Do you give your recommendations to your friends/relatives who want to buy something?
By dpk262006
@dpk262006 (58679)
Delhi, India
June 20, 2016 5:21am CST
This one is going to be a lengthy post. Please bear with me, while reading the post.
The other day one of my friends called me and asked me to recommend a car dealer from where he could get the best price to buy a car of his choice. He did not reveal that he has already researched on this issue and visited various dealers.
I know a dealer and I was sure that he would offer the best price (minimum price) and recommended the same to him. I asked my friend to visit the Car Showroom and he could mention my name reference over there. He insisted that I should accompany him to the dealer.
Though, I was busy in other commitments, yet I agreed to accompany him. We reached at the Car Showroom and had a good conversation. When the person concerned offered him lowest price of the car, he was pleasantly surprised. There was a difference of around around Rupees 10,000/- in the price, which the dealer offered. However, the deal did not finalise because my friend wanted to exchange his old car at a higher price.
The dealer I recommended him was ready to exchange his car at Rs.90K but he said that he has been offered Rs. 1 lakh by some other dealer, so he is not happy with the exchange price. Although, the dealer said that he may be given one day and he might exchange his car for Rs. 1 lakh. However, my friend was not ready to wait even for one day. He dismissed the deal/offer and we came back. He and his wife blamed me that why I wasted their time and took them to dealer where they were not going to get the best deal.
I regretted my decision to accompany and recommend them the dealer and thought that it was perhaps foolish on my part to help them and save some money. Had he told me earlier about exchange price of his old car, I might have not accompanied him.
At the end of day I kept wondering whether I was wrong in helping them or I was too naive to understand they just wanted to check other dealer to make sure that they are the smartest in buying a car?
What is your take on this?
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@dpk262006 (58679)
• Delhi, India
21 Jun 16
Yes, this is what I also felt, as an afterthought. Otherwise, he is very nice and helpful but this time his behaviour was bit strange.
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@dpk262006 (58679)
• Delhi, India
23 Jun 16
@gudheart - You are welcome dear. You could say even the same thing as our friend Judy has said.
Yes, my friend did not seem to be very transparent with me, when he asked me to accompany him.
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@DaddyEvil (174797)
• United States
21 Jun 16
Uhm... dpk? I believe you may be asking the wrong question, sir.
In my humble opinion, the question you should be asking ... Is this person really my friend or simply someone who seeks to take advantage of the people I know and like and who like me?
When that person ask for your recommendation, it was implied that he wanted your specific knowledge of the car lots and the dealers he would encounter. Since he had already done a considerable amount of pricing both for the deal he might get and for the trade value of his old car, he was basically setting you up for failure.
It is very rare for the dealer who is willing to give the real "best price" for a trade in to also quote the best sale price for the new vehicle. Normally, the salesman gets his fee for selling the car from one end of the deal or the other. Your "friend" was trying to cut the salesman's fee completely out of the deal. That would not be fair to the salesman and certainly not for you to ask the salesman to do that, either.
I would be thinking long and hard about the implied worth of the friendship between you and him if your "friend" is willing to take advantage of you/your dealership friend like that.
At the very least, you now know that he is not going to give you credit for getting him the best price he could have paid for the new car... Which brings something else to mind...
Was your friend THAT sure he was going to get the dealer who was giving him the higher price for his trade-in going to be able to also match the sale price your dealer-friend quoted him? (I am willing to bet he finds out he has to pay that fee on one end or the other, no matter who he goes to for buying the car he wants.)
You did a fine job attempting to help your friend. You did better than he did himself, or he would have told you and the dealer you suggested that he was getting the car at that price already but was curious if you could encourage your salesman friend to beat the quote he was already given.
Hmmm... will you be able to find out what price he pays for the vehicle at his dealer and what he receives for his trade-in? (I mean reliably without having to depend on your "friend" to tell you the truth? I would be very interested in hearing whether he actually saved as much money as what he thinks he can save in that deal.)
To answer your question, yes, if someone asks me to give my recommendation on a subject that I am very familiar with, then yes, I will give my suggestion(s) as to what I believe I would do in the same situation.
But my friends also know that I am saying what I would do, not what I think they should do. I can only give them my knowledge. If they have knowledge beyond that, then they should have the good sense to know when to use or not use what they know.
I don't take responsibility for their choices. They came to me asking for a recommendation. They did not ask me to take responsibility for things I have no way to know.
You might also tell your friend you didn't agree to take responsibility to live his life for him. You only agreed to tell him what you would do in that situation. (See if that shuts him up! It should!
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@dpk262006 (58679)
• Delhi, India
21 Jun 16
You are right that question could have been drafted in a different manner. However, I just gave an example of a real life incidence to elaborate my point. My intention to start the post was – should I recommend something to a friend or not, even when asked for it? Or if anyone asks for my recommendation, should I avoid giving any kind of recommendation? This incident made me believe that people know everything and they just ask for your recommendations to strengthen their own findings. I thought from now onwards I should restrain myself from giving any kind of recommendations to such friends.
May be he was trying to prove that he is smarter than me and I was wrong in recommending him the Car dealer who offered him the lowest price.
Let me clear one thing here that I know the Chief Sales Manager and the owner of the Car agency and I had already bought my car from there. Chief Sales Manager knows the fact that I know the owner of the showroom also. In my case he gave me the best price on new car, as well as on my old car.
Yes, you are right that it is rare for the dealer who is willing to give the real "best price" for a trade in to also quote the best sale price for the new vehicle because when sales department for a new car and the department which buys the old car in exchange are two different departments and sometimes there may not be synch between them. (This is what I felt when we were negotiating to get the best price).
Yes, I requested the Chief Sales Manager that he should use his resources and clout to get the best exchange price for my friend’s old car also, so that my friend could get the best deal.
As regards finding the best price for which my friend is going to buy the car, I understand that as another dealer was offering him Rupees One lakh for his old car, and my suggested dealer was offering Rupees 90,000/-, therefore, the discount offered by my dealer in the new car was offset by the difference in exchange price.
I am now least interested to know how much the car actually cost him. Yesterday, only he (my friend) again phoned me and wanted me to accompany him again to another dealer to finalise the deal for his car, (where probably he got the best price and some free accessories) however, I politely declined him to accompany him.
It is good on your part that if asked for, you give your advice but you do not take responsibility for their decisions/final choice.
Thanks a lot for such an elaborate analysis of the matter. 

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@DaddyEvil (174797)
• United States
21 Jun 16
@Drosophila You DO? 

Is the world going to end now, Wendy?

How have you been doing this week? Or should I go look at your latest post? (I think I will do that, anyway! See you there!
)


Is the world going to end now, Wendy?

How have you been doing this week? Or should I go look at your latest post? (I think I will do that, anyway! See you there!
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@vandana7 (102699)
• India
21 Jun 16
Friendships break when recommendations go wrong. I have realized that. I invest in mutual funds. I suggested the same thing to one of my former neighbors. They did invest. But the market slumped. I have the patience; they don't. In any event, had those monies been with them, they would have circulated and got 2 percent interest per month! So..if they have better alternatives before them, I would avoid. Personally, I wait to be asked, and say ..I have done this, and I am satisfied, or so and so did it, and they are continuing or apparently satisfied.
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@dpk262006 (58679)
• Delhi, India
21 Jun 16
Yes, in your case, it would have tricky to give advice regarding investment in mutual funds. The market also remains volatile and some people do not have the patience. If they are in profit, they won't give you credit but the moment their value of their investment start to go South, they curse you for your giving them bad advice, without realizing that you only suggested to invest, it was they who finally took the decision to invest.
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@jayaramas (1353)
• Bangalore, India
20 Jun 16
As a mechanical engineer, i will give so many suggestions but most of them will have their own wish and buy some thing that i have not told!
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@dpk262006 (58679)
• Delhi, India
21 Jun 16
The point is - if asked for suggestion, you do not hesitate to give your advice. I understand that while rendering any advice, your intention might be to help the other person.
@Drosophila (16568)
• Ireland
21 Jun 16
I would have thought its your friend that have wasted your time. The 1 day thing was just an excuse to back out the deal. He must have gotten a similar offer else where and was curious to see if you could do better.
In my opinion it's a silly thing to do, as this probably cost a bit of your friendship than the few pennies he has saved.
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@dpk262006 (58679)
• Delhi, India
21 Jun 16
Yes, you are right I also felt the same way that he wasted my precious time and almost my day.
God knows whether he actually saved some money or not.
What pinched me that he did not trust me and did not realize that without any selfish interest, I was trying to help him to get best price for buying a new car.
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@dpk262006 (58679)
• Delhi, India
22 Jun 16
@Drosophila - Yes, you are very right, in future I will think twice before helping him.
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@Drosophila (16568)
• Ireland
21 Jun 16
@dpk262006 exactly! he used your friendship and good will to foot a bill.. which was totally unnecessary! guess he won't be able to call in a favour from you again! what a fool
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@ilocosboy (45155)
• Philippines
20 Jun 16
well for me i cannot decide yet.in the first place maybe they don't like the deal and they will blame me or they just folling me.next time make an alliby
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@dpk262006 (58679)
• Delhi, India
20 Jun 16
Do you mean to say that you would not recommend anyone for buying anything fearing that you may be blamed later if things do not turn out in their favour?
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@ilocosboy (45155)
• Philippines
20 Jun 16
@dpk262006 it's hard to decide that's why because am not sure of it
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@SIMPLYD (90717)
• Philippines
21 Jun 16
How ungrateful they are for you taking the time to accompany them to your recommended dealer . They might have not liked the dealer's price , but not blame you for wasting their time , just because they weren;t able to get the deal they like .
If they were my friends , they would surely hear a not so nice words from me . 
If they were my friends , they would surely hear a not so nice words from me . 
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@dpk262006 (58679)
• Delhi, India
21 Jun 16
Yes, what you have said seems correct. However, these are some lessons which we learn in our life.
Now I will think twice before giving any advice to him.
I did not want to say 'nice words' to my friend because otherwise he is a gentleman.
As our friend @sol_cee has mentioned that it seems that lately he has gone half wit.

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@dpk262006 (58679)
• Delhi, India
21 Jun 16
Her wife phoned me to said what was point in going to the dealer (which was suggested by me) when they did not get any substantial benefit (means as if I wasted their time). On the top of it she told me that I should not tell her husband about her and my phone conversation.
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@sofssu (23660)
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21 Jun 16
@dpk262006 She is really mean and sly. So your friend has no clue that his wife said this about you.. I wonder what he would say if he knew.
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@dpk262006 (58679)
• Delhi, India
23 Jun 16
@LadyDuck - Thanks for sharing such a meaningful quote
. I think I need to apply this quote in my life. 
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@dpk262006 (58679)
• Delhi, India
22 Jun 16
Yes, you are right that there are some people who even do not acknowledge our efforts and simply forget us once their job is over. This kind of attitude makes us feel irritated.
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@LadyDuck (502946)
• Italy
22 Jun 16
@dpk262006 We have a saying in my country "Do not help people if you are not strong enough to bear the ingratitude", I think it's true.
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@dpk262006 (58679)
• Delhi, India
21 Jun 16
There is nothing to feel sorry and you could always be blunt and honest while posting your comments. I also feel that my friend (who is otherwise a gentleman) has gone half wit
(if I am allowed to use your phrase).
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@dpk262006 (58679)
• Delhi, India
21 Jun 16
@sol_cee - Ha ha ha ha. Very well said.
I feel that some people think that they are very smart and they take the best decisions but sometimes their best decisions fall flat. Such may be the case with my friend.
I feel that some people think that they are very smart and they take the best decisions but sometimes their best decisions fall flat. Such may be the case with my friend.1 person likes this
@sol_cee (38669)
• Philippines
21 Jun 16
@dpk262006 it's actually a polite (?) word for idiot. lol
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@shshiju (10342)
• Cochin, India
23 Nov 16
What a shame your friend is not honest with you. He apparently approach you with business mind. So he not tell that he visited many showrooms. He mixed business and friendship and ruined your valuable time
and also blur the relationship of your generous friend.
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@dpk262006 (58679)
• Delhi, India
24 Nov 16
Yes, your observations are on the dot. He was not transparent with me. Never mind, these kind of incidents teach a lesson to us and I've learnt my lesson.
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@dpk262006 (58679)
• Delhi, India
25 Nov 16
@shshiju - Now, I would be very cautious before recommending anything to him.
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@shshiju (10342)
• Cochin, India
24 Nov 16
@dpk262006 Yes and I think there is chance he may consult you for other matter.
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@JESSY3236 (22286)
• United States
22 Jun 16
I don't think you was wrong. Your friend should told you up front what he wanted.
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@dpk262006 (58679)
• Delhi, India
23 Jun 16
Yes, this what I think also that he should have informed me earlier about the exact position and what he was expecting from me.
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@Gita17112016 (3611)
• Trinidad And Tobago
24 Nov 16
Hmmm, this could be quite a damaging situation to you. i think you friend has certainly put some strain in this relationship. I didn't like the fact that he requested your help and then decided that he could have gotten a better deal elsewhere. And, to be blamed of wasting THEIR time.
Some people are just inconsiderate as this.Okay, he probably had confidence in you that you could have gotten him a better deal...but what he did was wrong. If it were me approaching a friend for a favor or help, I would have stated up that I had visited other places, and even though I think I may have gotten a good deal, I would still like to try one more time to see if I could get yet something more in my benefit. So if he had then, decline the offer, it would not have been so disappointing to you.
I am sure you felt used. And in a way he did use you, even if it did not started out so.Very bad interactive skills. Because he had left you in the dark, you can't trust that the same situation would not repeat itself. So, next time you reach out to help him, you'll have to query if he already has something in mind.
i don't think you should end the friendship though...just put him in a category that bears being cautious. Well, that's my advice. (^_^)
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@dpk262006 (58679)
• Delhi, India
25 Nov 16
Thanks for your valuable inputs. Next time I would be more cautious before giving any kind of recommendations to him. I am continuing the friendship with him.















