply block on the Lead,it could be 220/240v only..is your lead from the wall socket removable from the block part,or is it all in one piece? if the plug part is removable from the block,try swapping that lead for the other computer's and see if it works..


myLot reputation of 97/100. ShepherdSpy (4262)   ranked 181 out of 19,273 in questions & answers  3 years ago

If it's just the plug part that's the problem,that's easily replaced.
(and cheaper).. If the Block DOES say 110v-220v (or 240v),then that's a universal power supply..it can take ANY mains voltage.you could go to the shop and get a greek plug and lead that fits into the socket in the block so you wouldn't need the travel adaptor..


myLot reputation of 96/100. thea09 (5382)   ranked 156 out of 19,273 in questions & answers  3 years ago

It appears to be the block bit not the plug end. I've just asked Stvasile this as well, repair black box or order a new one, what do you think?


myLot reputation of 97/100. ShepherdSpy (4262)   ranked 181 out of 19,273 in questions & answers  3 years ago

If it's the box that's the trouble,they usually are not worth repairing..they're a sealed unit,and once you bust one open to see the problem,it's not cost effective to do anything but replace it..repair guys in electronics look at a repair thinking "Is it going to cost more to repair than replace"? If Yes,they'll recommend you bin the thing and buy a new one..that's why they call them consumer electronics..


myLot reputation of 96/100. thea09 (5382)   ranked 156 out of 19,273 in questions & answers  3 years ago

And I suppose that bit is expensive?


myLot reputation of 95/100. stvasile (5523)   ranked 2,699 out of 19,273 in questions & answers  3 years ago

I agree with ShepherdSpy - I think it's better if you get a new one. I just browsed some of the local online computer shops and a laptop cable is about 50 $.
However, considering you're not very technical, I think it's better if you go and buy one yourself. That's because these cables are of various input/output voltage and you may end up buying an inappropriate one online. If you go to the store yourself, you just show the vendor your old cable and ask for one like that. If you can, you may even take your laptop and test the new cable at the store, just to make sure.


myLot reputation of 95/100. stvasile (5523)   ranked 2,699 out of 19,273 in questions & answers  3 years ago

It might cost you less than 50$, it depends on the model, but I think 50$ is a safe amount to take with you.


myLot reputation of 96/100. thea09 (5382)   ranked 156 out of 19,273 in questions & answers  3 years ago

I didn't expect anything as expensive as that for a laptop on its last legs anyway, I think I'll see if a friend of the Greeks who has just got a new lap top still has his old wire system.

Thanks so much to both of you for your help to the technically challenged.happy


myLot reputation of 97/100. ShepherdSpy (4262)   ranked 181 out of 19,273 in questions & answers  3 years ago

apart from repairing the computer,that lead with the block in it is one of the more expensive accessories that comes with the computer..unfortunately..


willowgirl (98)   ranked 11,682 out of 19,273 in questions & answers  3 years ago

It sounds like the lead from the mains socket to the black brick, block, power supply thing, can itself be unplugged from the power brick. When you do this, does it look like the wire for a kettle? These wires are called IEC wires. Suprisingly they are dead standard and you can swap european ones for uk ones. The only difference is the plug on the end. Big 3 prong thing for UK and ireland and little euro thing for europe. You can thus just swap a UK wire for a euro one and carry on using the same power supply brick. Well you could if your brick thing was working anyway, which it might not be! Not a lot of help in your current situation but just saying as it would mean you could do away with using the travel adaptor!


myLot reputation of 97/100. ShepherdSpy (4262)   ranked 181 out of 19,273 in questions & answers  3 years ago

Ta much for BR,Thea...I hope the replacement isn't too expensive...

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5. myLot reputation of 96/100. dawnald (24275)   ranked 96 out of 19,273 in questions & answers   3 years ago

buy a new laptop? :-)


myLot reputation of 96/100. thea09 (5382)   ranked 156 out of 19,273 in questions & answers  3 years ago

Don't say that.thumbdownthumbdown


myLot reputation of 96/100. dawnald (24275)   ranked 96 out of 19,273 in questions & answers  3 years ago

Sorry but you asked for non-technical....

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6. myLot reputation of 100/100. PeacefulWmn9 (3480)   ranked 870 out of 19,273 in questions & answers   3 years ago

happy Must be the wire you had was faulty. For both your and your sons computers to work, you will probably need to buy a new wire.


myLot reputation of 96/100. thea09 (5382)   ranked 156 out of 19,273 in questions & answers  3 years ago

Yes I've just been fiddling round now with Shepherd Spys advice and there's no electric coming through the wire. This is when I don't like driving an hour to town each way just for this.

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7. myLot reputation of 95/100. stvasile (5523)   ranked 2,699 out of 19,273 in questions & answers   3 years ago

When you take the cable from your laptop (that didn't work) and put it to the other laptop - does it work? 'Cause if it doesn't, then it's broken and you need to get it fixed or replaced.
Another thing... Laptops generally have a cable made of two parts: one that goes into the plug, and has a small parallelepiped box on the other end, and another one, that is plugged into the small box and into your laptop.
See if you can determine which one is broken, by combining with the ones from your son's laptop. E.g. the first cable of your laptop with the second of his, then the first of his with the second of yours, but be careful to remember which ones are from your laptop and which from his.
If you find that the first cable of your laptop is broken (the one with the small box) - it's bad. It will cost more to repair it or replace it, because the box contains some electronics. If it's the second, it will cost you less.


myLot reputation of 96/100. thea09 (5382)   ranked 156 out of 19,273 in questions & answers  3 years ago

The cable only works on one of the laptops, it has the box in the middle . Ok it's one black box that doesn't work - bad news then. Do you think order a new one on the internet or see if the shop in town can repair the black box?


myLot reputation of 97/100. ShepherdSpy (4262)   ranked 181 out of 19,273 in questions & answers  3 years ago

pity that mylot doesn't offer a chatroom function...this format works well for a leisurely discussion,but it could be confusing for Thea sorting through all the different advice (or the same advice coming from several different people!)


myLot reputation of 96/100. thea09 (5382)   ranked 156 out of 19,273 in questions & answers  3 years ago

Especially when I lost the internet before in the middle of it as well.


myLot reputation of 97/100. ShepherdSpy (4262)   ranked 181 out of 19,273 in questions & answers  3 years ago

The good news is,it didn't take out the computer too...


myLot reputation of 95/100. stvasile (5523)   ranked 2,699 out of 19,273 in questions & answers  3 years ago

It means you have a model with only one cable, not with a two-segment cable...
It's fried... I'm sure you can get one online, maybe even from a local website, not necessarily e-bay or such...
Don't you have an Utra Pro Computers in Greece too? Or something like that... Flamingo Computers? see if they have an online store.


myLot reputation of 96/100. thea09 (5382)   ranked 156 out of 19,273 in questions & answers  3 years ago

Hi, I answered you in SS's box. We have a multirama here in town. If I can't get one off someone else you're right about me not looking on line, anyway you know what the postage is like on this kind of thing anyway.thumbdown

Thanks for your help.

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8. myLot reputation of 99/100. zed_k4 (7705)   ranked 66 out of 19,273 in questions & answers   3 years ago

Sounds like a sticky situation. No choice, until you are able to get a new lappie for your son, no other choice. Or best, if you can send the lappie to a computer hardware shop, they can advise on what's wrong and all that, the repair pricing etc.


myLot reputation of 96/100. thea09 (5382)   ranked 156 out of 19,273 in questions & answers  3 years ago

Hi Zed, my two experts above have identified the problem and it's an expensive wire. There's no way he'll be getting a new lap top, mine is nearly dead as well.


myLot reputation of 99/100. zed_k4 (7705)   ranked 66 out of 19,273 in questions & answers  3 years ago

So are you going to buy the expensive wire then, Thea?

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9. myLot reputation of 61/100. vonmac (13409)   3 years ago

The laptop was running on battery this morning despite being plugged into the electric.
Thats strange
But the wire is working because you are on electric yet its not getting elctric through to your sons laptop
Thats maybe not so strange. My laptop booklet said never to use the power supply to charge up or power another laptop.
I dont know why it says not to do that,
Had you used the same wire for both laptops before, frequently and are they the same kind of laptops.


myLot reputation of 96/100. thea09 (5382)   ranked 156 out of 19,273 in questions & answers  3 years ago

Hi vonmac, my two experts above have identified the problem thanks, and what a suprise, it's expensive.thumbdown


myLot reputation of 61/100. vonmac (13409)  3 years ago

I have a spare black box and connection cable for an ASUS laptop
It works, but the laptop doesnt as it fell 6 feet from a shelf onto the ground earlier today
Bits went everywhere. So I am using the spare laptop.
If you want the one from the asua you can have it. It would probably solve your problem


myLot reputation of 96/100. thea09 (5382)   ranked 156 out of 19,273 in questions & answers  3 years ago

Wow, that's a really generous offer, thank you. I don't know if all these kind of things are compatible or not. I'll have a look tomorrow what make his is as I'm nearly asleep now, then I'm sure some expert here would know if they fit together.thumbupthumbup


myLot reputation of 61/100. vonmac (13409)  3 years ago

Have a look and see, if you want it its easy enough to jiffy bag up and post


willowgirl (98)   ranked 11,682 out of 19,273 in questions & answers  3 years ago

Sounds like a good plan! :)


myLot reputation of 97/100. ShepherdSpy (4262)   ranked 181 out of 19,273 in questions & answers  3 years ago

And then you're back to the "Posting stuff to Greece" situation that may or may not be able to get there..


myLot reputation of 96/100. thea09 (5382)   ranked 156 out of 19,273 in questions & answers  3 years ago

Hi Vonmac, thanks again for your kind offer but bearing in mind Greek customs refuse electrical things into Greece now, stupid but true, I hung on first in the hope I could contact with the local computer man. I caught up with him yesterday and he gave me a spare wire he had, so problem sorted, but thanks again.happythumbupthumbup


myLot reputation of 61/100. vonmac (13409)  3 years ago

Glad the problem got sorted.
If anyone does want it, let me know. Our house is full of stuff like this,
Must have a clear out one day, but we dont throw things away that other people might be able to put to good use.

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10. willowgirl (98)   ranked 11,682 out of 19,273 in questions & answers   3 years ago


The trick to understanding these things is not to be scared! :)

As you have now learned, the latop wire isn't just a wire. It has a blackbox that is what is called the power supply. This converts the electricity from the mains (high voltages like 220 volts) to low voltages like 12volts. Basically it converts the kind of electric that comes from your socket into more like the electric that would come from a battery.

As to UK mains plugs, they all come with a fuse inside. I think that fuses are probably going to be the same all over europe if you can find where to buy one. It's good to have some in stock, as they are handy. The fuse protects the equipment if somethings goes wrong. The idea is that the fuse blows up before your equipments does or before you get electrocuted (I'm not making this up) The fuse is like a really weak thing that breaks easily in order to stop more important stuff from breaking. Fuses are dead cheap like you can buy whole packets of them from the pound shop here. Fuses are really easy to replace you don't have to mess with the wiring or anything, you just prize out the fuse and snap a new one in. This is why it is always worth trying to replace the fuse first.

Hope that helps a little! :)
It's good to try and understand stuff!


myLot reputation of 96/100. thea09 (5382)   ranked 156 out of 19,273 in questions & answers  3 years ago

Hi willowgirl, it's one of those plugs which won't open.
Useful info though thankss.

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