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myLot reputation of 78/100. debrakcarey (2673)   ranked 94 out of 4,279 in thinker 2 years ago

By VALERIE BAUMAN, Associated Press Writer Valerie Bauman, Associated Press Writer – Tue Apr 6, 6:26 pm ET
ALBANY, N.Y. – They've been called Oreos, traitors and Uncle Toms, and are used to having to defend their values. Now black conservatives are really taking heat for their involvement in the mostly white tea party movement — and for having the audacity to oppose the policies of the nation's first black president.

"I've been told I hate myself. I've been called an Uncle Tom. I've been told I'm a spook at the door," said Timothy F. Johnson, chairman of the Frederick Douglass Foundation, a group of black conservatives who support free market principles and limited government.

"Black Republicans find themselves always having to prove who they are. Because the assumption is the Republican Party is for whites and the Democratic Party is for blacks," he said.

Johnson and other black conservatives say they were drawn to the tea party movement because of what they consider its commonsense fiscal values of controlled spending, less taxes and smaller government. The fact that they're black — or that most tea partyers are white — should have nothing to do with it, they say.

"You have to be honest and true to yourself. What am I supposed to do, vote Democratic just to be popular? Just to fit in?" asked Clifton Bazar, a 45-year-old New Jersey freelance photographer and conservative blogger.

Opponents have branded the tea party as a group of racists hiding behind economic concerns — and reports that some tea partyers were lobbing racist slurs at black congressmen during last month's heated health care vote give them ammunition.

But these black conservatives don't consider racism representative of the movement as a whole — or race a reason to support it.

Angela McGlowan, a black congressional candidate from Mississippi, said her tea party involvement is "not about a black or white issue."

"It's not even about Republican or Democrat, from my standpoint," she told The Associated Press. "All of us are taxed too much."

Still, she's in the minority. As a nascent grassroots movement with no registration or formal structure, there are no racial demographics available for the tea party movement; it's believed to include only a small number of blacks and Hispanics.

Some black conservatives credit President Barack Obama's election — and their distaste for his policies — with inspiring them and motivating dozens of black Republicans to plan political runs in November.

For black candidates like McGlowan, tea party events are a way to reach out to voters of all races with her conservative message.

"I'm so proud to be a part of this movement! I want to tell you that a lot of people underestimate you guys," the former national political commentator for Fox News told the cheering crowd at a tea party rally in Nashville, Tenn., in February.

Tea party voters represent a new model for these black conservatives — away from the black, liberal Democratic base located primarily in cities, and toward a black and white conservative base that extends into the suburbs.

Black voters have overwhelmingly backed Democratic candidates, support that has only grown in recent years. In 2004, presidential candidate Sen. John Kerry won 88 percent of the black vote; four years later, 95 percent of black voters cast ballots for Obama.

Black conservatives don't want to have to apologize for their divergent views.


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So what do YOU think? The liberals are fond of saying their for MINORITIES....I wonder why not this one?

 

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1. myLot reputation of 83/100. egdcltd (1110)   ranked 1,359 out of 4,279 in thinker   2 years ago

As a complete outsider, it seems weird that blacks are expected to be Democrat, rather than Republican. After all, the Republican party was founded by Abraham Lincoln.


myLot reputation of 78/100. debrakcarey (2673)   ranked 94 out of 4,279 in thinker  2 years ago

I've tried the historical approach, they're not hearing it. History has been so twisted in our school's textbooks people don't believe what you tell them about it anyway. Slick move on their part...two generations who haven't a clue as to what they're giving up by electing these people to power.


myLot reputation of 83/100. egdcltd (1110)   ranked 1,359 out of 4,279 in thinker  2 years ago

Pretty worrying when someone native to a different country knows more than the average native about a really important part of your countries' history.

Also, saying that people should vote/support someone because of their skin colour is pretty insulting. Both to the people doing the supporting - you're so shallow that you can't judge a persons worth other than by their colour - and the person they are "supposed" to support - you're policies are so worthless that the only thing we should judge you on is your colour.


myLot reputation of 78/100. debrakcarey (2673)   ranked 94 out of 4,279 in thinker  2 years ago

How do you mean 'you're'? Me personally? Or Americans in general?

I do not agree with the current administration in all respects. I am not a liberal, and the rest of the citizenry of America is fast becomming skeptical of the current liberal administration and Congress as well. They're recognizing the blantant socialization of our government and do not care for it.
Americans are waking up to what has been going on for the last forty years, from the dumbing down of our schools, to the liberals agenda to destroy our Constitution.


myLot reputation of 83/100. egdcltd (1110)   ranked 1,359 out of 4,279 in thinker  2 years ago

It's a generalisation - and therefore inaccurate in many cases - but I do find the general downward trend in the standards of education in many western countries to be particularly disturbing. An ignorant populace tends not to complain about their lot.

I've often read comments about Obama being a liberal. To me, as a foreigner, he doesn't seem liberal, he seems socialist. I guess calling himself a socialist would not be a good career move.


myLot reputation of 78/100. debrakcarey (2673)   ranked 94 out of 4,279 in thinker  2 years ago

In our culture, liberal and socialist go hand in hand. I am not familiar with European or Asian and African politics. I do not know how they label their political parties. I do know that Socialism has failed all over the globe and yet here we are...


myLot reputation of 83/100. egdcltd (1110)   ranked 1,359 out of 4,279 in thinker  2 years ago

I'm not really sure that my definition of liberal is that standard, it's a bit old fashioned. However, in the UK, we have three main parties, Labour - theoretically socialist, Conservative - theoretically right-wing and the Liberal-Democrats, who are more middle of the road and, as you can tell from the name, theoretically Liberal.

I think in the US, any party that called itself socialist wouldn't get anywhere. So, they don't. Politicians lying, now there's a novelty.


myLot reputation of 78/100. debrakcarey (2673)   ranked 94 out of 4,279 in thinker  2 years ago

That's the trouble, they deny being socialists. And the gullible believe them. There is so much name calling going on it is difficult to sort out what the political ideologies of the speakers really are.

I read a book call Sinisterism. Forgot the auther...google it and read it. It surmises that labels don't mean a thing in this climate. They ALL are not to be trusted.


myLot reputation of 83/100. egdcltd (1110)   ranked 1,359 out of 4,279 in thinker  2 years ago

We're going to have an election next month, and the parties are all publishing their manifestos. I've only heard snippets, but even the supposedly right wing Conservatives have an element of socialism in their plans. The problem is, once you start giving stuff away, you can't stop. Bread and circuses the Romans called it.

I shall actually be voting in this election, but against Labour rather than for anybody. It's too dangerous to allow Labour another five years in office. It may already be too late to turn back from the road to a police state they've sent us down.

Incidentally, I have considered the current Labour (left wing) party to be more than somewhat fascist in their views. This is supported by the fact that when Labour lost a lot of support recently, quite a bit of it went to the British Nationalist Party. Who can trace their origins back to Oswald Mosley and the British Union of Fascists - who, as you probably haven't heard of them, thought Hitler was on to a good thing.


myLot reputation of 78/100. debrakcarey (2673)   ranked 94 out of 4,279 in thinker  2 years ago

If you are going to level the playing field, you need a big stick. That's what people forget...if government can tell us we have to buy insurance for our cars and now our health, perhaps we should wonder what next...if someone could be put in jail for not having insurance...and don't tell me it won't happen...people go to jail for not having car insurance all the time....they can put us in jail for anything.


myLot reputation of 83/100. egdcltd (1110)   ranked 1,359 out of 4,279 in thinker  2 years ago

The UK, over our current Glorious Leader and his Glorious Predecessor, have significantly advanced up the police state rankings. Governments tell us that the innocent have nothing to fear from the law, which is one of the stupidest statements ever.

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2. myLot reputation of 97/100. dragon54u (15683)   ranked 456 out of 4,279 in thinker   2 years ago

I don't understand why our black citizens are so pro-democrat. Detroit has been dominated by democrats for decades and they have 50% unemployment. Everywhere democrats have the upper hand, the working people suffer. Republicans make up less than 50% of the Tea Party demographics.

I empathize with those people you quoted. It's tough to be an outcast and a target of vitriol, even violence, because of your beliefs. But because of people like that, Americans are waking up and realizing we're about to lose our country. God bless them, and I hope their influence spreads far and wide.

Remember that woman that we heard so often saying she wouldn't have to worry about her mortgage or putting gas in her car? I wonder how she's doing now?


myLot reputation of 78/100. debrakcarey (2673)   ranked 94 out of 4,279 in thinker  2 years ago

I've lost track being offline for three whole months of all that is going on. Our small town newspaper and Springfield, MO news stations don't provide much national news. Not to mention I've also been without satellite TV and don't get FOX anymore. But I do listen to the radio when in the car, so I am trying to catch up with all that is happening. It was sorta nice to be out of the loop for awhile. Much less stress on the old nervous system. lol

You are correct in your assessment of what happens whem Dems are in control. I live in the Ozarks of Missouri and the population is really discontent and most of them are poor and were long time Democrats. There's a lot of talk of voting them all out, or voting Independent. Ron Paul's name is mentioned alot.

I've gotten use to being the hated or despised conservative. I also have resigned myself to being put down for being a believer in God and calling myself by the name Christian. I consider it an honor to be an outcast when the ruling elite are who they are. I am proud not to be identify with there policies and platforms. I see many who may not agree on all conservative issues, but who are willing to tolerate minor differences to get America back from those trying to destroy her.

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3. myLot reputation of 86/100. laglen (7665)   ranked 255 out of 4,279 in thinker   2 years ago

wow, so in the spirit of abolishing racism, blacks should NOT agree with conservatives. They should not believe in and practice personal responsibility. They should expect the government to feed, house, clothe and provide medical treatment. Hhmmm sounds suspiciously like slavery.....


myLot reputation of 78/100. debrakcarey (2673)   ranked 94 out of 4,279 in thinker  2 years ago

They are called Uncle Toms for not backing Massa in the big White House....which is how I see it. Do as I say without using your mind, cause I own you. I admire ANYONE who can stand up and think for themselves. It seems it is a rare commodity these days.


myLot reputation of 86/100. laglen (7665)   ranked 255 out of 4,279 in thinker  2 years ago

a rare commodity indeed! I hope more people educate themselves and start voting your brain!

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4. myLot reputation of 96/100. dawnald (24270)   ranked 43 out of 4,279 in thinker   2 years ago

If anything, it's a sign of progress in this country when people feel they can vote their beliefs regardless of race, etc.


myLot reputation of 78/100. debrakcarey (2673)   ranked 94 out of 4,279 in thinker  2 years ago

Then why are so called progressive Democrats so upset by this?


myLot reputation of 96/100. dawnald (24270)   ranked 43 out of 4,279 in thinker  2 years ago

I can only speak for myself, and it doesn't bother me at all. As for anybody else, well maybe some Democrats think the black vote belongs to them or something.


myLot reputation of 78/100. debrakcarey (2673)   ranked 94 out of 4,279 in thinker  2 years ago

Then let your Democratic representatives and Congress person know how you feel!

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5. myLot reputation of 49/100. Destiny007 (4866)   ranked 985 out of 4,279 in thinker   2 years ago

The Liberals say that they are for the minorities simply because it is politically expedient.

The Liberals only care about power and control over the people, and anyone who opposes that ideology is either a racist or a traitor to their race.

The Liberals are responsible for keeping the minorities and poor down by promoting the Entitlement Mentality and by pushing class warfare.

Taxing the rich to benefit the poor, punishing the hardworking and successful to benefit the lazy and non-productive is counterproductive and harms us all.

If we make it harder for business to survive and be profitable, then we make it harder to generate jobs for everyone.

Socialism is not the answer, and America did not become the envy of the world by using the Socialist model... we got that way through hard work, innovation, and capitalism, and by giving everyone an equal chance for success.

The opposite of Capitalism is Communism, and Socialism is the transitional phase between the two.

In short, the liberals are not for the minorities at all... and they will do anything required to advance their cause.


myLot reputation of 78/100. debrakcarey (2673)   ranked 94 out of 4,279 in thinker  2 years ago

They're hypocrits (Democrats) to say they want choice for minorities and then when minorities choose for themselves, they're called names and marginalized by those who supposedly are the "only" ones on their side, the Democratic liberals. If this doesn't prove that they're liars I don't know how else to prove it!

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6. myLot reputation of 76/100. DavidReedy (1739)   ranked 2,301 out of 4,279 in thinker   2 years ago

Great article... I Love the closing question "liberals..fond of saying their for minorities... why not this one".... Love it.
DR...


myLot reputation of 78/100. debrakcarey (2673)   ranked 94 out of 4,279 in thinker  2 years ago

happy I am glad you found it of interest David.

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