Kathy"My sister came to see me me, and did not wake me up"

@Hatley (163781)
Garden Grove, California
December 28, 2011 3:09pm CST
I was sitting at my place just now at lunch and Kathy my roomie came over to me. She was in tears.She said her sister and bro ther in law came to see her and left when they saw she was asleep. I was also back in bed and woke for a few minutes and thought they were talking to her so went back to sleep. but Kathy said that they had left without staying to visit with her. I also am upset with them because they live in Long Beach a good forty miles from here so took some time to get here then just left without visiting with Her? not right in my book.As it was very cold in our room, and only 8 am we both went back to bed. I fell asleep and woke briefly when I thought I heard her sister talking to Kathy. But Kathy claims they left without waking her so they could have a good visit. I think that was just plain wrong of her sister. Her sister knows Kathyt spends a lot of time laying in bed snoozing so why on earth did she not wake her? your take myfellow mylotters.
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@carmelanirel (20942)
• United States
28 Dec 11
Now wait, you said you heard her sister talking? Perhaps she tried waking her up, but Kathy was too tired or if Kathy is like my husband, I sometimes talk to him while he is sleeping and he talks to me, but he doesn't remember it when he wakes up.
@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
28 Dec 11
hi carm yes I thought I did and thats why I assumed Kathy was awake'but her sister knows Kathy stays in bed all day and just dozes so she is rarely deep asleep. they live far enough away that I would think they would have wanted to wake her to visit with her. I know she has memory problems but I think this timne she was telling it as it was. I know I have never been able to understand why they do not take her home for the holidays as they have a nice home. I and my son do not have that luxury but so many here have relatives that do take residents home for Christmas and New Years.
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@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
29 Dec 11
yes carm it is sad. I know if my son had a place he would bring me h ome but he just has to share an apt with another man. He was just here to bring back my debit card I gave to me on ?c hristmas as I was ill so he cou ld deposit my onehundred dollar bill my husbands niece sends me every Christmas. she is a seventh day adventist as was my husband and this is her way of doing good and oh aI really do appricate it and we have never met face to face. they own a large apple orchards in Washington state so are well to do.
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• United States
29 Dec 11
Maybe you heard them talking but she was not awake enough to remember they were there. I feel bad too for you. I can imagine being in a nursing home or retirement home situation and then never getting any visitors much… and my family came and I was sleeping and they just left without waking me. I would be so hurt for not seeing them. I would feel they didn’t care enough to wake me. I know how lonely being in a nursing home environment can be for people. I worked in a few of them. Some had visitors every day and some got visitors on Sunday’s and some didn’t see family for a year or more.. some not even on Christmas.
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@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
29 Dec 11
Hi PointlessQuestions I am so sorry I did not get up when they came because if they did not wake her because of me, I would really feel bad.I seldom go back to bed but I am getting over the flu e and had had a bad night. I woke enough to hear them talking and thought Kathy was awake so went back to sleep. so I only have Kathys side of the story. I am so lucky my son does come to see me all the time and we talk and its just great, he knows I never would have come to this place if we had had any place else for me to go at that time. we were both broke and i was fortunate to have my social security and ssi checks so they took me in. I was not here because I could not exist in an apartment but was here becau se we had no other alternative. I just cannot fathom though that all the couple of years I have been her roomie her sister had never t aken Kathy home for Christmas. that does seem so odd to me.they are the only visitors she ever has and they should know she loves their visits.
@dragon54u (31636)
• United States
28 Dec 11
If I were to make an 80 mile round trip to see someone I would certainly stick around till they woke up! In fact, I'd probably wake them up myself if they weren't sick or something! Poor Kathy, she must feel very hurt that they left without even trying to see her. What the heck was the hurry that they couldn't kill an hour or so until she woke up? I just don't understand people. Give Kathy a hug for me and tell her I said her sister and BIL are stupid jerks.
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@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
29 Dec 11
hi dragon54u I will do that. she was hurt and felt like calling her sister and scolding her. but I did not want her using my phone as I do not have long distance and the call would cost me quite a bit. she used my phone when i was in the hospital but her sister paid me back as my phone bill was too big for me to handle, I can email her sister though and am tempted to ask them if they woke Kathy as I have kathys side that they did not but I am not sure now. Kathy has memory problems
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
29 Dec 11
Maybe her sister thought it was courteous not to wake her, and Kathy should have a talk with her and make sure she knows that she WANTS to be woken up.
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@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
29 Dec 11
hi dawnald you do bring up a good point. I a m wondering since I was myself asleep what really did happen? as they usually do spend some time with her and see that her radio is working and her clock. I really only have Kathy's word for it and she does have memory problems. Since we were both sleeping it might have made them hesitate to visit with her and wake me but I had gone back to bed as I was recuperating from the flu and had not slept well last night. I hope my sleeping did not chase them away.usually I am up and on my computer when they come to see her. I wish I had her sister's side of it.
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@JenInTN (27514)
• United States
29 Dec 11
That's terrible! Why couldn't they just wake her up? It's not like she wouldn't have been so happy to see them. I think it's very rude that they didn't wake her up. If it were in the middle of the might or if they got to see each other all the time it might be different but not to wake her from a nap? I don't understand.
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@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
29 Dec 11
hi jenintn I didn't understand either. I was sorry I had not woken up more as I just assumed they were visiting with each other and went back to sleep. I ordinarily do not go back to bed once up but I had not slept well so as it was very cold in here crawled back in bed and slept til ten forty five.If i had been awake I would have said oh go ahead wake her as she really wants to see you guys.
• India
29 Dec 11
sister and brother left, may be their are some reasons, may be they have forgot some urgent work and they get back to complete them, because work has a priority. so do one thing ask brother and sister they will explain it better. and if the story is same as explained by kathy then its pity to have kind of sibling, how can one left without saying anything, and the matter become more worse when the lefted person is one of your siblings and close ones.
@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
29 Dec 11
hi jaihobalodiji1 you know I was sitting here wondering if Kathy did talk to them then fell asleep and just thought she did not. I have only her side of the story as I was fast asleep myself. I feel like emailing her sister and asking for her side of it as Kathy does have memory problems.
@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
29 Dec 11
sid yes her meemory some days is worse than other days sothere is 'a possibility if I could talk to her sister she would say why we did talk to her so she must have forgotten that. I really am not sure 'now as sometimes Kathy will say i am going down to the front office to ask about such and such then when she get down there she has forgotten what she wanted to ask. so now I just do not know. I had surgery to have a ruptured uterus removed and my husband teased me as I told my mom and sister I did not want to see them, I just did not rem=ember saying that and I think I thought they has said they wanted to wheel me out into a sitting room, and I did not want to be moved as i was in pain.I really never did remember that but my hubby said mymom was upset and I just could not believe I said something like that to my own mom. lol lol
• India
29 Dec 11
yes hatley, that how can we dig the real answer to the exact problem, the is that why brother and sister left, and only they can give the good answer itselg so go and get some good news for kathy. she must be upset or may be its her fault.
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@GardenGerty (157563)
• United States
29 Dec 11
If Kathy has Alzheimer's disease, they could very well have visited with her and she completely forgot it. I am sure I would not drive forty miles and see someone sleeping and leave without a visit. I would maybe go to lunch or breakfast, letting staff know I was coming back and then they could wake her and get her ready for a visit. Kathy may also have refused to wake up.
@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
30 Dec 11
hi gardengerty y es that is it,I only have Kathy's sayso and its really a possility she visted then feel asleep so they left and she just does not remember it. her memory] is so odd. at times she is almost normal for awhile then she'even forgets my last name, she alwqys remembers my first Patsie as it] sound a lot like Katy but other times she does remember it. so I am at a loss. I just cannot believe that they would have left without talking to her.They do try to come each week but the odd thing is they have never taken her to their home for any of the holidays. that seems sort of cold to me? unless there 's a good reason for not taking her.
@mr_pearl (5018)
• India
29 Dec 11
Of course it was not a good conduct, Hatley.. They must have waken her up. I feel sorry for Kathy... I hope she has more good moments in life... Tell her, to stop thinking about her relatives... I mean, if they don't want to see her, then why should she care... Has she called to her sister? What did she say???
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@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
30 Dec 11
hi mr pear. yes Kathy called her sister today but she was not home so Kathy left a message. now I was asleep and woke briefly,saw them by her bed and thought i heard them talking so fell back asleep.so wondering if she did visit with them and completely forgot. she does have a memory problem.if Kathy is right I am ashamed of them as usually they visit and often take Kathy for a ride.
@sid556 (30960)
• United States
29 Dec 11
Hi Hatley, Yep...wrong. I have been to visit friends and family in hospitals as well as nursing homes etc. I've gone in when they are sleeping. I really really hate waking someone up. I might make a gentle attempt and if they don't wake right up, I leave a note and let them know that I was there and will be back soon. I will go and get a coffee and do something to kill a little time and then come back and try again. Usually ...almost always. they are either awake or wake up easily. If I were travelling any distance and had limited time, I would call ahead and make sure they knew I was coming. If I wanted to surprise them, I'd call and make sure the staff knew to make sure that they were awake. NEVER would I just leave without having spent some time with them.
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@sid556 (30960)
• United States
29 Dec 11
I mentioned above a situation where I sincerely thought that a friend had not visited me when in fact he had. That was because of the morphine I was given. I don't know Kathy or how forgetful she can be but unless she is on some seriously strong meds or is suffering dementia, I tend to side with her on this one. From what you are telling us, it sounds as if they maybe put in a small effort and left. I know you say you heard them talking to her when you woke briefly. When I visited and someone was sleeping I would talk to them softly and we might softly talk amongst ourselves....I really don't know but sorry to hear that she was so upset.
@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
29 Dec 11
thats it Sid I just do not know what to think as I have kathys side of the story but could she have forgooten she talked to them and just fell back asleep after they left. it seemed odd to me after having come all that ways that they would not stay'long enough to have a visit with her. I hope my sleeping did not cause them problems as I was feeling ill and was sound asleep so their visiting would not have bothered me at all.
@jdyrj777 (6530)
• United States
29 Dec 11
I dont understand why they would drive that far to visit then just turn around and leave. If it was me i would have went to go do something else and returned. Or just relaxed and waited for her to wake up.
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@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
30 Dec 11
hi jdrj me too so I just do not understand it. Now I was asleep and woke just enough to know her sister and brother in law ere here, I thought I heard them talkings so I just went back to sleep as I was feeling ill. then at lunch Kathy told me she felt they did not wake her and just left, now I am not sure if thats true. She does have memory problems so it could be she did talk to them then fell asleep , they left and she does not remember.I feel if they did leave without waking her that is just unforgivable.
@jdyrj777 (6530)
• United States
30 Dec 11
Oh that could be true that she dont remember. That sounds more likely since you say you thought you heard them talking. Also i believe that all things should be forgivable. Well, most anyway. This would be forgivable in my book.
@ifa225 (14364)
• Indonesia
30 Dec 11
maybe she is in a tight schedule Mrs.Hatley and got another appointment. who knows.. but they can still talk each other by phone even they are live in a far distance
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@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
30 Dec 11
hi ifa you know you bring up a valid point but they never do call our room and I have my own phone so they could call me and let Kathy talk to them. they do have an email address I have had to use several time when Kathy got in trouble because she cannot remember. they think she has Alzeheimer disease but are not sure. I dont really know if they left without talking to her as only have Kathy's side of the story.she might havt talked to them then went back to sleep. I was asleep so I just dont know for su re.
@shibham (16977)
• India
29 Dec 11
Hatley. Its truly wrong for them. As Kathy resides away from them and they came to visit, then at least they should tried to wake her up. Now its suffering from Kathy, i can feel that.
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@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
30 Dec 11
hi shibham yes she was in tears but I have been thinking,since I just woke for a second saw them there and heard them talking,I assumed they were visiting and fell back asleep. so now I qm wondering since she does forget easily maybe they did visit and she for got they did,then fell asleep when they left. If they did not visit with her,I am baffled as why come then just leave..
• China
29 Dec 11
Sounds as if it was unreasonable for them to spend about one hour coming there from the place more than 60km away to visit Kathy and had no talk with her and left without saying good-bye.In my opinion,it was far from them to do that.They wouldn't rather visit her than do so. In addition,I don't know about you,over here when people visit the elderly ,they usually take some gifts with them.I am not sure if they took that.
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@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
30 Dec 11
hi chang they do at times bring a gift to her, I dont think they did this time. Now I slept while they were here, just woke once, saw them and hurt them talking so I was sure Kathy was visiting so I went back to sleep as I was feeling ill. But again Kathy does 'forget so I only have her side of the story and she was very hurt. So am hoping that she did visit withthem then totally forgot and went back to sleep.
• China
30 Dec 11
Oh,I see.She wronged them by saying they left without visiting her .I doubt if she gets amnesia.
@enelym001 (8322)
• Philippines
29 Dec 11
Hi Hatley I could not understand how they waste their time going to Kathy's place but never tried to wake her up. Siblings usually do not care whether the other is sleeping especially if they both are living far from each other. A simple hi and hello and a little chat is okay. Why can't they spend some time - are they not missing kathy so they just left like that.
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@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
30 Dec 11
hi enelym001 Happy New Year yes me too unless she did talk with them then when back to sleep and forgot so she thinks they came and did not wake her. I was sound asleep so am not sure just what did'happen. as a ru le they try to come every week, You see I only have kathy's side of the story. I am tempted to ask them but do not'want to make them angry either. lol
@enelym001 (8322)
• Philippines
30 Dec 11
Happy New Year too Hatley Oh okay, something might be wrong with Kathy too... Yep better to keep away with her issues with them. 'Though I find it funny how she said that... and didn't realized she might have forgotten to entertain them.
@ElicBxn (63235)
• United States
29 Dec 11
I totally agree with you guys! When I would go see my mom, and now when I go over to see some of her friends, even tho I live in town, I try to make sure they wake up to visit, or at least know I came by. Even when I go see someone in the hospital... if they aren't too sick anyway (I was visited when I was in the hospital and would've gladly thrown them out I was so tired!). Today when I went to see Maggiepie she was asleep, well, I had to wake her up to do something for me, and I had to run another errand for her after the visit so I only stayed about 30 minutes rather than 45 to an hour like other days. But, I would've awaken her anyway to visit. Again, I live in town so its not like I can't get over and see her.
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@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
29 Dec 11
hi elicbxn I am the same way too. I was just remembering when I had hepatitis and was sick at my stomahc os much our pastor came to see me. I appreciated the thougtht but he sat down on the edge of my bed and bounced up and down as he talked to me . the upshot waqs that i got seasick and had to grab that kidny basin.of course the things are not really deep enough so when I heaved most went inb the basin and the rest splashed on the pastor's coat e ven as he jumped up and quit jiggling the bed. Why they could not just wake her up and visit with her is beyond me bvut still I only have Kathy's side as I was sound asleep. I knew they had come and i thought I heard them talking to her so I fell back asleep. You are the kindest person to care for Maggiepie like you do and I bet she does appreciate it too. give her a hug from hatley..lol
@savak03 (6684)
• United States
1 Jan 12
If I had driven that distance just to see someone I would not have left without seeing them. It sounds to me like they were in town for some other reason and guilt made them stop by. Perhaps they were glad to see that she was asleep so they could sneak back out without the bother of a visit. Of course they are probably patting themselves on the back for making the effort.
@yspmyl (3435)
• Malaysia
29 Dec 11
Hi Hatley, When came to this kind of situation, it is best to ask her sister instead of only listen to one side from Kathy. Sometime, people who are sleeping may not want to wake up when some one talk to them or they didn't really awake when talk to someone, I have experience a few time with my wife when I talk to her while she was just half awake, and I though she was awake, but when I ask her again the same thing the next day, she denied that I have told her that. So, I guess, Kathy is also in that situation that she doesn't really fully awake and she didn't realized that she is actually talking to her sister, or she have said something to make them leave without disturbing her. As a normal person, I think if I were to travel so far to visit someone, I will wake her up and talk to her unless she told me do not disturb her and ask me to leave.
@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
29 Dec 11
hi yspmyl I was thinking the same thing, as I was asleep myself, something i rarely do is lie down after having been up but I had had a bad night so crawled back in bed and was sound asleep. I woke a b it and saw they were by her bed and thou ght I heard them talking so I let myself go back to sleep. I am still recovering from a bout withthe flu. Kathy does have memory problems so she might have forgotten that they did talk to her. I sure hope so.
@sjvg1976 (41131)
• Delhi, India
29 Dec 11
Hello Hatley, Its ridiculous they should have wake her up.When they came to meet her only travelling 40 miles then why did they not wake her.If i were in their place i would have never gone back without meting my sis/bro like they went back.
@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
29 Dec 11
hi sjvg I felt that w ay too as they came to see her so why not wake her and have their visit. she maintains they left without waking her and as I was asleep I am not sure what happened ., I know she was in tears as she always wants to see them. my son comes every week and they should come too. why take the time to drive all that way and leave without talking to her?
@RitterSport (2451)
• Lippstadt, Germany
1 Jan 12
Depends on the situation dear Hatley and only Kathys sister can answer this. I was part time caregiver for my mother for 1,5 years and often when I got there after work around 6 pm she was sleeping. I let her sleep even if she would complain afterwards when she learned I had been there. Reason simply is she always said she is in back pain etc and I was glad for the time she sleeps cause then she doesnt feel pain.
@jjzone44 (917)
• United States
29 Dec 11
It's their loss Hatley. If they drove all that way, and would not wake Kathy up to visit her, that is definitely their loss. I am sure that if Kathy wanted a visit from them, and she was sleeping, she would not have minded them waking her up. I don't know why they would do that, maybe they just wanted an excuse not to visit with her. Maybe you all should also think about changing your locks, that way they would have to knock before they could just enter and leave like that?
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@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
29 Dec 11
hi jjzone44 when they moved us to this room we never got keys to our door so we never lock it. I do not like this arrangement but I hav e gone with it, keeping my purse on me when not here in my room. I am now wondering if Kathy did not forget they talked to her and just talked to them then when they left she fell asleep again. I wish I had got up instead of going back to sleep, I o nly have Kathy's side of the story.