Mexico's President calls Az's Law discrimatory?  

Other countries don't. And we do have "anmesty" or "asylum" citizenship processes. We have a process to come to this country legally and to become a citizen of this country. They need to follow it. No one complians that Mexico has really strict immigration laws, so does France and England. Most countries have and enforce their immigration laws....but of if we americans try to enforce our own laws..then we are horrible people.

Personally I think we should just make it a felony to hire an illegal. Then enforce the heck out of the law. If the businesses are too scared of going to jail...they won't hire illegals...if the illegals can't find a job they will deport themselves...and more won't cross the border. They come here for jobs...but if htey can't get them...they won't come. Problem solved.

why not to handle them with border patrol?? Shoot at sight?? No entry, no jobs, no nothing!

Good idea.
Don't get me wrong....I am ALL for immigration....but only if people come here legally. It is not like we are not letting people in at all. We do let them in. But htey have to follow the correct process. Every country has an immigration process. If poeple want to come to this country....great...but do it legally.
It is not too much to ask. Follow the laws of this country if you want to live here.

No, DummyBlog, they do it for $$$$$. They can earn a better living here and why bother with a little thing like immigrating legally when they can just sneak over? Their reasons don't matter. Our laws are already flexible when it comes to people who are seeking asylum for legitimate reasons. Florida's wet foot, dry foot policy allows Cuban and Haitian immigrants to stay if they make it to land...and their journey is a heck of a lot more difficult than sneaking across the boarder.

Hey Dummyblog, what is it about illegal that is confusing you, they are criminals as soon as they cross the border.

OK DummyBlog, so if a man steals because he says he is hungry, then he has not broken the law? A man rapes a woman because he has needs so we should let him off because he had needs? A person illegally comes into this country because life is too hard where they come from hence they should be allowed to stay even though they broke our laws because we should feel sorry for them! Have you taken any of them into your home and fed, housed, medicated and supported any of them?

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"I don't believe that its illegal that somebody steals because he/she is hungry."
GREAT! Ok...so if you would just let me know where you live and when your door will be unlocked, I'll be there to claim a few things from your refrigerator.
Oh..and Ill be taking your car too because i don't have one and am too poor to afford one, where i live its impossible to find suitable work with out one. Since I don't have a full time job right now and don't have a car to find one, I'll be needing some of your money too...or some of your valuables I can sell for money...either will do just fine...
Thanks! :D

"Soviet Union was a great power and everyone was happy there, people enjoyed luxuries but look what happened to them after their downfall. "
I just noticed that last part of your post.......WTF? Your JOKING right??

Don't confuse "Starvation" with "Cars".
Anyone would do anything to survive hunger. Its a basic human instinct. The first right of any human is "Survival"

People of Soviet Union had all the necessities and they used to look at "Capitalism" as evil cult. Its just as you think about SU.

Well, I need a car to survive...so I feel I have a right to it.....again, thank you for your generosity.

Don't play man! :)
You know what I mean! lol

Isn't that the truth? I mean, what part of "illegal" do they not understand? Illegal goes hand in hand with criminal...and in this country criminals go to jail (well, often they do!) They broke the law by the way they came into this country, so they are illegal criminals! If they can break the law and get away with it, why can't the rest of us?

"If they can break the law and get away with it, why can't the rest of us? " Good question! I would like to see someone give a good answer. :)

Thanks for "best response." Good discussion! :)

Yep...it is all about the money...so he throws words like "discrimination" out there to sound scarey and bad...when in truth he just does not want the cash cow to stop.

I agree with you. I would also say...why are all these illegals spending all their time protesting here? Why not use that time and energy to improve their own country and make it a better place to live. They belong there...not here. So go home and work on making your country into waht you want it ot be...stop trying to change ours to suit you.

You are so wrong white people do have to go through the checks. Ask the Illegal Russian guy crying because he has been here working under the table for years and he is being sent back to his own country because he is illegal! It is not only to stop "brown" people as you say from being here illegally they have the right to stop anyone one who is suspicious. It is true that in that part of the country the majority of illegals is Mexican because of the proximity to the Mexican boarder, so what it is what it is that is not racist it is geography.

Lets be serious here, the illegal Russian is not the issue at hand. It is the illegal Mexicans, like you said, that are in close proximity to the border. What is racist is that Arizona is a state with a lot of citizens of Mexican heritage. But the majority of the people living there ARE in fact, U.S. citizens and have been living there for years. Now all of a sudden a piece of legislature makes it okay for random checks of these people when they are going about their daily business. This is not the answer to stop people from illegally entering your country. Tighter border security is the answer, instead of having gaps with no fencing or walls along the border,then build one. Discriminating against people just because they 'look suspicious' is not the answer. That is what Hitler did, he made laws that made it okay for his Nazi's to stop suspicious looking Jews in the streets. Let's not let history repeat itself. The law is discriminatory, white people are not going to be the ones deemed as suspicious.

Not sure where you get your information from, but this Russian you are talking about is not a victim of the Arizona law because it has not even been put into practice yet, sure it was signed but it is not active until later in the year. The law COULD, go into effect as early as 90 days AFTER it was signed on April 23rd.

j00nior...perhaps you could show me the particular text from the law that is discriminatory? I'm sure since you seem to be so knowledgeable on it you must have read it and can do this right?
Well....ok...I'll spare you the embarrassment as with your post you have already embarrassed yourself enough. The law specificly FORBIDS racial discrimination. The law also does NOT allow for "random checks" (this would be a blatant 4th amendment violation) It allows for law enforcement to check the citizenship status of people who are already either under arrest, already stopped at a traffic stop another offense such as speeding. It does NOT and FORBIDS stopping simply because the officer thinks the driver or person is there illegally. I would suggest you take a few minutes and read the actual bill and the amendments put on it as well.
I would also like to remind you that your country has some pretty strict immigration laws as well. I used to travel up there quite frequently. I was once detained for nearly 2 hours once and nearly denied entry because I could not produce a birth certificate (didn't know one was required as I was never asked for one before when crossing there) and I was self employed.

Very true...we have illegals here from all over the world. Not just Mexico. But you never hear about that.

Well you do it just isn't as blown out of proportion when it comes to jokes and what not. I would love to hear what that Mexican President would do if we adopted their own immigration laws.

Yep...he is all about what is best for him...and not what is right or even legal.