@ElusiveButterfly is a good detective, more about Hatley

@GardenGerty (112466)
United States
June 2, 2018 5:42pm CST
I called Hatley's cell phone, it is no longer in service. I called Westminster Villa, and the number I got was some kid who only answered because my number from Kansas came up and he thought I might be a friend from KU. I got the number online, from two different sites and it was Totally Wrong. After some research, I found another number for the retirement home. I called and was told the number had been changed and that the new number was unknown. @ElusiveButterfly had messaged me with a number for a rehab center in southern California, because that is where Robby said she was. EB got it right. I called and they connected me to Hatley. Technically they should not have due to privacy laws, but they did. She could not hear me very well and needed to go soon, but she KNOWS that we here at myLot are worried for her. She sounded good. But there is a problem. Patsie just was told that Westminster Villa will no longer accept her as a resident. She has to find a new home, and find a way to get her things. I think they just told her yesterday or today. She is in Seal Beach, and the only way her son can get there is to find someone with a car to take him. If she had a place to stay, I would try to come up with time and money to go move her myself. Patsie says she can stay at the Rehab center until she has a new place to go, and that they are really nice to her. Do not get the wrong idea about her former place. If she requires more care than they can provide they CANNOT keep her there. It is licensed as an assisted living facility, not a Long Term Care or Health Care facility. It probably was out of their hands and all up to Medicare and Medicaid or who ever. I told you guys I would post more, so now you have it.
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@Corbin5 (149129)
• United States
2 Jun 18
Yes, we had to move my dad from an assisted living facility to a nursing home due to his need for more specialized care. Dad had emergency after emergency at the assisted living facility and one huge one cemented the decision to move Dad to the nursing home just a few minutes drive from all family. I am sure she will get some help finding a new place and transportation will be provided. Sure wish I lived near her so that I could offer some help too.
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@GardenGerty (112466)
• United States
2 Jun 18
Social Services there at the Rehab should help her, but we feel helpless here.
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@cacay1 (42295)
• Cagayan De Oro, Philippines
3 Jun 18
@Corbin5, I am happy to learn in this post your dad was transfered to a high facility nursing home. We only have one dad .May he live for another plenty years.I have missed you.
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• United States
3 Jun 18
@GardenGerty There is no worse feeling than the feeling of helplessness. It seems like I have had that a lot too. I just wish I had my place still and could take Hatley in. But I live about 400 miles away so not only would it be a heck of a commute but it would be really tough on Hatley making the trip. Also I live waaaaayyyy out in the country so if there was a medical emergency we would either have to bundle her into the car and drive 40+ miles to the nearest hospital or call for the air ambulance to come and get her. I really wish I could do more for her! It's so tough being in our positions right now! You and Hatley are both in my prayers and I am hoping that you can find a place for her to stay that will be right for her. L & H Toni
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@JohnRoberts (84952)
• Los Angeles, California
2 Jun 18
Thanks for the update/ Hopefully things will work out for her.
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@GardenGerty (112466)
• United States
2 Jun 18
If this was a movie we would be forming a convoy starting in New England headed west to help Patsie find a new place and get moved. She is worrying about her computer at Westminster.
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• Midland, Michigan
3 Jun 18
@GardenGerty is that something her son could pick up and keep safe for her? Or maybe that's not a good idea either?
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@cacay1 (42295)
• Cagayan De Oro, Philippines
3 Jun 18
@GardenGerty, let us hope , what a pity for her if only she is near us we might extend some help.
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@PatZAnthony (13835)
• Charlotte, North Carolina
2 Jun 18
Thank you for these details. We've all been wondering and asking!
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@GardenGerty (112466)
• United States
2 Jun 18
Oh, I know. I was hoping it was better than it is.
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@cacay1 (42295)
• Cagayan De Oro, Philippines
3 Jun 18
I am also thankful that I learned about the situation of Hatley. Many long for her presence here.
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@just4him (161970)
• Green Bay, Wisconsin
2 Jun 18
I'm glad you were able to talk to her. I hope everything works out for her new living facility. It's sad they pulled that on her while she was in rehab.
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@GardenGerty (112466)
• United States
2 Jun 18
I am sure the fall and the diabetes and her overall failing eyesight and hearing made it necessary. It does feel rotten, though.
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@just4him (161970)
• Green Bay, Wisconsin
3 Jun 18
@GardenGerty Yes, it does feel rotten.
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@cacay1 (42295)
• Cagayan De Oro, Philippines
3 Jun 18
@just4him, it is not easy to reach old age when problems strike. let us pray our friend be okay this time.
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• Lenox, Georgia
2 Jun 18
I'm glad you explained that because at first I was hurt for her about them telling her she has to go elsewhere-at least it does make sense even if it's not the ideal situation. Gosh, poor Hatley. =( I wish things were better for her. I will be praying for her and her situation with housing. Thank you for updating us!
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@GardenGerty (112466)
• United States
2 Jun 18
I hope the prayers carry her along, but I wish I could put feet on those prayers and DO something.
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• Lenox, Georgia
3 Jun 18
@GardenGerty I so wish I could do something also but unfortunately I can't. However, I will be praying God sends her the angel she needs to help her.
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@Shavkat (76686)
• Philippines
3 Jun 18
It is nice of you to give some updates. It has been a long that I haven't seen her. The last time I've heard she had a fall accident.
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@cacay1 (42295)
• Cagayan De Oro, Philippines
3 Jun 18
@Shavkat , how hard life like that in old age and housing is a problem. Let us hope she has finally found a new home so she can continue her usual activities.
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@Shavkat (76686)
• Philippines
3 Jun 18
@cacay1 I agree. I hope she can recover fast. It is nice that you're here, my friend. I thought no one will reply my comment.lol
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@GardenGerty (112466)
• United States
3 Jun 18
@Shavkat I reply to comments on my posts always. She did have a fall, broke her wrist. It turns out she had pneumonia as well.
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@AmbiePam (51136)
• United States
2 Jun 18
Oh, that's not good. Nursing homes are usually so bad. I hope she'll be okay. I'm glad to hear she is better.
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@GardenGerty (112466)
• United States
2 Jun 18
The facilities, even the ones like Westminster are the worst for people who do not have regular visitors checking in on them.
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• Midland, Michigan
3 Jun 18
Thanks for this information. I'd not heard that she wasn't at the residence currently. Was she in rehab because of her wrist or other reasons? I'm sure they will help her move also. When my husband spent a few months in a long term care/rehab facility in 2014, they drove him to appointments two hours away until he could bend his legs to get into a car. Has she been there all this time do you think?
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@GardenGerty (112466)
• United States
3 Jun 18
She went to the hospital because of her fall and wrist.They discovered she had pneumonia. She was in the hospital a while then was released to rehab. I hope they are good to her.
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• Midland, Michigan
3 Jun 18
@GardenGerty I hope she is well taken care of and that her wrist is much better. It would also be nice if she got glasses again to see better.
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@GardenGerty (112466)
• United States
3 Jun 18
@MarshaMusselman You know there is no provision in medicare or medicaid for glasses, dentures, or hearing aids. We do not take care of our elderly well at all, and I am one.
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@BelleStarr (46203)
• United States
3 Jun 18
This is heartbreaking. I am wondering if we could get her a tablet, they are so inexpensive these days and with the tablet, she could go online. Just a thought, I would love to be able to help her in some way.
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@NJChicaa (60886)
• United States
3 Jun 18
I doubt a tablet would do any good. She can barely see.
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• United States
3 Jun 18
Actually Netbooks are so inexpensive now, and the screen is large enough that I can see it without without my glasses without too much trouble. When my house burned down Bill got me both a tablet and a netbook to keep me on track with my communications with both the business and all my friends. Netbooks start around $75 (or less) and can go up to about $150.
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@BelleStarr (46203)
• United States
3 Jun 18
@BearArtistLady That is certainly encouraging news, I hope we can do something, I feel so helpless.
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• United States
3 Jun 18
She should try to find an advocate in the community for the elderly. Here we have a service for the elderly that will help her find a new place that will accommodate her needs. The social worker at the rehab should be setting these things up for her. Hopefully they will find a place closer to where here son resides so he may visit her more often. I am glad that you were able to connect with her. Thank you for doing so. You have a big heart lady.
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@GardenGerty (112466)
• United States
3 Jun 18
In Kansas that would be an Ombudsman. Yes, Social Services at the rehab is likely helping her, but that would be a suggestion.
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@katsmeow1213 (28926)
• United States
2 Jun 18
The poor dear. I am surprised how difficult it was to get the phone number, that seems a bit odd to me
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@GardenGerty (112466)
• United States
3 Jun 18
It did seem very creepy about Westminster. Seal Beach was a piece of cake, as Sarina had looked it up.
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@cacay1 (42295)
• Cagayan De Oro, Philippines
3 Jun 18
I am so sad about what had happen to our friend @Hatley. I missed to see her different art designs in her posts. let us pray she would be okay and that she could be nursed and cared well. If she is just near, I can offer some help, but distance cannot make my dream to happen for her. I just pray for her better living tis time.
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@Shavkat (76686)
• Philippines
3 Jun 18
I also remembered that she consistently being here before. I hope she can get back to her strength physically and have a very nice abode.
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@GardenGerty (112466)
• United States
3 Jun 18
@Shavkat and @cacay1 I know we would all love to help her if we could.
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@Shavkat (76686)
• Philippines
3 Jun 18
@GardenGerty If I am close to her, I can personally treat her. It is a good service from a Physiotherapist.
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@cintol (10776)
• United States
3 Jun 18
Great job in tracking her, you should be a detective. Sorry to hear she has to find a new place to live, she will probably have to move into an assisted living home where she can get the help she will need to recover
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@GardenGerty (112466)
• United States
3 Jun 18
Westminster Villa was an assisted living placement. She called it retirement home but it is licensed as Assisted Living. I think she probably needs a health care facility with more health care professionals on site.
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@cintol (10776)
• United States
3 Jun 18
@GardenGerty That could be, they are probably thinking more of a nursing home for her then if assisted living can no longer take care of her.
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@GardenGerty (112466)
• United States
3 Jun 18
@cintol I know that in Kansas there are assessments that a person must be given to see if they can safely stay in a certain level of care.
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@BarBaraPrz (23489)
• St. Catharines, Ontario
3 Jun 18
Thank you for the continuing news of Patsie's situation.
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@GardenGerty (112466)
• United States
3 Jun 18
I am trying to keep up because we all want to know.
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@BarBaraPrz (23489)
• St. Catharines, Ontario
3 Jun 18
@GardenGerty You're right about that. I want to know what she's having for breakfast.
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@GardenGerty (112466)
• United States
3 Jun 18
@BarBaraPrz You mean my breakfast won't help? I was always glad to read those posts because it did show that there were options that suited her diabetes and diverticular disease.
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@1hopefulman (42851)
• Canada
3 Jun 18
Thanks for sharing this with us. I hope she finds a place where they can take care of her.
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@cacay1 (42295)
• Cagayan De Oro, Philippines
3 Jun 18
@1hopefulman, let us she has found a new place where she could perform many things freely.
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@GardenGerty (112466)
• United States
3 Jun 18
I hope someone is helping her. I know how the process works in Kansas, but she is over 1500 miles away from here.
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@1hopefulman (42851)
• Canada
4 Jun 18
@cacay1 Yes. let us hope!
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@sjvg1976 (18336)
• Delhi, India
3 Jun 18
Glad to know about Patsie. Hope so she finds a new home soon. Read center are doing this for her betterment only.
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@cacay1 (42295)
• Cagayan De Oro, Philippines
3 Jun 18
@sjvg1976, she might be thinking about us here and her usual activities in this site. She will be missed.Let us hope she is fine this time.
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@GardenGerty (112466)
• United States
3 Jun 18
She sounded okay, but could not hear me very well.
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@rebelann (50900)
• El Paso, Texas
24 Jun 18
Maybe if you try either a higher or lower octave @GardenGerty it kinda worked when I had to use a more bass kinda tone for mom to hear me.
@Hannihar (65894)
3 Jun 18
@GardenGerty Thank you all three for letting us know what is happening with her.
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@GardenGerty (112466)
• United States
3 Jun 18
We are trying the best we can long distance.
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@Hannihar (65894)
4 Jun 18
@GardenGerty You are a good friend to care and want to help her.
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@peavey (16872)
• United States
3 Jun 18
Thank you so much for posting this! It's good to know what is going on with her.
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@GardenGerty (112466)
• United States
3 Jun 18
I wish it was better news.
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@peavey (16872)
• United States
3 Jun 18
@GardenGerty Yes, I do, too. I hope she knows how badly she is missed.
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• Defuniak Springs, Florida
2 Jun 18
Can she live with her son
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@GardenGerty (112466)
• United States
2 Jun 18
They do not make enough combined income to pay for a place that they could both live in, and I imagine she needs more care than he can give.
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@cacay1 (42295)
• Cagayan De Oro, Philippines
3 Jun 18
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@sallypup (31682)
• Moses Lake, Washington
3 Jun 18
Thank you very much for this information. I have been wondering and praying for dear Patsie. Please let me know if there is anything I can do, even sending a little cash. I wish I could do more. Again, thank you.
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@GardenGerty (112466)
• United States
3 Jun 18
I am just watching as things are unfolding. I may try to get info from the Rehab center. It will not be until Tuesday, though.
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