Do you believe in the second coming of Christ?  |
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| Hello everyone! i am just wondering if the coming of Christ is referring to a physical or a spiritual coming. What are your views and opinions regarding this matter. As far as i know, it depends on how individual accepts and reacts to this kind of interpretation still others depend on how the church explained to them and so as the bible. | | | | | |
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1. mjcookie (1062)
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2 years ago
| | The truth is only found in the Bible. Human interpretation is not accurate. | | | | | | |
coolcoder (2038)
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2 years ago
| | A lot of people can see the same Scriptural truth in the Bible and interpret it in different ways. How do you know which interpretation is correct? The Bible can't interpret itself, there has to be human authority to interpret it. In my case, this authority comes from the Magisterium of the Catholic Church. | | | |
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Java09 (1633)
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2 years ago
| | You can't have humans interpret the bible for you.You have to read the bible and let the bible interpret itself,that's how you'll truly get a correct meaning.I learned to do that myself and now I understand the bible alot better.I used to be confused because I allow others to help me,and it don't work that way. | | | |
cassije74 (123)
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2 years ago
| | yeah right, i seconded... human are subject to errors ... i better rely on the holy spirit which is freely given instantly by God. | | | |
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2. LifeGuru (595)
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2 years ago
| | The bible portrays the world to be a small place, but it's much much bigger now with billions of people. If there was a 'second coming of Christ,' some nonchristians would probably not believe in that. You've got your Buddhists, Hindu, Muslims, Jewish, Jahova's Witnesses, Satanists, Wiccans, etc. And not all of them believe in the Christianity stuff, like sure they heard of it... But they'll be sticking to their own beliefs till there is actual evidence that the guy who will be claiming themselves as the 'second Christ' is the real deal. If I walked into a church one day and - hypothetically speaking.. I said, "I'm the anti-christ." People would look at me like I'm some kind of crazy person and laugh about it, till I start using some supernatural powers beyond human control - it sounds all too fictional for people. I'm a believer in God, but I never stuck to one faith although I kept the Catholicism dominant to the rest to have a better understanding of how people portray the world using their own faiths. And yes, it all depends on how an individual accepts and reacts to that interpretation. But think of it... One guy, or perhaps girl - who knows what God will choose for the person as the "second Christ" will lead billions? Do you think that they'll all listen? Some of them if they're hardcore believers in that particular religion, and the other half... >>;; They'll be very skeptical and doubt it and think they're insane and probably have them locked up in some asylum or something till they can work their miracles to pull off a 'Houdini' to get out of there. Some people might think it's a threat to their religion because of hundreds of years are put into what they've got and soon some people are converting? From what I know I see God can pull of Armageddon any day and I don't believe in that 2012 stuff since some things in life are just inevitable. That's why people should just enjoy their life, make use of their time, and live each day like it's their last. Since each day is a given gift. People are just lucky to wake up every day and embrace the morning, some? Not all that lucky if you catch my drift. But yeah, it's up to people to decide what they want to believe instead of having others force one thing upon them to make them believe, because it's their right to choose what they want and accept. That's why there was so much controversy when missionaries did not help cure the sick instead some of them in the 1500 - 1600s in history would force religion upon some native people and use some torture to some people and read bibles instead of help treat them which wasn't the right thing to do at all. Nor is the ones with pagans vs christians in ancient Rome. Neither of the two are any different to each other with their ways of treatment to the other religion. It's an all out battle of faith! Sometimes I see religion as a way to make people more civilized and try to have a better understanding of the world so there won't be so much anarchy. If Jesus where to come as human form, there's going to be another virgin birth although that theory is highly explainable through a scientific theory, but not a proven fact. With so much skepticism in the world with the whys, whos, what ifs, whens, buts, etc. Who knows what's gunna happen right? If the Christ thing does, then so be it. | | | | | | |
Java09 (1633)
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2 years ago
| | The Bible is evident enough for me.You have to interpret the bible yourself and not allow others to do it.That way you can see for yourself the true meanbing of it.He is coming again .Jesus promised he is,and Jesus isn't a liar.It's all in the bible.People just become confuesd because of all these4 different religions.As for the religions I feel they all can't be right?I believe we'll find the real truth out at Jesus second coming.I don't expect you to believe it.Everyone will have a chance,I'll leave it at that. | | | |
cassije74 (123)
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2 years ago
| | hello!! i am very impressed to each individuals opinion and comments, One thing i noticed now is that we commonly read the Bible. Well, for me too, i think religions need to take extra care of people inside the community... so as not to mislead and misguided everyone. There is no such thing as reliable source of person because we are only humans therefore we are subject to errors. I therefore, seek the Holy Spirit for He is the PERFECT and instant. | | | |
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3. cristobert (254)
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2 years ago
| | Christ was physically present in this world, died on the cross near Jerusalem and rose from the dead and physically presented himself to his own several times after his resurrection. He physically ascended into Heaven and will come back Physically. | | | | | | |
cassije74 (123)
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2 years ago
| | Yes cristobert, if that is what you believe in... to believe which is against your faith does not justify for you. Stick to what you think is right because the Holy spirit is the one who is guiding all of us... | | | |
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4. p3ks626 (4142)
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2 years ago
| | We believe in the second coming of Christ. It was clearly stated in the scriptures that He will be coming back. Nobody on earth knows when He will come back but only Him and the Father know. I believe that there would be signs and wonders of his coming and I think these signs are even happening now. | | | | | | |
Java09 (1633)
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2 years ago
| | You're right about that.You can only go by the signs of the end time prophecy,and Isee it going on now.I have to say I'm excited for him to come back.I do hate the way the world is.Jesus says you're not supposed to love this world,and I definately don't. | | | |
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p3ks626 (4142)
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2 years ago
| | Its a good thing that we are excited to see Him and not really afraid of his coming. I just think that we need to prepare ourselves spiritually for us to be able to look at Him in the eye and tell Him that we did our best while we were on Earth. | | | |
cassije74 (123)
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2 years ago
| | Exactly right, in order to be ready at all times we should accept God with all our hearts and spirit. Only in spirit we can communicare in Him because he has put HIs holy spirit to renew our lives. | | | |
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5. magtibaygom (3626)
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2 years ago
| | YES! Big YES! As a Seventh-Day Adventist Christian, I truly believe in the Second Coming of Jesus. We also call it, the Second "Advent" of Jesus. You can find the truth in the Bible, especially if you read the books of Daniel and Revelation. Jesus promised He will come again and will receive us, and he also told of the signs that His coming is nearing. The signs are now fulfilling. In the last days of this earth, there will be false Jesus that will claim they have returned, and there will be also false prophets who will predict of His exact return. We, SDA's are advised not to predict exact dates of His coming. Just wait and be ready for His return. :) | | | | | | |
Java09 (1633)
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2 years ago
| | I didn't know you're an adventist.I did worship with them for awhile.I believe in the seventhday sabbath,but I disagreed with a few of their doctrines so I stopped going.I do know I'm excited for Jesus' second coming.I hate this world the way it is,so he needs to come soon for us. | | | |
magtibaygom (3626)
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2 years ago
| | Yes, we hate this world the way it is. It is still beautiful and opportunities abound, but as we can see, it is already an aging world with its tectonic plates moving restless, skies already destroyed resulting to global warming, and the people becoming more evil for personal gain... Jesus must come as soon as possible to end these awful things and renew the earth.. Other people will disagree... Okay... This is my belief.. Other doctrines are not acceptable to me.. like the doctrine of the mainstream Church.. like dead people's soul going directly straight to heaven or hell after death, and God leaving the sufferings on this earth to exist like this forever.. I'd like to ask other people here who believe in the world's mainstream doctrine, those who believe in "life after death", those who believe in "purgatory".. is this okay for you? Are you okay with "No second coming, dead people's souls going straightly to heaven, purgatory, or hell, or reincarnated after death leaving the world behind, and God leaving this world as it is and sufferings to continue forever? Are you okay with this? Me, not okay.. | | | |
magtibaygom (3626)
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2 years ago
| | I know this is a sensitive issue because this touches religion, I'd like to ask, "Have you evaluated your doctrines?". I just wonder what will be happen to this world if this kind of world continue to exist forever... In my understanding, the doctrine of life after death strongly opposes the doctrine of second coming. If we people, when we die, go straightly to purgatory, and after some cleansing or investigation, some go to heaven while others go the other way to hell, this really disregard the need for Christ second coming. It's like saying "There is no need for second coming, we don't need Christ second coming anymore, because we can go directly to heaven when we die"... "those who are left behind still living in earth, wait for your turn (wait for your death) to experience heaven!" .. and sorry for the ailing earth, it will continue ail and suffer forever :-\ | | | |
cassije74 (123)
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2 years ago
| | Thanks for all of your opinion and comments, all of us has its own views of life base on different prospect of interpretation. Others rely on science, some on facts and experiences while other rely on the bible as the most scriptured and the rest are just following others.That is why, we never be united if we continue to inject every believers what we believe in ourselves. God doesn't want that way... instead He wants us to love one another because that is the most and greatest gift of all. For me, i dont rely on everyone else, But for the HOLY SPIRIT which is the only reason that Jesus Christ died for us, so that God can send His Holy Spirit to all of us.And that is His NEW covenant and already fulfilled through death of Jesus without HIS death God will not send his Spirit to us because of his LOVE no human being are worthy enough to be a savior of all but only his devoted Son. If we rely on our church teachings, we can never be united because every church has its own way of serving the Lord where in fact contradicts to other church areas. Church is not perfect because the people inside the church is not perfect too. Only the HOLY Spirit is the key to answer because He is the only Perfect of all. GOD is a universal God whatever you are and whenever you might be or Whoever we are... still HE is right there for us everytime just continue pursuing and believing.. | | | |
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6. barehugs (5856)
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2 years ago
| | I don't believe in the first coming of Christ, (to say nothing of the second coming) There has been intense interest by Church and Science for hundreds of years, in searching for physical proof of the life of Jesus. There have been countless hundreds of digs by Archeologists, and investigations by Scientists, of sources of information such as the finding of the Dead Sea Scrolls. Over the centuries not one iota of physical proof has ever been found. No writings in the Dead Sea Scrolls even mentioned Jesus existence in the land of Palestine. If Jesus really did live, God is keeping it very quiet! | | | | | | |
magtibaygom (3626)
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2 years ago
| | You doubt the first advent of Jesus? Why? Are the "New Testaments" books compiled in the Bible not enough to convince you? Are the content of the books, from Genesis to Revelation, not enough to convince you? The content of the Bible is coherent with the world history. If you are well-versed with "World History", why is it the Bible is coherent with World History when the writers were not related to each other?! Are those things not enough to convince you? If you don't believe in Christ 1st and 2nd advent, it also means you don't believe in the Bible too. If you doubt the credibility of the Bible, how come all the writers of the Bible jived with their writings? One writer existed many years before another writer existed .. How come their writings jived?! With the coherence of all the books of the Bible, this a "clear scientific evidence" to me!:) | | | |
cassije74 (123)
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2 years ago
| | Hi barehugs, you really are a reader! thanks for sharing your opinion too. I guess, "To see is to believe" is what you are leading into. Well, there is nothing wrong with it in order not to mislead and diverted. I know you also believe in God just continue on having faith with Him that is all that matters. | | | |
barehugs (5856)
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2 years ago
| | Thanks cassije, for your Vote of Confidence! | | | |
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7. awapak (611)
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2 years ago
| | ..WHAT THE FINAL PROPHET MUHAMMAD(PBUH)PREDICTED ABOUT THE SECOND COMING OF JESUS?... Yes,Islam gives a unique concept of his second coming.It is a fact that he never died on the cross rather God Almighty had saved him by lifting him up to heaven.He is still alive in heaven and is waiting for the divine orders to come back to this earth.This event will take place when the Jews and the Christians will make life of Muslims miserable,therefore Jesus(pbuh)will land at Damascuc,Syria in Muslims this time.He will break the cross(to refute his death on cross) and kill the pig(to prohibit pork).He will also refuse to be a God or son of God.He will unite all the Believers in Islam to fight a war against the last Antichrist who will be killed by Jesus in Israel.We,the Muslims, will give all our loves and lives to him but will never leave him alone like his old followers.After wiping out all followers of Antichrist,Jesus will establish the first IDEAL WORLD STATE on this earth to fill it with unprecedented peace,prosperity and justice.This will be the time when mass conversions will be made to Islam and it will enter in every house,village,town,city and continent.He will live for 7 years and then die natural death to be buried along with the final Prophet Muhammad(pbuh)at Madina,Saudi Arabia. This is the most authenticated information about his second coming as it is based on the prophetic predictions......and this is what going to happen in future..... Why Christians do not join hands with us to receive him jointly ?? | | | | | | |
Java09 (1633)
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2 years ago
| | I'm not a muslim but I do believe in Christs second coming.I do believe in the end of the age there will be an antichrist that fools everyone into believe he is of God,and some will fall for it and follow him.I'm a christian ,but I do not hate any muslims.I believe we should love everyone.Jesus was here spreading God's love,He does not want us to hate. | | | |
awapak (611)
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2 years ago
| | Thanks for responding and sharing your nice sentiments.We certainly love Prophet Jesus(pbuh)and feel honored to lay our lives on his orders when he will come to us...Unfortunately we are still not recognizing his hidden enemies who will support the last Antichrist against him....... | | | |
cassije74 (123)
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2 years ago
| | Hi! i am curious about what other religions are up into. Muslims are not a small but large areas of believers too. But they also believe in Jesus hah! All i can say is that, God is a universal God though relgions are many but i think all of them are teaching the good ways and serving the Lord in their own ways too. There is only two directions which is one to the LORD and the other to DESTRUCTION. and only two answers which is "YES" or "NO" anything else is not with GOD. A tree has only one trunk but with many branches and twigs. | | | |
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8. suspenseful (19613)
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2 years ago
| | Jesus Christ will return in a physical form, but it will be a physical form that is indestructible and no longer subject to decay. If one reads the Bible, one can see that HE ascended into the clouds in his physical immortal form and HE will return the same way. That way it will to the unbelievers when HE comes that it is not some trick, as it would be if HE came just in a spiritual form since normal man cannot see spiritual forms. | | | | | | |
cassije74 (123)
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2 years ago
| | Hi! thanks for your opinion. I also read the bible and comes to think the same way too. on the other hand, Spirit form can also be an another way because God can communicate us with his holy spirit. That is why he is sending it to us. | | | |
suspenseful (19613)
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2 years ago
| | God speaks to us through HIS Holy Spirit that gives us the strength to resist evil and to keep from doing things that God does not want us to do. It is not like a phantasm that appears in front of us ala Harry Potter or a voice that appears in our heads and says "Thou should not worry too much." It is in our hearts now so we lose interest in doing those things that we wanted to do before. I guess that is what they call the still small voice. But when HE comes in HIS glory it will be a physical form as well as the spiritual form together. Only the physical form will no longer be subject to decay. | | | |
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| 9. tpaz11 (61)
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2 years ago
| | I feel that Christ will come back to the living when it is the time for humans to be jugded, better known as judgement day. I feel that he will come back to try and save us before being judged by God. | | | | | | |
cassije74 (123)
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2 years ago
| | Hi! thanks for your opinion too. Everyone are always right in our opinion and ideas because that is ours. We just want that during that judgment we can stand with our head eyes on God and no guilt feeling left behind. | | | |
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10. yoursjannat (445)
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2 years ago
| | Logically if you give up faith from any of the statements from Bible,you have to give up faith from the whole Bible.The point is how the statement should be interpreted.Just think about the consequences that would have happened if Jesus hadn't returned.It will lead you to the answer,I believe. | | | | | | |
cassije74 (123)
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2 years ago
| | yah, right. I believe in the bible too. It is just like a compilation of true stories during the times we are not there to witness the true events of the situations. To seek for the truth is our nature way since we are capable of having senses and thinking. To seek for spiritual truth is another way of expressing. | | | |
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