"Only native English speakers please"

@allknowing (153529)
India
October 6, 2015 7:41pm CST
Many writing sites insist that only native English speakers would be allowed to write. Do they not know that English is an international language and that there are far better writers in the world whose first language is not English? Wake up!! Your views please.
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@Rollo1 (16676)
• Boston, Massachusetts
7 Oct 15
Not ll sites are like that. many that pay people for web content writing will ask for a sample or judge the writer on the work submited..
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@allknowing (153529)
• India
7 Oct 15
You can read my comment on Jabo's response
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@jaboUK (64346)
• United Kingdom
7 Oct 15
@Rollo1 That's how it should be, of course.
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@jaboUK (64346)
• United Kingdom
7 Oct 15
I haven't been around to many sites, so haven't come across this, but surely they only mean that things must be written in English?
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@Gina145 (3949)
• Johannesburg, South Africa
7 Oct 15
@jaboUK No, they don't all mean that. If you come from the wrong country some sites will assume that your English isn't good enough, though I've come across some people whose write such good English that it's hard to believe that it isn't their home language. It's so wrong that those people should be penalised.
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@jaboUK (64346)
• United Kingdom
7 Oct 15
@Gina145 Really? I must admit to being quite shocked at that. I don't go wondering around the internet much so haven't come across that. I agree that some non-native English speakers can be better writers than some born to the language.
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@allknowing (153529)
• India
7 Oct 15
This is the reply I get from this site 'Great Content' They do not say that before one applies. Unfortunately, we must inform you that your application did not meet the minimum requirements of the greatcontent quality assurance team. We must, therefore, reject your application. The main reason for our rejection is stated below: Thank you for your application, and your sample text. Unfortunately we guarantee our clients that only native US English speakers write our texts, and as such must reject your application.
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@sofssu (23660)
7 Oct 15
I don't even care anymore.. I do remember something that happened on info barrel once.. One of the big hats from hubpages joined IB where you had to have at least five articles approved before you could post on your own. This guys articles were not approved and he was told to have his articles checked by a native English speaker.. imagine his rage when he himself was a native English speaker. He started his own site then.. Doesn't make sense anymore.
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@allknowing (153529)
• India
7 Oct 15
When there is so much exposure nowadays for learning the language this cult should be given up. Yes. I call it cult
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• Philippines
7 Oct 15
@sofssu was his own site a success?
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@sofssu (23660)
8 Oct 15
@hereandthere Yes he was until panda hit, a lot of people from HP joined him..
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@valmnz (17095)
• New Zealand
7 Oct 15
I think that use of the word native is quite strange. There are children in schools all around the world who have grown up speaking the language of the country they live in, but speak their parents home country language at home.
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@allknowing (153529)
• India
7 Oct 15
You can read my comment on Jabo's response.
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@Gina145 (3949)
• Johannesburg, South Africa
7 Oct 15
There seems to be no balance with things like that. Some sites are far too fussy because a lot of people write very good English despite it not being their home language. On the other hand I find it quite irritating when sites will allow members to publish posts in English that doesn't make sense.
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@allknowing (153529)
• India
7 Oct 15
I am with you on this but at the same time it is the set up of a site that dictates these rules.If bad English can still get earnings then the less they worry about grammar and spellings the faster will be their earnings and their community will grow. There are sites where articles are written for requesters who expect good english and it is here that they often blindly refuse those whose second language is English although there will be many who can write better than these so called native speakers.
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@allknowing (153529)
• India
7 Oct 15
@MALUSE We are not supposed to point out errors here, else I would be spending most of my time too, teaching native speakers How about this one "I would of went with him" Yes. a native speaker. I remember in the good old myLot I had voiced my opinion about writing long posts vs short posts and had chosen short posts adding that we were taught precis writing while we were learning the language. Most of those from the US did not know the meaning of precis writing and they pounced on me assuming that I had made a typing error and the word should have been precise.
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@Gina145 (3949)
• Johannesburg, South Africa
10 Oct 15
@MALUSE I sometimes wonder if those people's English is really so bad or if they're just extremely careless. I try never to hit a submit button until I've proofread what I've written, and I get really embarrassed when I miss an obvious mistake. As for your last sentence, I hear that kind of bad English used on the radio all the time, and that's by professional journalists.
@LadyDuck (502653)
• Italy
7 Oct 15
What I see most of the time is that they ask for good written English, not necessary native English.
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@allknowing (153529)
• India
7 Oct 15
@LadyDuck If that was a condition before applying I would not have wasted my time there. .Some sites do not have countries in their drop down list that they do not want to include.
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@allknowing (153529)
• India
7 Oct 15
There are ,many sites that make that a stipulation. I have mentioned about that as a comment on Jabo's response.
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@LadyDuck (502653)
• Italy
7 Oct 15
@allknowing If they state this rule before you join and write, it's their right, but not if they said this after you submitted the text. A curiosity, for English do they mean British English or American English? It's not exactly the same.
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@pumpkinjam (8876)
• United Kingdom
7 Oct 15
I wonder if they mean 'native English' as in those who speak English as a native language OR to a similar standard. Saying that, I know plenty of 'native' English speakers whom I couldn't understand because their grasp of the language is worse than some non-native speakers! I think as long as you write clearly enough for a competent reader to understand, that should be all that's expected from sites such as this one. Of course, I think it may be different if it's a 'professional' site or something where it's expected to be of a higher standard.
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• United Kingdom
8 Oct 15
@allknowing In that case, it doesn't make sense that they only ask for native speakers. If they do a test then they should base it on the quality of the test.
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@allknowing (153529)
• India
7 Oct 15
Whatever the site a test is normally conducted to judge the quality of a writer. And being a native English speaker is no criterion according to me.
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@GardenGerty (169489)
• United States
7 Oct 15
Sites with those restrictions MAY screen out some sub par writers, but on the other hand they definitely WILL miss out on an exceptional talent pool. People who write in English in spite of being born to a different language often take great pride in writing with excellence beyond the expectations.
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@allknowing (153529)
• India
7 Oct 15
Atleast I try my best to do justice to the exposure I have had that has brought me to this level.
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@vandana7 (102698)
• India
7 Oct 15
Honestly, they have issues with their brains. Here I am trying to annihilate every other language so that we have environmentally friendly way of communicating, with little or no misunderstandings, and there are these folks desperately trying to show that they are superior somewhere if not everywhere.
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@allknowing (153529)
• India
7 Oct 15
Well said.The trouble is they have not done their home work about the exposure the world has to learn every single language that exists on earth and sometimes foreigners doing better than their own kind.
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@hereandthere (45628)
• Philippines
7 Oct 15
what if you are a native english speaker but moved or temporarily located in a different (non-english) country, you're disqualified too?
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@allknowing (153529)
• India
7 Oct 15
Anyway I really do not who is a native English speaker. As America is a conglomeration of those who have settled there from all over the globe. I do not know about UK though.
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@cgalavia (1436)
• Philippines
7 Oct 15
I have encountered like that but not all sites.There were few and I hate it because of judging one person without even trying what that person can do by speaking and yes there a lot of people who can speak and write fluently though English is not their first language.
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@skysnap (20152)
7 Oct 15
I think that is fair. I mean many of us in asian culture are social only within certain communities. so it's fair for business to employ certain people. and that's not discrimination.
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@allknowing (153529)
• India
7 Oct 15
And those that are social only within a certain culture will not apply for writing on such sites. Also there is a test there. Having said that there is no guarantee that many of those who are native English speakers are any better. I just picked this sentence from a post written by someone who is a native English speaker " I would of went with him" .
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@allknowing (153529)
• India
7 Oct 15
@skysnap .Everyone who aspires to write there is expected to write good English and even those whose first language is not English are quite adept at it and yet some snobbish sites exclude them. Their loss indeed. You may not do that but when I write I am particular that I check my grammar and spelling. Also, there are scores of Indians scattered all over the globe who write and speak impeccable English and many of them live in India.
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@skysnap (20152)
7 Oct 15
@allknowing Yes that is because native english speaker too make the mistakes. just like we make mistake in our own mother tongue but we don't check grammar right?
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@jstory07 (148749)
• Roseburg, Oregon
7 Oct 15
If you can speak and write in English than why not. I see nothing wrong with you being on any site.
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@allknowing (153529)
• India
7 Oct 15
But you do not own any sites. Unless you do
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@cahaya1983 (11116)
• Malaysia
7 Oct 15
Yeah it is kind of annoying. I think it's a common stereotype that native speakers can write/speak better than the non-native speakers. I think they're missing out.
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@allknowing (153529)
• India
7 Oct 15
Indeed they are. Their loss not mine. There is plenty of fish in the ocean and myLot is one such.
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