Flags used to mean something else in my country. Don´t let it happen in yours.

@marguicha (162429)
Chile
September 18, 2020 9:16am CST
A week ago people remember here the begining of a period in our history that most of us recall with horror. We had a dictator, Augusto Pinochet, for 17 years. Counting with my fingers I can see that it was 17 years. Yet 30 years later, there are still people who put up our flags on that date when democracy was destroyed. Now I have to put up my flag to commemorate our Independence in such a way that my flag does not get mixed with the others. And last week, I could see across the street an ominous flag that applauded torture and deaths. After 30 years! We must take care of our democracy. If we lose it in the hands of a crazy person who grabbed too much power, there are too many risks for all of us Wounds turn into scars. They don´t heal.
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@1creekgirl (22896)
• United States
18 Sep
This is such an important reminder...thank you. I'm going to suggest this to every myLotter I can, especially Americans.
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@marguicha (162429)
• Chile
18 Sep
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• United States
24 Sep
Terrified of where our country is headed.
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@dfollin (19729)
• United States
25 Sep
@Writingghost It is a mess here.
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• United States
18 Sep
i'm glad ya shared the 'mportance 'f such 's we here'n the u.s. remain so divided. the evil not truly seen 'n the choices so few. thanks, ms. @1creekgirl fer suggestin' this to me. folks tend to 'gnore the long term 'ffects, 'nstead they're brainwashed (my view point) 'nto thinkin' this's a good thingy. look't all the shiny thingies'n prosper. wolf'n sheep's clothin' :(
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@marguicha (162429)
• Chile
18 Sep
My sister went to the exile. Ny niece was lost to me. She married a Canadien in London. I would not know her daughter if I saw her in the streets. My niece speaks with an accent, her daughter speaks English. None of them care much about their roots.
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@1creekgirl (22896)
• United States
18 Sep
People are so easily fooled when they're offered the world for "free".
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@marguicha (162429)
• Chile
19 Sep
@1creekgirl I agree.
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• Austin, Texas
18 Sep
There is a scripture that I misunderstood for a long time. It talked about visiting the sins of the fathers upon the third and fourth generations. I used to think: “That's not fair! Why should I be punished for sins of my ancestors?” But now I understand. That's not what the scripture means. What is meant is that years later, even hundred years of later, people will still suffer for the sinful acts committed by their predecessors. So you say it's been 30 years later. Yep. The after-effects or the consequences might last even longer than that. Joe Biden says “Be not afraid”. But I can't help it. The things happening in my country right now are scary! I pray very hard for my country. But I also pray for the rest of the world; for countries that are under the rule of cruel greedy power-mongers and for those struggling to rebuild after finally ridding themselves of evil despots. Nations can heal but the healing process is slow. It's sad to say but there are some who had what they considered to be "a good life" under an "oppressive regime" and they miss the "good old days". Under oppressive rule, not everybody suffers. Those who didn't are likely the ones who display a flag because they cling to what they believe they've lost; not thinking that all the while they fared well, many others suffered greatly. That's how I see it.
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@marguicha (162429)
• Chile
18 Sep
I don´t understand why is it that some people don´t understand that we ALL matter.
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• Dallas, Texas
19 Sep
Yes. I enjoyed how to the point this was.
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@LadyDuck (307029)
• Switzerland
18 Sep
You are so right, but people seem not to recognize a potential Dictator when they see one. Let's hope it's not going to happen.
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@marguicha (162429)
• Chile
18 Sep
It would seem so obvious. Yet there thave been many during my life time.
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@LadyDuck (307029)
• Switzerland
18 Sep
@marguicha I have seen many during my life too, all leaders who made people think that they were there to bring back Law and Order and used their power only to torture and kill all those who were opposed to their ideology.
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@marguicha (162429)
• Chile
18 Sep
@LadyDuck We had several if those in South America, helped by the CIA.
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@JudyEv (224026)
• Bunbury, Australia
19 Sep
Thanks @1creekgirl for the suggestion. Democracy needs to be preserved at all costs.
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@marguicha (162429)
• Chile
19 Sep
Each of us can help.
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@1creekgirl (22896)
• United States
19 Sep
You are so right.
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@marguicha (162429)
• Chile
19 Sep
@1creekgirl We got Pinochet out of our lives in an election. He was so arrogant that he did not think that a mayority would vote against it. Each vote helps.
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@topffer (41247)
• France
19 Sep
I understand your feeling. Here the far right has made its own property of Saint Joan of Arc as a national hero. They can keep her, I never liked saints wearing arms.
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@marguicha (162429)
• Chile
19 Sep
I did not know that. I don´t like the use of religion to divide.
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• Dallas, Texas
19 Sep
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@marguicha (162429)
• Chile
19 Sep
@lookatdesktop Thank you.
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@marlina (110582)
• Canada
18 Sep
Yes, we must fight to keep our democracy alive.
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@LadyDuck (307029)
• Switzerland
18 Sep
Democracy is hard to conquer and so easy to lose if you put your country in wrong hands.
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@marguicha (162429)
• Chile
18 Sep
Yet democracy is not guarded with arms.
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@marlina (110582)
• Canada
25 Sep
@LadyDuck So true, so true!
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• Philippines
19 Sep
Sadly, looks like were going to have the son of a once dictator running for the presidency and his father's story is some how being slowly re written.
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@marguicha (162429)
• Chile
19 Sep
It is so very terrible
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@LindaOHio (49319)
• United States
18 Sep
Democracy is very sacred and special. Too many take it for granted. Good post.
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@marguicha (162429)
• Chile
18 Sep
I hope we learn in the future.
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@CarolDM (98593)
• United States
18 Sep
I agree and now many are being burned here. So much disrespect.
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@marguicha (162429)
• Chile
19 Sep
The world has changed. When I went to the US when I was a child, people could not place a flag in front of their house in just any day. There were some days when ALL Americans must have one in their fronts. Later on, when I went for a visit, I did not understood why some people used their flag every day. I still don´t get it
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• Dallas, Texas
19 Sep
@marguicha , In the United States of America, both parties use the American Flag to represent their political party. For Trump, the American Flag represents his party, For Democrats, The American Flag represents ALL OF AMERICA. There is a great divide in the USA at this time. It may never be united if Biden does not get elected, because Trump is a dictator and he is not for all Americans, just his supporters who oppose the Liberal Left that Trump calls The Radical Left. Trump is not of sound mind.
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@CarolDM (98593)
• United States
19 Sep
@lookatdesktop Not to get into a debate of who I vote for, but have a question. Do you believe Biden is of sound mind?
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@Hannihar (103869)
• Israel
18 Sep
@marguicha There are those that follow and those that think for themselves. I am proud of my country and put up more than one of our flags before our Independence Day. You made good points there.
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@marguicha (162429)
• Chile
18 Sep
Thank you.
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@Hannihar (103869)
• Israel
21 Sep
@marguicha You are so very welcome. I guess it depends on how people feel about their country or the country they live in whether or not they put up flags or not. More put up flags this year maybe because of the virus. I have no idea.
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@marguicha (162429)
• Chile
22 Sep
@Hannihar It depends on what flags mean.I think that the national flag should unite instead of separate.
@GardenGerty (126949)
• United States
19 Sep
I learn new and important things every day, here.
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@marguicha (162429)
• Chile
19 Sep
If everyone was open to learning, the world would be a better place.
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@LeaPea2417 (29756)
• Toccoa, Georgia
19 Sep
I have read what happened to your country under that dictator. I hope this post is not trying to make Trump look like a dictator. He is not. Of all people, Biden would be a dictator if he wins. The USA would be Fuked if Biden wins. If all of you think I am crazy, then don'tfollow me here. If you all think I am a Trump NUT, don't follow me here. I know what I am talking about. I have studied this for a long time and know Biden will kill America.
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@marguicha (162429)
• Chile
19 Sep
I am talking about my country. Apparently you did not understand well my post. I would not attempt to make a post about the US elections. I don´t write here about politics of another country or religion although I might wrote a comment to another person´s post.
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@LeaPea2417 (29756)
• Toccoa, Georgia
19 Sep
@marguicha I understand. I never meant to be rude.
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@marguicha (162429)
• Chile
20 Sep
@LeaPea2417 It is not rude to me. But I think that it could be rude to some of the people from your country. You cannot expect everyone to think the same way.
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@TheSojourner (33408)
• United States
18 Sep
This is one of the best and most poignant things I've ever read from you. There is so much that I could say, but I'm going to leave it silent, because I know you know my heart and what I would say to you about this whole subject. You know me. We speak the same language.
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@marguicha (162429)
• Chile
18 Sep
Many things can be said, dearest. I wrote this post after reading again one of Lili´s very short stories that said it all.
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• United States
18 Sep
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@marguicha (162429)
• Chile
18 Sep
@TheSojourner I´m in the right mood now for Independence Day. We have to take care of it.
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@Jackalyn (7628)
• Oxford, England
19 Sep
I am glad you have democracy now and was interested to read the comments below. I guess most dictators begin by promising changes then gradually the control and evil takes over. You are wise to display your flag in a way that shows you do not support the past.
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@marguicha (162429)
• Chile
19 Sep
This dictator did not "promise" us anything. He took over by force.
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• Dallas, Texas
19 Sep
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@marguicha (162429)
• Chile
19 Sep
@lookatdesktop It was a shock for us as it was for you the attack on the Twin Towers. Same day too only in a different year.
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@nela13 (37614)
• Portugal
19 Sep
You're right, lately we have seen more radical parties gaining power, it is worrying.
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@marguicha (162429)
• Chile
19 Sep
Political parties are made of people. We can do something instead of worrying. That´s how we got Pinochet out of our lives.
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@nela13 (37614)
• Portugal
19 Sep
@marguicha yes, you are right.
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@marguicha (162429)
• Chile
19 Sep
@nela13 And we did not have weapons.
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@rakski (64446)
• Philippines
18 Sep
This is an important reminder for all of us
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@marguicha (162429)
• Chile
19 Sep
Thank you. I think that for everyone.
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@rakski (64446)
• Philippines
19 Sep
@marguicha yes, that it's for everyone too
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@marguicha (162429)
• Chile
19 Sep
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• Pamplona, Spain
19 Sep
Margi we are seeing here the flags of Catalunya all over the place on the balconies all the time so we think that its really to do with Euskalerria mainly as the other flag of theirs is not supposed to be flying really. Even after Franco went there was still tyranny here and now well maybe its improved somewhat.
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@marguicha (162429)
• Chile
19 Sep
The problems in Spain have not been solved . There are places where they even speak a different language, besides Spanish.
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• Pamplona, Spain
19 Sep
@marguicha Its true that its happening. I know all about that too. Not been solved and will take a long time to do so.
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@porwest (32835)
• United States
19 Sep
This is part of the reason I am so careful about my vote in my own country and why I can not let my vote go to anyone but Trump. The democrats here were ALWAYS a nefarious group. Pro-slavery and all of that, supporters of the KKK, pro-segregation, and they created the Jim Crowe laws in our country. But they were not as scary even then as they are now with their socialist agenda, universal income ideas, and so on and so forth. If Trump loses, this country is gone, and our flag means nothing.
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@marguicha (162429)
• Chile
19 Sep
I thought the democrats were the first to support a mulatto as a President of your country. And to have a first lady that has slaves in her ancestry. How come they would also support the monstruous KKK?
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@porwest (32835)
• United States
19 Sep
@marguicha That is what the media wants people to believe. The democrat party was always pro-slavery, and the republican party, whose first president was Abraham Lincoln, actually CREATED the party to oppose it and abolish it, which resulted in secession, the creation of the Confederate States of America, and ultimately the Civil War which ended with the abolishment of slavery and eventually the Emancipation Proclamation which freed the slaves and made slavery illegal. After that the democrat party continued to impose laws that banned the right of blacks to vote, segregated blacks into black only schools, and created Jim Crowe laws that said blacks could not drink out the same fountains, could only be seated in certain areas in restaurants, could only use certain designated bathrooms, could only sit at the back of the bus and so on and so forth. The KKK was founded by democrats, supported by the democrat party, and was long held as an extension of the democrat party. It is a part of the democrat's history they have been trying to hide for generations, and in some ways, have largely succeeded. MANY people, including MANY democrats, do not know the history of their own party. And SOMEHOW the term 'racist' has been reapplied to republicans. It has never been the case.
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@marguicha (162429)
• Chile
20 Sep
@porwest It seems that in the US, socialism means difierent than in other countries. In my country we have had socialist presidents
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• Semarang, Indonesia
18 Sep
Dictator is such a terrible things not only for country but also for human rights. I am very afraid when thinking about this. I can not imagine how long this peace of world will existing longer, if we can not fight to keep it. Thanks a lot for @1creekgirl, who suggested me to see this
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@marguicha (162429)
• Chile
19 Sep
I know that in Chile and Argentina, during the tome of the dictators, they tied tortured people, placed them in planes and threw them to the ocean. That cannot be forgotten. But we can fight against this without weapons.
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• Semarang, Indonesia
19 Sep
@marguicha oh my God.. so cruel like that. But, we have to know the fact. That still there is a hard life outside. Okay good luck four your nation.. fighting
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@marguicha (162429)
• Chile
19 Sep
@HannahKusKus Good fights are made with reason, not with weapons.
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