Obama Amnesty?  

Maybe a good alternative is to send her to the UK!

She's contributed nothing? Obama's aunt has had a social security card since 2001 so I'm not sure what her employment history was before her injury, if any. What I do know is that she was not simply mooching off of society and contributing nothing before the media spotlight found her. She was a public health advocate on behalf of the Boston Housing Authority and also worked as a volunteer computer systems co-ordinator for a program in which adults over 55 mentor children in their communities.

wow amazing that she could do all that while being here illegally

Amazing that she could do all that at all while barely able to walk.

silly hofferp. Families do not take care of each other anymore it is up to government!

see above post. He will take care of her... with your money!

how does she qualify being illegal?

that is one thing I would LOVE to know....how she was in public housing and on public assistance when a judge had ordered her to leave the country and she didn't. She was here illegally...how did she qualify?

hhmm curiouser and curiouser....

I have come to the conclusion that everyone/everything who/that has a connection to Obama is extremely veiled and shrouded in secrecy. Never to be revealed to the American people.

No, but he probably talks to his buddy Hugo about stuff.

Instead of working on your kornspiracy theories, why not look it up? It's not a big secret.

honestly Spall, where is the fun in that? Knowledge is a very dangerous thing....

I know! That's why I have my Dangerous Dan decoder ring handy at all times.

wow cool, where could I score one of those?

You have to save 97 boxtops from some really sugary cereal that'll rot your teeth to the nubs. Fortunately, I got it while I still had my baby teeth.

thats funny... I didnt see it advertised. 97 boxtops eh? thats a lot of sugar cereal.... got any extra?

No, they stopped making that cereal a long time ago when folks started to notice that dentists were all driving Jags and kids had rotten teeth.

damn more dentists on the unemployment rolls.

The Mad Obama Disease (also known as MOD)

Do you really, really think that the judge hearing this case wanted to send a handicapped, 58 year old woman who is related to the president of the united states back to that hellhole of a country? Every warlord and his brother would be planning her kidnapping in the hopes of a big payday at her expense. That's common sense. She's known...not unknown.

I agree silly, didnt I say he DID have something to do with it. Even if he didnt say, "give her amnesty" he had something to do with it, just who he is...

So, he's guilty even if he didn't do anything?

My stepson is like that...

lmao I dont think it is a matter of guilt. It is what it is. Like you said, they would not deport her. A very BIG reason for that is her ties to Obama.

Yep, we agree on that. I just don't agree that Obama and/or the White House played an active role in anything. There wasn't any pressure...nothing corrupt...she is who she is, a close relative of a sitting president.

spall, spall, spall why are you arguing when that is what said?
Here is my original post
I realize it says that Obama and the White House did not help. But really would you want to be the judge that sends the disabled Aunt of the President out of the country? And if she is here illegally, why in the hell are tax payers paying for her housing?

laglen when sillidino gets on one of her .."I am right by God and no matter what I say even if I am completely confused" kicks you just have to ignore her. Also ignore her when she starts to throw insults around.

That is tooo funny, whitewash!

You insult my honorable Italian name while complaining about me throwing insults around. M'kay.

ya had to open that can did ya?

It wouldn't be me if I didn't, would it? Still, in self defense, I must say, that can was opened long ago, & millions of people have looked through all the worms...& found the dirt is true.



Maggiepie
"No man's life, liberty, or property is safe while the legislature is in session." ~ Mark Twain 1866

so true, so true... hey nice signature!

Millions of people...except for the very ones who have the power to prove Obama was not born in Hawaii and to remove him from office. That would be the members of congress. Yet not a peep out of any of them for over a year. Why do you think that is? I find it curiouser and curiouser.

LAGLEN: Glad you like it; I pinched it from a pal! Here's one you may find nearly as droll...

Maggiepie
"Do Not Play this Primary Night Drinking Game: 'It's Not a Referendum on Obama.' If you do a shot whenever the media pushes this spin, you'll die of alcohol poisoning." ~ Rush Limbaugh

SPALLADINO: Only thing I can come up with is...they're cowards! Look at the names people are called who've done the research to find all the facts. How many Congressmen have you seen lately with a spine?

Maggiepie
"Do Not Play this Primary Night Drinking Game: 'It's Not a Referendum on Obama.' If you do a shot whenever the media pushes this spin, you'll die of alcohol poisoning." ~ Rush Limbaugh

Well, that's a pretty simplistic way of looking at it. Each and every member of the Senate and the House...even the ones who are serving their last terms and are planning to retire...are cowards? What could they be afraid of...being called names? They're called names allll the time. Does this also mean that all of these new members of congress who are being voted in to save the country will also be considered spineless if they don't jump on this sinking ship of a kornspiracy?

Maggie - I should have played that!!
Spall -
Rep. Nathan Deal, R-Ga., said, "I think the best way to do it is produce the birth certificate and let that be the end of it."
U.S. Rep. Roy Blunt, R-Mo., added, "What I don't know is why the president cannot produce a birth certificate. I don't know anyone else who can't produce one. I think that's a legitimate question."
Rep. Bill Posey, R-Ga., has introduced a measure in Congress that would require future presidential candidates to document their eligibility, and about a dozen other members of Congress have signed on as co-sponsors

Ding...ding...ding...school is in session again!

Both Rep. Deal and Blunt know very well what the procedure is when one is defending a lawsuit so their statements are nothing but spin. The legislation regarding future candidates is a good one and I hope it passes so that we don't have to deal with this in the future.

In the meantime, I continue to wonder why these fine gentlemen don't bring this matter to the floor of the Senate and press for a vote to turn it over to the judicial committee. In this way Obama would be compelled to turn over the documents in question to the committee...the skanky lawyers wouldn't be able to get their grubby hands on them...and the committee would either have evidence to impeach or to clear him. Simple. In my opinion, no one is willing to do more than offer constituent placating soundbites because they have already seen the proof but they're bound by ethics to keep that information private.

spall, you may very well be right. If it isnt his country of birth he is hiding then what?

Oooookaaaay, Spall. You are right. I am always wrong. I know nothing, & I'm too stoopit to learn anything. Socialism is jim dandy for everyone, & one-size-fits-all insurance reform is the best thing since The One cut his first fart (while reading a teleprompter, surely). Spinmeisters control my itty brain, & you are a god. I bow in your general direction (& be glad I don't quote the sexy genius, Barry Sotero's first "comment" in your general direction--if that is his name is this month).

I surrender. I will go forth & wear my aluminum hat to keep the "kornspiacies" out, & sit in my apartment endlessly watching Larry King Barely Alive, & other wise & truthful Clinton News Network offerings.

There. Ya happy now?

If not, too bad. Because from now on, we will never speak of facts again. I see no point in giving you the pesky things, as in your book, if you don't agree, then it's a "kornspiracy." How can I possibly debate with a person whose brains have turned to concrete? DEBATE demands facts...those "stubborn little things." I never claimed it was a conspiracy. In fact, I see it as merely human nature coupled withe the pernicious nature of governments, which is what our Founders knew all to well.

Ah, but they must've been "kornspiracy theorists," too.

Maggiepie
"If the facts don't fit the theory, change the facts." ~ Albert Einstein

Did you stomp off in a huff after you typed that tirade Maggie? No one was talking about Socialism or insurance reform but nice attempt at a diversion tactic?

You claim to speak of facts yet provide nothing more than he said/she said claims and theories that have every member of our legislature hiding under their beds out of fear of being called names. I prefer facts/proof/evidence even if you really don't when it comes to the president and, thus far, there are no facts to support the claim that he was born outside of the U.S. Don't you find it the least bit odd that a birth certificate from Kenya has not appeared in well over a year? All of these very important Kenyans are making so many grand claims yet no one has produced any proof? What is it that they're afraid of? But, according to many who know him and his wife...he wasn't born here. Obama's father is Kenyan...that is not in dispute...and that does not mean that HE was born there, too.

goodness sake kids, back to your corners!
I think the birth certificate issue is a dead one. We can argue ALL day long. Bottom line, it is up to the courts to decide and hopefully we will get the much needed legislation that the most powerful person in the country should provide proof of citizenship!
The actual topic here I believe that we all agree but want our own wording - I know I am just a little bit older than eight.

Maggiepie...Great Comment! If it is not Ibn Barack Hussein Obama's place of birth that is in question then he must have must have some really terribly bad secret that he is determined to keep hidden at a cost of a million dollars...I am sure that his lawyers love him very much and hope he just keeps on paying them them.

I have no intention in commenting on sillidino's comments as she is on another tirade to protect the purity of her idol.

You have no intention of commenting, whiteout, because you can't manipulate facts the way that you (and a few others) love to manipulate fiction. Obama is exercising the same legal rights that every other citizen of this country is entitled to...the right to mount a defense when someone files a legal action against you and the right to keep your personal information private. Or are you and yours suggesting that just any ole person should have access to your birth certificate, school records, etc. Ever hear of identity theft protection? And dontcha just hate facts? Don't bother to answer...we've covered this before and you'd rather make silly accusations than live in the real world.

Laglen, I appreciate your effort to smooth things over, I really do, but this isn't by any means the first time I've locked horns over the dodge of "kornspiracies" imagined by Spall. I don't have "theories," conspiratorial or not; I have factual reports which she could have seen on even some of the same "mainstream" media outlets as I, all verified by relatives, teachers & officials, that virtually all the documentation Obama possesses has been hidden, using our tax money to do so, & that he in fact was born a British citizen. ALL THESE THINGS ARE PUBLIC RECORD. Not "theories." And I mean even the recordings of Kenyan & Indonesian officials & witnesses of his origins.

Even Obama's own words condemn him for everything I've said. I think it's just lazy to call someone a name when you disagree, & use marginalization to discredit the person, rather than debate the facts available. Save that for people who are truly evil.

Also, I have listed sources when I feel they aren't common knowledge. I take great pride in my research, & I refuse to waste my time "debating" with someone unwilling to do her own. The facts are out there; I've done MY homework, & it's been my experience that when people do their own, it's apt to stick better, & be more appreciated. Why should I do her work for her?

Anyway, I've had it with her insults. IF she can learn to debate without insulting, I might have a serious topic to bandy about, but given her history of ducking behind her "kornspiracy theorist" label (frankly, that silly misspelling was almost cute the first time I saw it, but it's really old, now) for any topic she doesn't want to examine closely, I don't think I'll hold my breath...I mean, look! Just after your letter, she's already insulting Whiteheather!

I grant you, Whiteheather gets sharp sometimes, but I've noted it's usually only with certain MyLotters. The rest of the time, she's sweet as peach pie! I think attacks on people's intelligence just naturally bring out the worst in most people. That's why I couldn't resist making her swallow some of her own medicine, with my "concrete" jibe. Actually, she's very smart--obviously!--but she does have a compartment in her mind which dismisses folks if she doesn't like their ideas, & that's worse than mere stupidity, because it's a blind spot. I have my own sometimes, & sometimes it takes a slap upside the head to recognize it. Rather than hold a grudge, I take a hard look at myself, & if I see it's true, I yank it out by the roots!

Anyway, that's my theory, & I'm sticking to it, because it's a "theory" derived from much experience!

Maggiepie
"If the facts don't fit the theory, change the facts." ~ Albert Einstein

Whiteheather: Thank you, &...DITTOS!

Maggiepie
"If the facts don't fit the theory, change the facts." ~ Albert Einstein

Whiteheather: P.S. Actually, it's closer to two million dollars by now Mr. Transparency's used of our money to hide his paper trail. Maybe I wouldn't be quite so hacked if he'd use his own damned money to cover his patoot. Of course, that's not going to happen. I mean, this man wouldn't share any of his funds with the rest of his family when they're living far below the American poverty line. Remember his uncle in Kenya, who makes something like $12 a year & lives in a dirt hut? Not a dime. If Obama sent the man $24 dollars, he'd double the fellow's yearly income! So if even his family gets tossed under the infamous bus, how high do you think we citizens rate on his give-a-damn-o-meter?

Yeah, that's what I thought, too.

Anyway, never mind Spall's blasts. YOU are spot on.

Maggiepie
"If the facts don't fit the theory, change the facts." ~ Albert Einstein

Maggie, I am so shocked and hurt (not really) by your obvious discrimination when it comes to your little buddy and me. It's okay for her to play around with my username and insult me but, when I post something in return, I'm baaad? Was whiteheather even in this thread? No, she jumped in to give you a pat on the back and to take a shot at me but your attitude is that it's okay, she's just sharp with some folks. Sheesh..

I don't imagine kornspiracies, Mags, but you and a few others certainly do...and sooo many people are in on it! You say that you have factual reports that virtually all of Obama's personal documentation has been hidden...but what exactly does that prove? How is this any different from the normal actions of anyone else who is being sued? When a doctor, for instance, is sued for malpractice does he immediately turn over all documentation his legal adversary demands? If YOU were being sued, you YOU immediately turn over all documentation the opposing side demanded...financial records, educational records, medical/disability records? Of course not. It's your right to keep your personal information private unless the other side can convince a judge that it's pertinent to the case and he orders you to. So, tell me, why is it wrong for Obama to exercise the same legal right?

The only thing that you have offered above are claims, not facts, and please don't insult my intelligence by suggesting that hard evidence is out there which I have somehow missed. If there were a birth certificate or anything else indicating that Obama was indeed the citizen of some other country, at the very least it would have been posted here a dozen times by now. In fact, you sidestepped my question about a Kenyan birth certificate. You use claims by Kenyan officials as "facts" yet have you asked yourself why they have yet to produce a birth certificate themselves? I don't automatically dismiss you, Maggie, but it's been my experience that, when you are challanged and have no answer to that challange, you become very sarcastic and throw the entire discussion out of the window. I have asked the same questions numerous times, not because I compartmentalize anyone or any issue but because I've dealt with logic and facts my entire adult life so my questions in this area will relate to logic and facts. I don't expect to be able to have an actual discussion with you about this because your mind is already made up. Obama doesn't have the same legal rights as everyone else because, in your mind he's guilty. Officials in a corrupt country are speaking the truth when it comes to Obama because he's guilty in your mind. I will tell you this though, I'm not happy that the taxpayers are picking up the tab for Obama's legal defense nor am I happy that Taitz and Berg are making a fortune from *donations* so that they can continue to file suit after suit. What ticks me off the most is that members of our military have been used as pawns in this lawsuit game and, once a case is lost, they're tossed out like garbage...left to deal with the consequences of challanging orders on the advice of attorneys who have a personal agenda and no concern for their client du jour.

I don't expect a response...or answers to my questions, Maggie, because as I've seen numerous times already, when I ask logical questions...I am dismissed. I hold no grudges. People will believe as they will and as both you and I are keenly aware, this is only the internet.

ok girls I brought a saucer of milk for each of you.... now chill on the dead issue. We get nowhere with it.

Thank you laglen, for saving maggiepie from further embarassment.

That was aimed at you as well.