Michelle Obama: Barack Obama is a Kenyan and America is too mean   

We are very well aware that the Media is controlled by the White House. There is no freedom of speech there but only print or say what is flattering to Oba-mao and has met with his approval.

Lakota, the born to 2 American parents is not corrrect according to the 14th. Amendment and the U.S. Code. As far as why anyone is dragging their feet...that is a very telling question. Why hasn't so much as one member of Congress called for an impeachment hearing? They alone have the power to force Obama to produce his personal information...much more power than some judge in some court in some state hearing a civil case. They alone have the power to impeach. Some will say that the Republicans couldn't get enough votes because the Democrats have the majority and others will say that it would be political suicide for anyone to try. But, not every member...and especially every Republican member...is eligible for re-election so why keep quiet? The only logical answer is because every member of Congress has seen the proof and is satisfied that Obama is a natural born citizen.

the news media is wrong they should praqctice more freedom of speach and not be bought out wish I had a station!!!!
ANd ghe 14th amendment is what I read when I had wrote that a prez needs 2 american born parents

The 14th Amendment defines citizenship this way: "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside." But even this does not get specific enough. As usual, the Constitution provides the framework for the law, but it is the law that fills in the gaps. The Constitution authorizes the Congress to do create clarifying legislation in Section 5 of the 14th Amendment; the Constitution, in Article 1, Section 8, Clause 4, also allows the Congress to create law regarding naturalization, which includes citizenship.

Currently, Title 8 of the U.S. Code fills in the gaps left by the Constitution. Section 1401 defines the following as people who are "citizens of the United States at birth:"

•Anyone born inside the United States *
•Any Indian or Eskimo born in the United States, provided being a citizen of the U.S. does not impair the person's status as a citizen of the tribe
•Any one born outside the United States, both of whose parents are citizens of the U.S., as long as one parent has lived in the U.S.
•Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year and the other parent is a U.S. national
•Any one born in a U.S. possession, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year
•Any one found in the U.S. under the age of five, whose parentage cannot be determined, as long as proof of non-citizenship is not provided by age 21
•Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is an alien and as long as the other parent is a citizen of the U.S. who lived in the U.S. for at least five years (with military and diplomatic service included in this time)
•A final, historical condition: a person born before 5/24/1934 of an alien father and a U.S. citizen mother who has lived in the U.S.
* There is an exception in the law — the person must be "subject to the jurisdiction" of the United States. This would exempt the child of a diplomat, for example, from this provision.

Anyone falling into these categories is considered natural-born, and is eligible to run for President or Vice President. These provisions allow the children of military families to be considered natural-born, for example.


Obama was born in the United States. :

http://www.usconstitution.net/consttop_citi.html

I do not blame the Military! Why should they obey orders given by a Commander-in-Chief who absolutely refuses to prove his eligibility to the satisfaction of the nation!

Prove his eligibility to the satisfaction of the nation? Would that be the majority of the nation or a small group? Where in the military code does it require the Commander-In-Chief to prove anything? He was sworn in as the president...he is the president unless and until he is impeached or voted out. Untl that time, every member of the military has the obligation to respect the authority of his office.

Spall I agree but if the President is not eligible, military men have the right to demand proof. I also know this is an old and boring conversation. But just think. Why would he continuously deflect the issue. Why would be spend SO MUCH money to keep from it. Also, think what it might mean to our country if there IS a problem with eligibility? I am not trying to change this discussion into a birth certificate discussion. I feel it up to the courts to decide now.

The courts do not have the authority to decide this issue which is why these cases keep getting thrown out. The reason Obama is spending so much money and not simply producing all of the documentation in question is because he's being sued. You never hand anything over to an adversary in a legal action, whether you're innocent or guilty. Just because they've made accusations does not mean that you lose your right to privacy and I know for a fact that not one person who believes that Obama should just cave would feel the same way if they were the person being sued.

As far as the military goes, laglen, according to my husband who is a veteran, military personnel do not have the right to demand proof that anyone in the chain of command is eligible to give an order. Think about it for a minute. Should soldiers in the field be able to question the authority of a lieutenant or captain who shows up and assumes command of the unit before following his orders? Do foot soldiers have the right to demand to see proof that he legitimately earned his rank? No, in the military you follow orders. If you believe that a superior is ordering you to do something illegal or immoral you do have the option of going over his head but to challange the legitimacy of his rank? Not by a long shot.

I believe it is an issue for the courts as it involves our Constitution. You make a VERY good point about the demand of proof by military

I don't agree. The issue is whether Obama is a natural born citizen and if a court found that he was not, then what? The court has no power to remove him from office...only Congress can do that. This is why I believe that there is no issue. Not one member of Congress has brought this to the floor for impeachment in over a year...not even hinted at it. Are they all in on it...or have they seen the proof the general public hasn't?

Good point and your right, the court can not remove him. But I do believe some Congress critters have brought it up.
http://www.politico.com/b...

LOL...Congress critters...I like that one.

I think the bill is a good idea because it will prevent any future controversy over a candidate's eligibility but it in no way suggests that the current president is not a natural born citizen.

Exactly. I find it crazy it wasnt already there. But, hey it has to be done sometime.

I (sadly) agree with you that what the people say or want does not matter.

What do I think? I think it is very definitely a real possibility. Now my big question is who is behind the whole idea and supporting this dastardly plot. Obvious the planning for this had to have started way back when Obama was being groomed as the Democratic Presidential Nominee. What better way to destroy a country than pitting us against each other.

A Nation Divided Cannot Stand
In 1858, Senatorial nominee Abraham Lincoln gave a speech at the Illinois Republican State Convention which has come to been known as "Lincoln's House Divided Speech." Lincoln took the phrase from the book of Matthew 12:25 "And Jesus knew their thoughts, and said unto them, Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and every city or house divided against itself shall not stand:

http://thefrontpages.blog...

I would say a financial mogul such as George Soros or the conglomeration of labor unions who would benefit from our financial chaos. But who knows? It could even be the brainchild of a foreign conglomerate who not only has the US in its sights but all countries with democratic or democratic republic governments.

Pretty darned scary!!!

Yes, to all of the above. So many of us have been saying this since before the sham "election". This is "jihad" the destruction of western civilization from within. That was the plan all along, since at least 2004, when the monster was installed as senator. Everything this monster does is suspect and is designed to destroy America in any and every way he can. Of course he is not "alone". Soros, Arab potentates, NWO creeps in high places, etc. are determined to "hoist us on our own pitard" by playing on American guilt, the liberal ploy of racism, the foolishness and gullibility of the many, the complacency and apathy of the same many, and any other falsehood they can apply to divide and destroy us. Chaos and death to freedom is the goal and, still, the many are "lead as sheep to slaughter".

OH NO! Here you go again! Actually I really do not care what your friends say. You are of absolutely no importance or interest to me. Especially as there are so many different ethnic and religious groups in Singapore. I am already aware of your slavish adoration of Obama from a previous response you have given to one of my my discussions.

For your education in the second link the Kenyan Ambassador specifically speaks of President Elect Barack Obama NOT his father the question was reiterated so there would be no misunderstanding.

Before you spout off with your opinion I suggest you listen to what is being said in the links.

I suppose in he was born in Kenya then he would fall under the following provision for being a Natural Born Citizen:
Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is an alien and as long as the other parent is a citizen of the U.S. who lived in the U.S. for at least five years (with military and diplomatic service included in this time).http://www.usconstitution.net/consttop_citi.html

If this is the case then I wonder what Obama is hiding with all the Hawaii controversy and the need to spend almost a million dollars on lawyers to cover up any questions regarding his birth? Could it be as was suggested by Washington State:
"If in fact Obama was born in Kenya, the laws on the books in the United States at the time of his birth stated if a child is born abroad and one parent was a U.S. Citizen, which would have been his mother, Stanley Ann Dunham, Obama's mother would have had to live ten (10) years in the United States, five (5) of which were after the age of fourteen (14). At the time of Obama's birth, his mother was only eighteen (18) and therefore did not meet the residency requirements under the law to give her son (Obama) U.S. Citizenship much less the status of 'natural born.'"

I do not see where Snopes has specifically rebutted this claim: http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/citizen.asp

oops typo should read ...after the age of sixteen (16) not fourteen (14) ...sorry.

He was born in Hawaii, his mother was american and his father was from Kenya going to school in Hawaii.

Birth certificate is Hawaian. Complete controversy is covered on Wikipedia.org

Secratary of the state of Hawaii has certified his birth. His birth was announced in the local papares and are online for anyone to see.

The secret servise has certified his birth, his college certified his birth, the government student loans he borrowed to go to school certified his birth. Are you suggesting that all these organizations plotted over the last 48 years to put a black man in the White House and knew that he would get elected?

TTCCWW, you've seen his college financial records? That's cool, cause no one else has, he's sealed them. Would you post them for us?

To be honest, I've heard so many different theories and stories that I don't know what to think. Common sense tells me that if we had anything to worry about that he would never have made it as far as the White House. I have to believe that he proved his eligibility to all the right people. I'm not a big huge fan of Obama but I have to believe that he is legit as far as being president. As to why his records are sealed, I have no idea. I suspect that at some point we'll all know for sure. The president does not HAVE to show us his birth certificate. The right people have seen it or he would not have gotten this far. I have to believe that.