The teacher from Hell?

@TheHorse (238342)
Walnut Creek, California
March 15, 2019 4:01pm CST
Man oh man! There's a new teacher at the preschool where I've been working as a behavioral specialist (glorified preschool teacher) and I find her really hard to work with. She's extremely controlling, and says things to the kids like, "No talking while eating until you're done. We're not here to have fun." This is to a bunch of 3- and 4-year-olds. Today at lunch, she said "Raise your hand if you want some cucumber." My young friend Chance, a foster kid with whom I have been working closely, said, a few minutes later, "May I please have some cucumber?" She said, "No, you did not raise your hand." She could undo everything positive that I've done for this kid! Earlier, she had done one of the lamest teacher-directed projects I've ever seen, having kids (remember, we're talking 3- and 4-year-olds) glue a capital "A" to a lower case "a." She didn't even bring any crayons or markers over so the kids could "enhance" their "art works." (I did.) I hope the director asks us about her after a couple of weeks. Have you ever had to work with someone whose philosophy is entirely different from yours? I've been trained to let younger children learn by doing, and using a process called "scaffolding" (helping them only when they need it) to facilitate their growth. I'm a tad frustrated.
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@wolfgirl569 (135910)
• Marion, Ohio
16 Mar 19
I would go off. He asked politely so should have been given a cucumber. That is great from kids that age.
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@LadyDuck (502653)
• Italy
16 Mar 19
@wolfgirl569 My same feeling, she asked politely, it was wrong not to give her.
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@wolfgirl569 (135910)
• Marion, Ohio
16 Mar 19
@TheHorse Yes he could have been told that he could have them but please try to raise his hand the next time also. I hope they get enough complaints to do something before she does much harm.
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@TheHorse (238342)
• Walnut Creek, California
16 Mar 19
Yep. And he is a kid who has gone from foster care home to foster care home. I've worked intensely with him and his behavioral gains are pretty impressive (and not just because of my work). I want to see him treated well by other teachers.
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• Sonora, California
15 Mar 19
That sounds like she doesn’t seem suited to work with Children that young!
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@TheHorse (238342)
• Walnut Creek, California
15 Mar 19
That's my impression as well.
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@much2say (57760)
• Los Angeles, California
16 Mar 19
Wow, just wow . . . she's too militant for little ones of this age. I can't imagine that the children would respond well to this control freak!
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@much2say (57760)
• Los Angeles, California
17 Mar 19
@TheHorse She actually sounds like the TA in my son's class. They are 3rd graders and she even says ineffective controlling things that turn the kids off rather than teach them anything.
@TheHorse (238342)
• Walnut Creek, California
16 Mar 19
I wouldn't think so either.
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@andriaperry (118793)
• Anniston, Alabama
15 Mar 19
I would not wait, refusal of food would send me on a rant the same day. Sure there are rules but like you said, these are babies learning, and learning about how mean someone can be when they ask for food. I feel like as long as the kids will eat it, let them, some do not have food at home or some are picky eaters.
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@TheHorse (238342)
• Walnut Creek, California
19 Mar 19
I don't want to see my little friends be afraid of someone.
@arunima25 (93194)
• Bangalore, India
16 Mar 19
I am on the same page as you. I follow the same philosophy like you do when dealing with children especially young ones. I think she needs some child psychology lessons badly. Such controlling behavior can be damaging to the self esteem and trust of the child. Maybe she is unaware of it. If I were you I would have approached for a polite talk. After all our children are our priority. I luckily had colleagues who were open to talk and take or give suggestions.
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@TheHorse (238342)
• Walnut Creek, California
16 Mar 19
As the only male there, I'm afraid to say anything.
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@TheHorse (238342)
• Walnut Creek, California
17 Mar 19
@arunima25 Good suggestion. I'm not sure at this point.
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@arunima25 (93194)
• Bangalore, India
17 Mar 19
@TheHorse I would say that it might be causing some hesitation. But think of children and go for a professional and polite talk. I hope she would be receptive as you have experience of working with children. Or if there is some coworker who can be of help??
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@Nevena83 (66063)
• Serbia
15 Mar 19
It sounds awful, with children it takes first love.
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@TheHorse (238342)
• Walnut Creek, California
15 Mar 19
It does indeed.
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@BarBaraPrz (51837)
• St. Catharines, Ontario
16 Mar 19
How did she get hired?
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@BarBaraPrz (51837)
• St. Catharines, Ontario
16 Mar 19
@TheHorse Too bad she doesn't believe in them.
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@TheHorse (238342)
• Walnut Creek, California
16 Mar 19
She probably said all of the right things during her interview.
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@TheHorse (238342)
• Walnut Creek, California
17 Mar 19
@BarBaraPrz Exactly. My friend the Preschool Director (where I used to work) and I were discussing the very same thing. One can say all the right things but not do them. If I were a Director (I just got my Director's Permit back after letting it expire years ago) I'd put prospective teachers in the classroom with the kids and see how they interacted.
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@LadyDuck (502653)
• Italy
16 Mar 19
Some things she teaches are right. As an example "No talking while eating" is correct, because talking with a full mouth is really something horrible and once you get the habit you do not change. Refusing to give the cucumber when the kid asked so politely is terrible wrong. The correct way (is she wanted to be strict) would have been "as you asked so politely I am giving you, the nest time remember to raise your hand).
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@TheHorse (238342)
• Walnut Creek, California
16 Mar 19
But we've never had them raise their hands for food before. Asking politely is what we've taught. She is new and should check in with teachers who have been there about protocol for certain things. Also, you don't need NO talking while eating to teach a child not to talk with their mouth full. Good "dinner table conversation" is one of the predictors of good language development.
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@LadyDuck (502653)
• Italy
16 Mar 19
@TheHorse I have the habit, the nuns did not want to hear a voice while we were eating. May be the poor woman has been in a nuns college. Catholic Friars, Priests and Nuns must do not say a word while they eat.
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@TheHorse (238342)
• Walnut Creek, California
16 Mar 19
@LadyDuck Interesting. In my family, we ate and talked and talked and ate. But we kept our elbows off of the table, sad please, and didn't chew with our mouths open. We also "asked to be excused" when we wanted to leave the dinner table.
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@DianneN (254926)
• United States
16 Mar 19
I think she is not fit for the job. She sounds like the Gestapo in my opinion. She should be observed by the director.
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@TheHorse (238342)
• Walnut Creek, California
17 Mar 19
Maybe THAT's what I'll suggest to the director.
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@DianneN (254926)
• United States
17 Mar 19
@norcal (4889)
• Franklinton, North Carolina
19 Mar 19
What a mean lady! Someone should smack her hand with a ruler.
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@TheHorse (238342)
• Walnut Creek, California
21 Mar 19
Maybe she was smacked with a ruler too many times in her childhod days.
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@TheHorse (238342)
• Walnut Creek, California
21 Mar 19
@norcal I agree. I hate seeing fear in children's eyes.
@norcal (4889)
• Franklinton, North Carolina
21 Mar 19
@TheHorse Maybe so, but she needs to get over it if she'd going to be responsible for teaching kids.
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@Hannihar (130150)
• Israel
17 Apr 19
@TheHorse I am so sorry. So if the director does not ask can you get her fired?
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@TheHorse (238342)
• Walnut Creek, California
17 Apr 19
Last time I worked with her she seemed to have mellowed a bit. Maybe someone spoke with her.
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@Hannihar (130150)
• Israel
17 Apr 19
@TheHorse I am glad that she mellowed a bit. I hope she mellows more than a bit.
@nela13 (59365)
• Portugal
16 Mar 19
Someone must tell that teacher that she is in a preschool not in the army.
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@TheHorse (238342)
• Walnut Creek, California
16 Mar 19
Well said!
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@TheHorse (238342)
• Walnut Creek, California
16 Mar 19
@nela13 We shall see what happens.
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@nela13 (59365)
• Portugal
16 Mar 19
@TheHorse those poor little children will have nightmares with their teacher.
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@porwest (112864)
• United States
16 Mar 19
OMG. Is it Maluse???
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@TheHorse (238342)
• Walnut Creek, California
16 Mar 19
No comment.
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@porwest (112864)
• United States
16 Mar 19
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@Nana49 (3399)
• United States
16 Mar 19
When she wouldn't give the kid the cucumber i would had a talk with her .. She doesn't sound like she enjoys working with younger kids..
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@TheHorse (238342)
• Walnut Creek, California
17 Mar 19
Good point! Ahd JOY at working with kids (or parenting) is one of the predictors of good attachment and positive outcomes, according to developmental researcher Mary Dozier.
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@TheHorse (238342)
• Walnut Creek, California
21 Mar 19
@Nana49 I am encountering many control freaks. It discourages me abut the field.
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@Nana49 (3399)
• United States
17 Mar 19
@TheHorse i dont think everyone is meant for the job .. It takes special kind loving person
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@GardenGerty (169505)
• United States
16 Mar 19
She does not seem like she belongs there at all.
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@TheHorse (238342)
• Walnut Creek, California
19 Mar 19
She is not watched closely by her superiors. I am worried.
@vandana7 (102698)
• India
19 Mar 19
How did she get certification for such profession?
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@TheHorse (238342)
• Walnut Creek, California
19 Mar 19
I have NO frigging clue!
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@Hate2Iron (15724)
• Canada
16 Mar 19
I don't like the sound of that woman one little bit!! If she is like this now... what is she going to be like in a few months??
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@TheHorse (238342)
• Walnut Creek, California
16 Mar 19
Good question. I really don't know.
@PatZAnthony (14749)
• Charlotte, North Carolina
15 Mar 19
Could you possibly just report her now? She should never work with children (or other humans) but I'm not in charge. She could do so much damage in a day. If she was with my children, I'd move to have her discharged.
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@TheHorse (238342)
• Walnut Creek, California
16 Mar 19
Maybe she's nervous as a new teacher and is overcompensating. But she's obviously taught before, and she's in her 50s or so, so she's probably been teaching for a while.
@RasmaSandra (98072)
• Daytona Beach, Florida
16 Mar 19
I think it is time to rethink about this teacher. She does not sound like someone I would want working with such young children.
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@TheHorse (238342)
• Walnut Creek, California
16 Mar 19
I agree. And I've been working long enough with this group of kids that I care about them each individually, not just "in principle." I don't want to see them hurt.
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@Junbals (1421)
• Philippines
8 Apr 19
How she teaches the pre-schooler is the problem. Maybe you could approach her and give a feedback at what you observed. This could improve her performance and help the kids, as well. You are a teacher yourself. So you could see eye to eye. My take.
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@TheHorse (238342)
• Walnut Creek, California
8 Apr 19
I am slow to openly criticize others. It can lead to problems.