It Finally Blew Up

@AmbiePam (120711)
United States
March 13, 2017 2:18am CST
So sometimes when I read a discussion I am totally lost. It will start out talking about how it went okay, and go on from there, but the post won't make any mention of what "it" is. I guess they assume people will know what they're talking about if they are on their friend list. Well, it is impossible for us to read each and every discussion someone posts, so often I don't know what they are referring to. So in my own discussions I try to give a little background so if someone has never read my discussion they'll be clued in to what I'm talking about. Now I'm thinking of giving that up. It's getting to be a lot to write about if I'm also going to include the never ending problem of my how my uncle is with my grandmother. But I'll try again: my mother died at 55 of dementia, my maternal grandfather died before she did, also of dementia, but a different form. My uncle (60) is a sociopath. He lives next door to my grandmother (80) and uses her for everything. He is addicted to pain pills and often falls and makes himself worse because he has no idea what he's doing. He recently fell and didn't want to go to the doctor. He can hardly walk now and was calling my grandmother around 25 times a day (no exaggeration) to do things ranging from bringing him a bottle to urinate in, to turning his heat up, and then turning his heat down. I live 2 1/2 hours away, so I can't do much. I spent a week with her in the beginning of January and saw how terrible the situation was. While I was there I tried to do everything he asked so she wouldn't have to. Ironically, she was aggravated he'd ask me to do anything. My grandmother acknowledges to everyone, BUT my uncle how troublesome he is, how much he is in the wrong, and how he should be in a nursing home instead of her doing everything for him. He appears to have no clue she minds waiting on him hand and foot. And believe me, I told him he was ruining her life. So she had to go to the hospital, which I wrote about last week or the week before. She was in for a little over a week with pneumonia. During that time she apparently had enough, but she didn't deal with it the way we all hoped she would. Instead of telling him she needed him to take care of himself and that he needed to go in a home and she couldn't wait on him hand and foot (she's had back surgeries ruined because she tried to pick him up when he fell). Nope, she decided she's selling her house and going to a nursing home herself. She's also having my dad sell her car so she literally has no way of doing anything for her son. She can't seem to actually put her foot down so instead of him doing what should be done, she's selling her last connection to my grandfather. This is a woman who can do anything, as long as she isn't bearing the stress of taking care of my uncle. She's an excellent driver, never in an accident, and never a ticket. So she's not giving it all up because she's incompetent. She realizes he's going to end up killing her, and she's taking it out of his hands When I talked to her a couple of weeks ago she was so torn up she was leaving her home she spent with my grandfather. But she'd rather do that than having it out with my uncle. I realize he is her child. But I can't fully explain the horrible things he has done. His own daughters won't speak to him. He's stolen pain medications from his parents, his in laws, and even me. There is so much more, but it's already too long. *She originally told him she was selling his house (because she and my grandfather bought it for him) as well as hers and he would have to go to a home, but after he got angry she backed off and told him he could stay in the house as long as she could afford it.
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@much2say (57760)
• Los Angeles, California
14 Mar 17
I know people will problem solve in different ways . . . but a part of me wishes your grandmother stood up to her son to take all that weight off her shoulders - the man needs to know!! She has made a lot of sacrifices for him and he doesn't seem to be the least bit grateful . . . that is so not fair to her. And now she is making very big sacrifices . . . she is letting go of all the things she should not have to give up . . . all for the sake of getting rid of her "problem" once and for all. I am sad for her . . . and all I could think why she will not confront your uncle is because she doesn't want to lose "him". She'll wants so much to lose the baggage that comes with him, but doesn't want to lose that relationship with him.
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@DianneN (254926)
• United States
15 Mar 17
Wow! All I can say is it's about time and good for her!!!
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@GardenGerty (169448)
• United States
15 Mar 17
It is at least a beginning. She may also be tying up loose ends so that when she passes no one else has to deal with the sale of the family home. She is a kind and brave woman. Even brave people have a few things that they cannot deal with, and this uncle is one of them.
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@AmbiePam (120711)
• United States
15 Mar 17
She set up her wishes for her house and everything several years ago. My mom used to be in charge of her will, but when she got dementia they changed it to my sister. Bless my sister's heart. She's now literally in charge of everything to do with my grandmother, now including paying her monthly bills and everything. My sister is the one handling the sale of the house. My grandmother was just like, I'm done. I don't want to deal with anything so I'm handing this mess to someone else. It's good for my grandmother, but stressful for my sister. However, as I'll get into in another post, that has made for a little trouble for my uncle. And it's about time someone made him accept responsibility for something.
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@katsmeow1213 (28716)
• United States
13 Mar 17
Well good for her! I can understand her wanting to do it this way. I can see myself being that way with my own kids. I get tired of fighting with them. They have responsibilities, but it's a struggle to get them to do anything. Some days I don't have the energy for the struggle, so I let it go. I'll do the dishes myself even if it's their turn. We still have that struggle with the oldest also. He has 2 moods.. if you catch him in a good mood it's great, but if you catch him in a bad mood it will be a struggle. Since I don't know what mood he'll be in, I try not to tackle bigger issues with him. Hubby wanted the son to start paying for his own cell phone. We've been paying it since he got it, like 3 years ago. He's been moved out of the house almost a year and we still pay it. It's getting harder for us, and we want him to give us the $50 for his phone, or get his own plan. I made hubby tackle that because I didn't want to fight with my son.. even though everyone could see we were in the right here... Thankfully it wasn't a struggle.. Point is, I can see why your grandmother would rather move herself than struggle with her son.
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@AmbiePam (120711)
• United States
13 Mar 17
I just want him to know it's all his fault. I've been told not to say anything to him, but he's oblivious to the fact that he's the cause. And girl, he's already done more. I just haven't written about it yet. A sixty year old man calling his 80 year old mother in a home because he thinks my sister is being mean to him. All because my sister wouldn't drive 40 minutes to open my grandmother's garage so he could get trash bags. I'm sorry you're having problems with your son. It seems tough to know if it's their age or something else. It's good for everyone that I am not a parent. I would screw up so badly.
@AmbiePam (120711)
• United States
13 Mar 17
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• United States
13 Mar 17
@AmbiePam I wouldn't say we're having problems with him.. but like anyone, he has bad moods sometimes and I just avoid bringing up possible sensitive subjects when he might be in a bad mood.. Unfortunately I don't think your uncle will ever see or care that it's his fault. Even if you were to tell him, he'd just call his mother and tell her you're being mean to him. Some people will never change. It's funny though, I've never really seen you so ticked off at anyone before. I mean I've felt this way about your sister on more than one occasion when you'd vent about how rude she can be, but you forgive and move on. Yet your uncle is a totally different story! I was starting to think you were just too darn nice and didn't have it in you to be mad at anyone! I was wrong.. Of course you have every right to feel as you do.. I'm simply making an observation.
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@BelleStarr (61463)
• United States
15 Mar 17
I don't think a nursing home is the place for an active woman like your grandmother, maybe assisted living or a senior apartment community where she would have things to do but in a nursing home she will pay massive amounts of money for a level of care she obviously doesn't need herself. Just my thoughts, my mom is in a nursing home and within weeks of entering she was in a wheelchair and incontenent since it was too dangerous for her to walk (they are afraid of falls) and they didn't take her to the bathroom when she asked, they made her wait. All this for $10,0000 a month.
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@AmbiePam (120711)
• United States
15 Mar 17
She recently transferred to an assisted living facility. She's not happy because she depends on others for transportation, but she is the one who decided to sell her car.
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@BelleStarr (61463)
• United States
15 Mar 17
@AmbiePam Do facilities and some cities offer transportation to senior citizens so hopefully she will get used to that or she can just get another ar.
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@BelleStarr (61463)
• United States
15 Mar 17
@AmbiePam yes I understand
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@Juliaacv (56207)
• Canada
13 Mar 17
Its difficult to say if I am relieved that your grandmother will be rid of the constant demands of your uncle and will be with others her own age and won't have to worry about housecleaning, laundry or grocery shopping, not to mention the many aspects of keeping up a home, but it is difficult. I am torn between saying that it is a relief because I don't know if she has honestly come to this decision on her own, was her doctor an influence in this? I ask that because of the pain associated with giving up a home that means so much to her. She must be a wonderful mother, I thought of this initially, because it must be the easiest way or her to get what she truly needs without hurting her son and possibly damaging their relationship. Her actions represent strength, love and devotion, and if the uncle doesn't recognize that, I hope that the rest of the family sees it for what it is and remains supportive to her. You know, she may have prayed on this for a long time and found this to be the only win~win situation. I wish her luck with the transition. With moving myself I know that the many loving memories that we made here are portable, and tucked away like delicate lace in a drawer, but are in my heart, and there are days that I open the drawer and unfold them and recall them with a smile on my face and increased warmth in my heart. May she do the same.
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@AmbiePam (120711)
• United States
13 Mar 17
I think her sisters helped her decide to move. They begged her to put him in a home months ago, and she got angry (1 sister lives in another state and only came down when the other sister got worried about her health), but my guess is that they tried again, and after she refused they might have told her she could always go to a home and make it impossible for him to use her. She told me she's tired and is sick of my uncle being so selfish. I agree if she won't spell it out to him this is the best thing for her. My objection is that he's the only one not realizing he's the problem. I guess part of me hoped if he was told by her what he was doing to her he'd change enough where things could be better for her.
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@Juliaacv (56207)
• Canada
13 Mar 17
@AmbiePam He is beyond needing help himself I think.
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@marsha32 (6631)
• United States
13 Mar 17
Something to think about, knowing that not everyone sees every post. No, I hadn't seen many of your posts actually, but do remember reading about some of this issue. Sounds like a family feud.....and a ton of stress all the way around.
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@sishy7 (27166)
• Australia
14 Mar 17
Sad situation for your grandmother. I hope the decision will give her some peace of mind and more importantly, allow her to enjoy the rest of her life...
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@OreoBrownie (3755)
• Commerce, Georgia
10 Apr 17
I hate she feels she must sell it all to be free of her free loading son. Maybe it is for the best. Maybe she should stand up to him and shame him. He's a real piece of work.
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@AmbiePam (120711)
• United States
12 Apr 17
Oh, I wish she would have stood up to him. I begged her so many times to just tell him no.
• United States
13 Mar 17
Wow! Just wow! I am a little confused though, is this your father's mother or your mother's mother? I really wish someone else would step in and intervene for your grandmother. She should not have to leave her home just to get away from her son! If he is bad enough to go to a nursing home, isn't he bad enough to have a nurse or in home aide for himself? Would that not take some of the burden off your grandmother? For that matter, an 80 year old woman SHOULD NOT have to be picking up a 50 year old man.
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• United States
13 Mar 17
@AmbiePam He sounds like a freeloader. I'm sorry but it's true! I just can't get over her moving to get away from him. She obviously loves that home so much, and it holds so many memories. It just makes me so angry to think of that!
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@LadyDuck (502429)
• Italy
13 Mar 17
I am so sorry that she has to take this decision, but I can understand. Her son is doing nothing good for her and she needs a safer place where to stay.
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@Tampa_girl7 (54715)
• United States
17 Mar 17
That is a terrible situation. I hope that it will all work itself out
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@JudyEv (382036)
• Rockingham, Australia
13 Mar 17
This really is a very sad situation. I guess she has dealt with it in the only way she knows how. I'm sorry it has come to this.
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@FayeHazel (40230)
• United States
16 Mar 17
I am so sorry that things had to get that bad. As a sociopath , uncle will never, ever understand what it is he is doing to her. She shouldn't have to give up her freedoms, but - as hard as this may be - maybe it is a good thing in the long run? Many people resist going in nursing home even when it is the proper time, and many resist giving up driving (even when they aren't safe drivers any more) -- so maybe is alright, as sad as that is. What would happen if she'd just refuse? (No, I won't come turn your heat up/down.)? I know, things are seldom that easy in a family. I wish the best for your gran -- a lot of nursing homes have fantastic entertainment and day programs... so maybe it will be a blessing in disguise
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@AmbiePam (120711)
• United States
16 Mar 17
Well, the good thing is that they got her into an assisted living facility. I think even if she said no to him at first, she'd eventually give in, because you and I both know how manipulative people like that are. You're right. He won't ever understand, and I know I've got to move past it.
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@FayeHazel (40230)
• United States
16 Mar 17
@AmbiePam Oh assisted living - that's better! One of my friends works at an assisted living facility. Says it's really nice, nice meals, fine dining options, activities... Her brother (a single man, active lifestyle) works at one as well. As part of his wage he can have an empty room - which he often chooses to stay at other than his own him because he prefers it. Ah, yes... it's so easy from the outside to think that a simple "no" would work. But you're right, certain people can be very convincing conniving and they've had so many years of this behavior already. Are other family aware? I hope uncle doesn't ensnare others, too.
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@Fishmomma (11658)
• United States
17 Mar 17
I'm sorry that she decided this is the solution. It would be hard to watch this happen to any of my relatives and not sure what I would do if it was me. Sometimes the solution that would take the stress off is the best solution.