A sad state of affairs
By ElicBxn
@ElicBxn (64169)
United States
April 12, 2011 10:47pm CST
I have stated in the past that I do home health.
I have also had some considerable contact with aides both for Maggiepie before I stepped in and became her aide, and at some nursing facilities.
I will tell you that I have worked for this company for 4 years now and the ONLY pay raise I got was when minimum wage went up.
Fortunately, I am not trying to support myself and my household on this income.
Now, my mother was in what is considered the BEST facility in Austin Texas, these people are not on Medicaid, tho they keep 2 bed for Medicaid patients and took in some from Galveston before and after Ike.
The staff there has low turn over and they KNOW that if they get complaints, they will be let go, because these people are PAYING for the privilege of being there.
However, I can PROMISE you, that MOST of the other places I've seen (with one exception) was an entirely different story.
Some were little better than jails for the residents, including the privilege of being ignored for HOURS.
And, the aides I saw and part of why I stepped in to be Maggie's helper, were semi-literate and some, I'm afraid, were mildly retarded. These people were a pale comparison of the privately paid people I saw at mom's. I can't say I'm as good as they are, because most of them have had more training than I have had, but I do think that I care as much as they do for my client, even if I don't get paid as much.
Still, so long as these home health places are getting paid by Medicaid and Medicare, they can only afford to pay minimum, at least at first, and that means that people with more qualifications will move on to other jobs. Jobs that pay more, or have at least health insurance, or sick leave, or... well, you get the picture.
So, I know that people on here are often trying to supplement their income, and we have a number of disabled people on here, at least a few getting home health (yes, I am actually speaking of Maggie here) and then we hear about elderly people being mistreated by family members and, sometimes, aides.
Well, maybe these aides should be reconsidered...
Do you want your elderly/disabled family member to have a mentally challenged person with little to no training taking care of them?
I dread the day I can't do it any more, but... on the other hand... I also can't take not having a vacation or holiday any more. And, so far, I've managed to work my, and the roomie's medical stuff around my part time work, but I've got an up coming procedure that they say I can't drive after, that means not going to work.
So... what do you think? I don't want our taxes to go up because of people who don't work but could, yet there are those trying to live independently (cheaper than a nursing home) who can't without assistance, and look what is being hired to help them...
What do you think?
**while I didn't consult Maggiepie before starting this, I can promise that she really is disabled and unable to work and my BBF so I am not slamming or flaming her in any way**
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12 responses
@GardenGerty (169474)
• United States
13 Apr 11
Elic, what about administrators who play into this "system" What is your opinion? I was working in the school system, going to school for a CNA, and working three nights a week on the cleaning crew at a large not for profit nursing home. I was informed by the CEO at one point, that I would never be allowed to do anything in her nursing home except be housekeeping. I know why, I made her mad. #1, I called abuse and neglect by their proper names, and spoke up in a couple of situations. #2, I refused to reinstate my commercial driver's license and take over the transportation duties. I really should have done that, I probably would have been good at it.
CNA does pay about $1.00 per hour more than minimum to start around here. To do Home Health Aide work you must have another class on top of that.
One of the instructors in my Social Service Class pointed out that you can tell how much we "value" our elderly by how much monetary value we place on paying the people who take care of them.
The good ones burn out. They care too much. I did not have to be certified to do my job with the adult disabled, but I did not feel valued in the deepest sense by the bosses. Now we got cute little bonuses and gifts, but it did not make up for not being valued. I saw one of my former clients at her job at Wendy's today, and she said "I still think you were the best coordinator ever.
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@ElicBxn (64169)
• United States
13 Apr 11
Oh, I have to agree. There are times when I call the office and get not satisfactory response... like I called and left my name and number for my supervisor and still had to call her back because she never called.
I've told her I'm going to be off next week, I probably should call again at the first of the week to make sure she's gone someone lined up.
And I'm supposed to call at the end of the month about being off a week in May... I'll probably call twice, once at the end of the month, as asked, and again the week before so I'm sure they'll arrange coverage.
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@Maggiepie (7816)
• United States
13 Apr 11
Um...your BBF wants to know why she hadn't heard from you directly that you were having such a procedure, & when, & what you'll do to get around when you can't drive any more! What's wrong, L'Elic??? I knew you'd eventually find a better job & move on...but you're going to be disabled, instead? I am so sad for you! I know how you love to drive & be independent! 

PLEASE talk to me when you come in tomorrow; I want to know everything!
MP


PLEASE talk to me when you come in tomorrow; I want to know everything!
MP@Maggiepie (7816)
• United States
13 Apr 11
Oh, thank God! I was distraught! I didn't connect that "day off" with your post. Even if you told me it was coming, & you did, you know me; it just got filed away in some corner of my noodle under "remind me later," since you didn't sound worried about whatever you had planned for that day. So, when I read your post, somehow it just struck me as sounding as if you were never going to be allowed to drive again! (I'd already been trying to prepare myself for the day you'd leave to find a better-paying job, & I suppose the 2 things became conflated in what passes for my brain...
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The only thing that could mean, I..."reasoned"... was something new & catastrophic must be happening to you! You know how much I love you little sister! I was bawling my eyes out, wondering if you'd discovered you were going blind, or had cancer, yadda yadda! So, whew!! (We need an emoticon for that!
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Okay...maybe I'm having a hormone blitz. Whatever. I'm just sooo grateful to you for calling me personally to reassure me when you saw my post! Thank you!
Love,
Maggiepie
"England & America are two countries divided by a common language." ~ G.B. Shaw
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The only thing that could mean, I..."reasoned"... was something new & catastrophic must be happening to you! You know how much I love you little sister! I was bawling my eyes out, wondering if you'd discovered you were going blind, or had cancer, yadda yadda! So, whew!! (We need an emoticon for that!
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Okay...maybe I'm having a hormone blitz. Whatever. I'm just sooo grateful to you for calling me personally to reassure me when you saw my post! Thank you!
Love,
Maggiepie
"England & America are two countries divided by a common language." ~ G.B. Shaw3 people like this

@AmbiePam (120738)
• United States
13 Apr 11
The state of nursing homes that only take Medicaid and Medicare patients concerns me greatly. My dad will take care of my mom as long as he can. But eventually, someday she'll have to be put in a nursing home. And so many nursing homes are staffed with good workers. But just as many are staffed with people who abuse or ignore their patients.
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@alaskanray (4636)
• United States
13 Apr 11
I was talking to my girlfriend tonight and we were commiserating about the medical profession, insurance and doctors that don't care. I told her the problem is that medicine is no longer an art: it's an industry. The same can be said of caregiving. I blame the insurance companies. Insurance is evil....it is legalized racketeering!




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@paula27661 (15811)
• Australia
13 Apr 11
I have noticed similar issues in my country, in fact last year I was offered a job taking care of a disabled young lady full time and I have neither qualifications nor experience. At the time I presumed there was a shortage of qualified carers but it could very well be that they would not have to pay me as much as a carer with a diploma. The ones who do pay the highest price of course are the patients. There have been several instances on the news in regards to nursing home patients being left uncared for or worse still downright abused by ill qualified workers. I agree it is a sad state of affairs… I didn’t take the job buy the way...
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@alaskanray (4636)
• United States
13 Apr 11
When I worked my first Nursing Home job, the nurse in charge actually scolded me for spending "too much time" in the rooms with my patients! I have made my daughter promise me never to put me in one of those places because of all that I saw when I worked there. I have also done in home care and while I prefer doing that sort of thing to the institutional care I have also seen family members that I was providing respite for being totally unreasonable in their demands and expectations of their elderly and dying relatives that they were supposedly caring for.
I remember one night coming in to provide respite care and walking into "grampa"'s room and his face lighting up as he said, "Oh, good! I'm safe!" He was actually afraid of his granddaughter! She finally shipped him off to her sister's for the last months of his life, taking over his home and kicking him out and he was powerless to stop her! What really made me want to throw up, though, was hearing others who were not in the know about the situation praise her as being so caring toward him! I held my peace but had no respect for the woman. This is one reason I have made some decisions about my healthcare that could ostensibly shorten my life...but will also shorten my debilitation!




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@Maggiepie (7816)
• United States
17 Apr 11
I would've told people. There are laws against elderly abuse.
Maggiepie
"The difference between the almost-right word & the right word is really a large matter; it's the difference between the lightning-bug & the lightning." ~ Mark Twain
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@alaskanray (4636)
• United States
18 Apr 11
I didn't know who to tell...nor am I one to tell tales. If I had known where to report the incident to, I would have but I'm not one to argue over off-handed comments. The trouble was that the old man had no advocate, and he needed one. I offered to take over the majority of the care but was told they wanted to keep it "in the family". With "family" like that, who needs enemies, eh?

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@uath13 (8192)
• United States
13 Apr 11
I'm just hoping that whatever finally manages to push me to the point of disability just goes ahead & kills me. I'd sooner go skydiving & "forget" to pull the rip cord then have to be cared for, especially in some of those places I've seen. I'd go mad in one of them.
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@BarBaraPrz (51819)
• St. Catharines, Ontario
13 Apr 11
My mother's primary home care worker was wonderful (she even switched agencies when the contract went to another firm, so that she could continue to work with "her" charges) but some of the fill-ins did little more than warm the couch.
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@scarlet_woman (23463)
• United States
8 Jul 11
i would not mind the mentally challenged so much if they had the training and could do the job.people with no training i don't want touching my mother,challenged or not.
we had a newbie at the hospital cause a huge hematoma on her because they didn't know what they were doing,and boy,did i chew out that hospital about it.elderly shouldn't be guinea pigs for the noobs.
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@ElicBxn (64169)
• United States
8 Jul 11
I wish I thought they had training, but considering what I got (NONE) I rather doubt it... but maybe they got a bit more than I did, because I was requested by Maggie to be her aide - and I flat told them I wasn't going to be able to lift her if she fell, and they told me they didn't expect that, the fire department would do it (I knew that...)
@zed_k4 (17589)
• Singapore
18 Apr 11
It's definitely a sticky situation .. in most cases money talks and it's not cool but it's the reality. I think more organization should step up and help those genuinely trying to make it for themselves independently. They might not have the resources or good health to start with , but their determinations and spirits are there.
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@blue65packer (11826)
• United States
13 Apr 11
I hate to say this but I didn't realize this stuff was going on! I really didn't! I really didn't! My dad is 87 and is still living with his girlfriend who 74. As long as she can take care of him my family doesn't have to worry about home care or nurseing home! It is sad when Medicare and Medicaid is always slashed when there is spending cuts!
I can see people with mental challanges doing homecare, If they aren't to challanged mentally,I can see that! I dod worry they would need more checking on my their work coach or whoever. Ithink,tto,if these pocession would pay more,more people would work in the field. At least that is my opinion!
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