Is Obama setting black folks back?  

Ok, but the point is he sunk us deeper into debt in one year then Bush did in 8. The bail outs where a joke played on the American people with their own money as though it where a Monopoly game and the children of our children will still be trying to pay it off when we are all gone. As for inheriting disaster let's face each President inherits something bad. Nothing is ever perfect it's what you do when you get in that makes a difference, that's why so many on all sides are upset with Obama he just isn't cutting it.

As for if we are doing better I think that may be one of those things that is different do to ratios. I find it hard to believe that the change in ratio status hasn't change the perceptions. Let's face it there are many more million and billionaires on those statistics now then ever before. Why? Well look how Hollywood has grown, look at the computer biz, and even the government themselves who are making a higher percentage now then ever before, even seats that 20 yrs. ago where unpaid are now earning in the 6 digits. Perception I believe has changed drastically, yes.

You are incorrect in blaming Obama for all of our debt, and that which he has inherited. What many people don't understand is that Bush used the treasury like a credit card. He passed spending bill after spending bill, and never once paid for any of it, just like what many people do on their credit cards. Eventually, you have pay for the money that you spent, and that bill has come due. This is FACT, if you do some research you will see that this is what happened.

Look at the Reagan recession seriously and you will see that getting out of this should take a lot longer than two years. It took six years to fully get out of that, and that was nothing in comparison to the Bush repression. Yes people are making more money, but that has nothing to do with this discussion. The recent quarterly numbers out of Wall Street are pointing to people spending more, and buying more. This is a good sign for the economy, and is a step in the right direction.

President Alinsky has spent more in his first year that ALL OTHER PRESIDENTS SINCE THE FIRST--combined. So don't bother blaming the current debacle on any SINGLE previous President. Normal recessions come & go, no matter who's in the White House.

And anyway, please tell me where is it possible to borrow & spend one's way out of debt?! Never mind whether it's national or just one's own! WHERE? Explain, please, how that works! "Oh, Honey, I lost my job & I can't pay the mortgage--tell you what, now we have time to take that vacation, so let's borrow some dough from someplace, drive to Vegas & blow it! If we lose, the kids can pay it off!"

This "President" has no logic in him at all. Instead of passing out over a trillion dollars to receivers without any oversight, clear-set goals or even decent financial advice, he should've sliced spending & cut taxes, gotten out of the way & let the market recover, as it always does! Instead, he's caused millions to lose their jobs, countless companies to stop hiring, & even taken over numerous private institutions & industries. Bush never did that!!

The man is either a complete financial idiot, which belies his cleverness in a few other areas, OR...he's deliberately bankrupting our country. Them's the choices. Pick one, but don't pee on my shoe & tell me it's raining. Not when our grandchildren will be paying off HIS debt--oh, & since it worked SO well, he wants to do it again! Unbelievable.

"Bush's debt" would have been nearly gone soon, had not Nerobama put it on freakin' STEROIDS!

Maggiepie
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One I never said Bush wasn't part of the problem just that Obama took a tough situation and made it a million or should I say trillion dollars worth! Bush's decisions took 8 years to build up into that mess Obama has had less than two years and made it horribly worse. Oh and by the way the only people making more money are the bankers and creditors who got bail out money, our country has a higher rate of unemployment now then ever with Bush, more jobs lost in last year then all most all of Bushes reign. His new health care bill will put many a small business under and who will give those people jobs, who? I have never known so many people to be with out jobs and just because they are spending money on food (highest grown market) doesn't mean they have money it means they have food stamps of which gives more money per month to most families then they budget ever.

I wish people would stop blaming the situation he went into sooner then later, I mean they did with Bush eventually. He started out with the WTC day and everyone felt "poor Bush" until they realized that to strike back in spite was not a good strategy (something I am sure we all learned in Elementary school and forgot at the time). Not to mention when in a hard situation it is how you preform that is important. That said yes, it is sad but people will look for the easiest thing to blame the issues on be it color, affiliation or size of feet, it doesn't matter just something they don't have to back up in conversation.

I know that! But will other see it that way?

Everyone I know sees it that way. It's not about his race, but his policies, his lies & broken promises, & his tactics!

Maggiepie
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Unfortunately it is something I have heard but in truth and this is in by no means meant to be racist but it has been mostly Mexicans and other Hispanics that I have heard say this. I live in an area where race can be an issue at times but not many white folk have said anything. Now if that is do to the fact that it is taboo for whites to say things about other races but is not taboo for "minorities" to do so? That may be a very big part of it or maybe it's just how the others see it more. No clue. That said just because people say it's not going to happen doesn't mean it won't.

More then a few.

Incompetence that should read thank you

LMFAO, much of what he says makes sense on paper but what he does and what he says are two very different things. He made lots of promises that he has slithered around with his words, one reason so many of the poor people (all colors but a large amount of black ) who feel he used their predictions as a means to get their vote and then ignore them, (some people voted for him because he was black and feel that he sold them out, even people like Danny Glover have gotten up and publicly said this), it is a common game played by all politicians it's just that this time it seemed to be every group the man spoke to not just a few of them, but yes when you hear him talk he sounds great.

It doesn't matter, though he does seem to be the most incompetent president in MY lifetime (& that includes Jimmy "misery index" Carter!). I don't care what your media tell you, IT'S NOT ABOUT RACE! (Can you hear us now?? Yeesh!)

The sooner you get that, the sooner we can discuss this honestly.

Maggiepie
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I believe I was talking about lying in politics and yes I used a large group of mad people as an example and yes they used the race card which makes it partly about race. I didn't do that, they did. If a man gets up and says he lied to his black brothers and sisters he is making it partially about race. Is that all it's about, no. Really it was about him lying to the people, but as usual race was the easy thing to fall back on.

We should yes, but is that reality?

Why should we proud?

I hope I am wrong too.

Color does not matter but I think it is an easy thing to fall back on as a blaming point. Something that in conversation will not be asked to back up. If you throw out numbers and statistics people wan to know where you get them from.

Color does matter, Opi... If it doesn't, there wouldn't be racism. Color does matter, but not to everyone. There are still many people there and here and anywhere will prefer their own color.

and unfortunately there always be those people out there no matter what others want to think or say.

Yes, I agree.