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| Have You seen this Movie? Have you been a reader of the Holmes books,now or in the past,or been a viewer of previous movie or tv versions of this iconic Character? I quite enjoyed the Movie,being a reader of the books,and not so much of the previous movie or TV output..but I think it brought the London setting for the Holmes stories to vibrant,eventful life! You could boil the Movie down to being a Buddy Movie,with Holmes and his Friend,Dr Watson as the Leads (Robert Downey,Jr,and Jude Law respectively)..The books are pretty much Guys only stories,with little female contribution,apart from the Stalwart housekeeper,and the occasional female Client..The Movie lifts Holmes' one female Adversary from the books,Irene Adler,and gives Her a sizeable role..Lestrade of the Yard is the Detective usually left holding Holmes' coat at a crime scene,and various baddies chew the scenery..Not being that familiar with London in Victorian times,or even present day,apparently there are goofs in the geography..eg-how does one character get from The Palace of Westminster to Tower Bridge on foot in a few minutes when apparently they're separated by several miles in reality?! It's a minor issue if you don't have the London Cabbie's "Knowledge".. So..What do you think? would you go see this Movie,or not? | | | | | |
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1. Torunn (1536)
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3 years ago
| | I've just seen it, and I really liked it. I'm not quite sure I would call it a Sherlock Holmes movie though, too much fighting and not enough deduction. I thought the views of London from above where splendid, and yes, my London friends say the geography was wrong but I didn't really care much. It is a bit weird though, one should think that checking a map of London would be pretty easy? | | | | | | |
ShepherdSpy (4265)
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3 years ago
| | And Especially for it having been directed by Guy Ritchie! | | | |
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| iloveinter (8)
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3 years ago
| | too too too much fighting... | | | |
ShepherdSpy (4265)
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3 years ago
| | The thing is,with the Movie being set in London,People who have never BEEN in London may already been familiar with images of the River Thames,The Houses of Parliament and "Big Ben"..Some Artistic license was needed to fit these iconic Images and places into the Movie..after all,Many Movies set in say,Washington DC,may have only have a few establishing shots in that City,but most of the street filming could have been done with a Second Unit in Canada! Having visited Washington,I can recognise a DC "Metro" Train,and Some Movies Make the assumption many have not and that viewers don't mind seeing a "stand in" subway train system!..It's all in the attention to detail.. | | | |
Torunn (1536)
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3 years ago
| | I agree with the need to fit in some well-known buildings, but you don't have to put them in the same picture. However, as it as a film, you just say that you didn't show all the time they actually used to get from place A to place B. And I agree Guy Ritchie probably shouldn't need a map to know where things are in London. | | | |
ShepherdSpy (4265)
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3 years ago
| | It's true..there's not many movies I can think of that are/were filmed in "real time" (the "24" TV series is a notable exception),so much action or passage of time can take place off camera...it's the editing that got Me..one moment the character is in a sewer tunnel under Parliament,the next on top of the partially built Tower Bridge! | | | |
Torunn (1536)
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3 years ago
| | Maybe that's because it's not really Sherlock Holmes, but Superman! Not sure what he would do without phone boxes though ... ;-) | | | |
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ShepherdSpy (4265)
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3 years ago
| | The books describe Holmes as Tall and thin,and the Basil Rathbone image for many people comes to the fore..I Must take another read of the books,just for background reference.. | | | |
ElicBxn (24693)
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3 years ago
| | I had a problem with Basil Rathbone too. I personally like William Gillette http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Gillette as Holmes best - apparently there is some speculation that the early art for the magazines used Gillette as their model. | | | |
sagnik42 (1574)
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3 years ago
| | I agree, Robert Downey Jr. doesn't fit the Holmes image in our mind. In the trailers, I have hardly seen him in his famour hat. But, I do not have problems with that. They are making a movie. It is not a book adaptation. As long as he acts like a Holmes, I do not have a problem with anything. I am looking forward to watching this movie. I am really curious, how it will turn out. | | | |
ElicBxn (24693)
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3 years ago
| | One thing I've got to say for the trailers, that Watson isn't a buffoon, I always HATED that with the Rathbone movies - the man is a DOCTOR - D*MN it!!! | | | |
ShepherdSpy (4265)
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3 years ago
| | not to mention a veteran Soldier,too..The books seemed to Leave Watson on the outskirts of any action,though He could be relied on to bring along his old service pistol,if needed,but in this movie,He definitely had Holmes' Back with the Bad Guys! | | | |
ElicBxn (24693)
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3 years ago
| | There is some debate that Watson may have "down played" his role in the stores to build up the rep of Holmes. | | | |
ShepherdSpy (4265)
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3 years ago
| | Watson's Chronicle of Holmes' exploits mentions other cases Closed by the Detective,but says those featured were hand picked to highlight Holmes' deductive abilities..He could well be leaving out episodes where He had more of a contribution.. | | | |
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ElicBxn (24693)
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3 years ago
| | so, what do YOU think Holmes had against both the Underground and telephones? | | | |
ShepherdSpy (4265)
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3 years ago
| | I can't think why the Tube and the telephone weren't introduced into the Holmes stories as they were around at the time of the setting of the stories,but perhaps not too widespread as yet(?),unless the romantic image of the horse drawn cab and the use of the telegraph and telegrams added something the newer tech did not.. | | | |
ElicBxn (24693)
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3 years ago
| | No, I haven't seen the movie - yet - but the friend I was out to the memorial service with yesterday highly recommended it. I was aware that they were using Irene Alder as one of the characters. Are you aware that Carole Nelson Douglas writes - or at least has written some Irene Alder mysteries - where she's solving them? | | | |
ElicBxn (24693)
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3 years ago
| | there were implications that the tube was being built, because they talk about construction and mud and the like - it is possible that Watson was even writing "after the fact" so the events were actually happening a bit earlier than we knew, so the tube went fewer places and the phone was rarer or virtually non-existent. Who knows, Conan Doyle had issues... | | | |
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3. Hubfee (308)
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3 years ago
| | I never read the book and I don't really have the London Cabbie's Knowledge. My background knowledge about Sherlock Holmes was only he's is a genius detective but I can say that this movie is the best quality one. The movie's really good and give me more impression to Sherlock. The way they make the movie, I can say that even people who never know the name of Sherlock Holmes will like the movie and get impressed in him. Anyway I understand that the story in the book seems to be better than in the movie. That's what I heard from many people with many movies such as Harry Potter and Narnia. But I'm not really type of a book reader. Well, my point here is I think the movie's really good and I suggest you all to watch it. | | | | | | |
ShepherdSpy (4265)
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3 years ago
| | If You're going in to this Movie with just that knowledge about Holmes being A Detective with Genius deductive skills,You'll probably enjoy it.It also Fleshes out some of Holmes' Background-Watson refers to Holmes (In the books-Most of the original Holmes stories are from Watson's Perspective!) as being a capable fighter,and a Master of Disguise,among other skills.. | | | |
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4. sagnik42 (1574)
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3 years ago
| | I have not yet seen this movie but am pretty upbeat. I do not have time this week, so I think I will catch it next week. Keeping my fingers crossed. I have always liked the Sherlock Holmes stories. I am a great fan of the books. From the trailers it is apparent that there are a lot of action seens, unlike the books but I do not have a problem with that. They can differ as much as they want. I only want to see a good movie. I usually keep an open mind while watching movies and as a result end up liking most movies, even the Harry Potter ones. | | | | | | |
ShepherdSpy (4265)
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3 years ago
| | The story is a New one for this Movie,so you could say it's "Based" on the Sherlock Holmes Stories,with most of the Main Characters being recognisable as having Featured in the Books..The main differerence being "Irene Adler"'s prominence in the Movie,She only having appeared in One of the Stories,then disappeared,a "Wanted" Person.. | | | |
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5. agv0419 (2934)
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3 years ago
| | I haven't read the book but I know who is Sherlock Holmes I've seen the thriller and I think it is a good movie. I think the story is different from the book to make it more cinematic. I'm looking forward to watch it. | | | | | | |
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6. magic9 (758)
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3 years ago
| | I love it ! It's the best detective books I've read. And I watched the play online. the play is made wonderfully. In fact, the leading actor's image spring up in my mind as Shelock Holms as if he were the real Shelock. It's imporssilbe for me to get rid of that image for another acotor to act as Shelock. | | | | | | |
ShepherdSpy (4265)
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3 years ago
| | You'd be surprised how many actors have Portrayed Holmes in Movie and TV Productions,never mind stage productions! | | | |
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7. jlamela (3840)
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3 years ago
| | I haven't seen this film yet but I am planning to watch this on theater because I loved Sherlock Holmes, it's a great story based on the book so I am looking forward to watch this film soon. I will try to find out your observation in the film too but i doubt if I can comment wonderfully like your observation.hehe | | | | | | |
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8. sender621 (12069)
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3 years ago
| | I am a devoted Robert Downey jr fan. I can not wait to see him as Sherlock Holmes. I am sure he will own this movie with his talent. | | | | | | |
ShepherdSpy (4265)
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3 years ago
| | I think Downey put in a good performance,giving Holmes a very Human portrayal,even letting it be seen that "The Great Detective" can make mistakes at times..Hope you enjoyed the Movie! (Me,I'm looking forward to seeing him in "Iron Man 2" as well..) | | | |
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9. TrvlArrngr (2891)
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3 years ago
| | My 15 year old son went to see it with his friend and they said it was good. It kept them interested. | | | | | | |
ShepherdSpy (4265)
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3 years ago
| | It wouldn't be your thing? I take it You didn't go with them? | | | |
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10. snowdoll487 (2965)
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3 years ago
| | Haven't seen it.. but seen the thriller.. seems like a comedy-suspense movie.. but since its sherlock holmes.. i will definitely watch it.. :) | | | | | | |
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