I wasn't chosen as a juror

@JudyEv (381904)
Rockingham, Australia
November 5, 2020 3:07am CST
The photo has nothing to do with the post. It is of the skywalk at Kalbarri. I had to drive to Bunbury, Western Australia, this morning as I’d been summoned to attend the local courthouse as a potential juror. As we arrived, we were shown into a waiting room and spent quite some time waiting for something to happen. I was fortunate enough not to be chosen as one of the twelve jurors. So I’m home again and don’t have to go back. In the waiting room, we were seated in every second chair. In the corridors, etc, we kept our social distance. Before the jury was chosen, we watched what was happening in the court room on a big screen. They could also see us in the waiting room. We heard the charges read out although we couldn’t see the accused. When a person’s number was called as a potential juror, they had to stand on a yellow cross and those in the court had the chance to challenge each person. Those chosen were taken to the court room and we could see them take their places. They were then sworn in. Once that was done, the rest of us were dismissed and were free to go home. As the trial is likely to last six days, I’m glad I wasn’t required to assist.
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@DianneN (254949)
• United States
5 Nov 20
I'm glad you were free to leave. What a relief!
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@DianneN (254949)
• United States
5 Nov 20
@JudyEv You sound like me now!
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@JudyEv (381904)
• Rockingham, Australia
6 Nov 20
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@JudyEv (381904)
• Rockingham, Australia
5 Nov 20
I had fingers, legs, toes, eyes - everything crossed!!
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@LadyDuck (502211)
• Italy
5 Nov 20
I am glad you could escape. Do you know that there are "tricks" suggested to avoid to be chosen as "jurors"? Admit that you cannot be fair... find a reason. Fake you cannot understand the questions (ears problems). It would be interesting to see what people invent to be excused.
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@LadyDuck (502211)
• Italy
6 Nov 20
@JudyEv I am glad that we are not called here, we only have "professional jurors".
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@JudyEv (381904)
• Rockingham, Australia
5 Nov 20
Several had reasons why six days would be difficult for them. After the charges were read out to the four women (charged with assault), the names of the witnesses were read out and one juror knew a witness so he was excused. I might have tried to be excused but the letter had been sitting in our mail box for three weeks and it was only a few days before I had to appear so really it was a bit late to be coming up with excuses.
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@JudyEv (381904)
• Rockingham, Australia
6 Nov 20
@LadyDuck Really? I didn't know that. I know they used to have professional mourners in Ireland but I didn't know about professional jurors.
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@simone10 (54180)
• Louisville, Kentucky
5 Nov 20
I'm so happy for you. I always thought it would be interesting to be a juror but the only time I was called was when I lived in Texas. I had an infant and a toddler. Their father and I were separated and I had no transportation and no one to watch my kids. Luckily I was excused.
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@vandana7 (102698)
• India
6 Nov 20
@JudyEv Oh, that is the reason. But I would think other jurors sit and discuss.
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@JudyEv (381904)
• Rockingham, Australia
5 Nov 20
In a way it's interesting depending on the case but sometimes there is doubt about whether you've got it (the decision) right or not. I'm glad you were excused. What a rigmarole otherwise!!!
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@JudyEv (381904)
• Rockingham, Australia
6 Nov 20
@vandana7 When the jury 'retires' after hearing all the evidence, then you talk about what you've heard and try to come to a unanimous decision.
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@rakski (156295)
• Philippines
5 Nov 20
that is good.
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@JudyEv (381904)
• Rockingham, Australia
5 Nov 20
I think so too. Thanks.
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@rakski (156295)
• Philippines
6 Nov 20
@JudyEv it will get more of your time
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@just4him (323168)
• Green Bay, Wisconsin
5 Nov 20
That's wonderful news for you. Since you turn the magic age in six months you shouldn't be called again.
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@JudyEv (381904)
• Rockingham, Australia
5 Nov 20
You're right. That should be it for me.
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@just4him (323168)
• Green Bay, Wisconsin
6 Nov 20
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@Shiva49 (28371)
• Singapore
5 Nov 20
It would not have been easy especially during this time. It is quite a relief in the end that could go home.
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@JudyEv (381904)
• Rockingham, Australia
5 Nov 20
Yes, that's true. Despite WA being virtually free of the virus at this time, they were still being ultra-careful at the courthouse.
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@msdivkar (23356)
• India
5 Nov 20
The photo you posted the other day as the sky walk with the related discussion was not that clear. It is clear today and i could understand now what you said then. It must be an experience standing there watching breath taking view. Sorry you could not be part of the juror team.
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@msdivkar (23356)
• India
6 Nov 20
@JudyEv Some monetary benefits apart from social status should be with the post.
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@JudyEv (381904)
• Rockingham, Australia
6 Nov 20
@msdivkar They do our bank account details and there is some sort of reimbursement. I don't know how much yet.
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@JudyEv (381904)
• Rockingham, Australia
5 Nov 20
I missed this photo at the time. It would have been a better one. I'm not sorry to have missed out on being part of the jury. It is going to go for six days.
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@LeaPea2417 (40026)
• Toccoa, Georgia
6 Nov 20
I have served on a jury before and a grand jury.
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@LeaPea2417 (40026)
• Toccoa, Georgia
6 Nov 20
@JudyEv Yes, the first one was we the jury found a guy guilty of bank robbery and rape. The people who tried to protect him got charged on lesser charges. The Grand Jury was different in that we went over cases to determine if they needed to go to trial.
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@JudyEv (381904)
• Rockingham, Australia
6 Nov 20
@LeaPea2417 I'm sure the Grand Jury cases would have been interesting.
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@JudyEv (381904)
• Rockingham, Australia
6 Nov 20
Were they interesting cases? This will be it for me as, if my name came up again, I'd be too old.
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• United States
5 Nov 20
Glad you were able to escape being a juror. I love watching court shows on tv but dont think I would want to be a real juror
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@JudyEv (381904)
• Rockingham, Australia
5 Nov 20
It's a responsibility really to try to do the right thing. You're playing God in a way. While it's a civic duty, I was pleased to get out of it.
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@kobesbuddy (78833)
• East Tawas, Michigan
6 Nov 20
It's not good for those who travel so far. There's the expense of a motel and food for that week.
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@JudyEv (381904)
• Rockingham, Australia
6 Nov 20
That's true but you do get reimbursed for expenses. Whether they count a solitary 'all-day' parking ticket is yet to be seen.
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@JudyEv (381904)
• Rockingham, Australia
6 Nov 20
@kobesbuddy I think I will too but it might take a little while. I had to give them my bank details which is a good sign.
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@kobesbuddy (78833)
• East Tawas, Michigan
6 Nov 20
@JudyEv I was paid for gas mileage, even though I wasn't selected.
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@DocAndersen (54399)
• United States
5 Nov 20
i've been called twice in the last five years. Both times I made it to the jury room, Both times I was not picked.
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@JudyEv (381904)
• Rockingham, Australia
5 Nov 20
I served once years ago. That will be it for me now. There are some perks to ageing.
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@JudyEv (381904)
• Rockingham, Australia
6 Nov 20
@DocAndersen Once you're 75, that's it. Some people never get called but others' names come up every few years.
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@DocAndersen (54399)
• United States
6 Nov 20
@JudyEv in our area you don't get to opt out for age. You also get called every 2-5 years
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@Nevena83 (66063)
• Serbia
5 Nov 20
Are you often a juror?
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@JudyEv (381904)
• Rockingham, Australia
5 Nov 20
I was called up once years ago. I won't be called again as I'll be too old.
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@JudyEv (381904)
• Rockingham, Australia
6 Nov 20
@Nevena83 I wasn't really scared but a bit apprehensive about it all. The names are chosen randomly from the electoral rolls and you receive a letter saying your name has been chosen. You can apply for a deferral or exemption but you have to have a good reason. They expect you to attend if you can. If you simply don't turn up, then it is $800 fine.
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@Nevena83 (66063)
• Serbia
6 Nov 20
@JudyEv Are you scared when they called you? I only saw it in movies, I didn't know that jurors are really chosen that way.
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@cperry2 (5608)
• Newport, Oregon
6 Nov 20
Does Australia allow potential jurors to claim hardship as a reason to not sit on a long trial? For ours, which was only four days, we were specifically asked if there was anything that would bar us from being able to do our job. Some stated that they could not because they were needed for this or that, or they were self-employed or whatever. Those who made such a claim were excused.
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@JudyEv (381904)
• Rockingham, Australia
6 Nov 20
That happens here too but they are quite strict about who is excused. It's not all that easy to get out or serving but some do.
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@JudyEv (381904)
• Rockingham, Australia
6 Nov 20
@cperry2 One of the jurors thought he knew one of the witnesses. Their names were read out at the beginning. He knew someone with the same first and surnames but didn't know the middle name so, because there was doubt, he was stood down.
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@cperry2 (5608)
• Newport, Oregon
6 Nov 20
@JudyEv I was surprised at how easy the court was at allowing people to excuse themselves. I had always heard it was very difficult. Ah well, I actually enjoyed the time, even though things got a bit contentious in the jury room a time or two.
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6 Nov 20
Everything happen for a reason
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@JudyEv (381904)
• Rockingham, Australia
6 Nov 20
That's very true.
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@JudyEv (381904)
• Rockingham, Australia
7 Nov 20
@GodServantme There is a judge and twelve jurors.
7 Nov 20
@JudyEv what jurors mean a Judge?
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@shaggin (74988)
• United States
6 Nov 20
The photo is beautiful but I’d be terrified to walk out on that. I’m glad you weren’t picked either it doesn’t sound like any fun at all.
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@shaggin (74988)
• United States
6 Nov 20
@JudyEv yes! I always see both sides of things I think as a juror I would have a very hard time picking a side
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@JudyEv (381904)
• Rockingham, Australia
6 Nov 20
If you get it wrong, you've really messed with someone's life. It's too much like playing God to my way of thinking.
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@snowy22315 (208801)
• United States
5 Nov 20
Usually when you get jury duty here you are on the rotation for one month. You might only have to report once during that time, and the other weeks you just call in. I have been called for jury duty here once, and in other counties a few times. Only once did I ever get to serve, and that case was decided before it ever went to the jury!
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@JudyEv (381904)
• Rockingham, Australia
5 Nov 20
We are on call for a week. Because it is a district court, there is usually only one trial at a time (heard by a judge) so once they had their 12 that was it for the rest of us.
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@snowy22315 (208801)
• United States
5 Nov 20
@JudyEv OK..
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@vandana7 (102698)
• India
6 Nov 20
This is something I would love to do. Even in Covid Times. Unfortunately, in India, we do not have that system.
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@vandana7 (102698)
• India
7 Nov 20
@JudyEv As I see it, there are limitations. At times technological, at times logic. Within that frame, it is not a sin to "judge" if judging helps to prevent similar crime or bring down crime rates going forward. Idea is to improve society. If guilt is to be held, even eating egg and drinking milk are good reasons to feel guilty as we are killing possible life in egg, and depriving calf of some milk.
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@JudyEv (381904)
• Rockingham, Australia
6 Nov 20
So does a judge decide if people are guilty or not?
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• United States
6 Nov 20
i'm breathin' a sigh'f relief with ya, hon. 'tis most interestin' the set'p there fer such a process. kinda makes me wonder if'n the same 'tis happenin' 'round these parts? with the big tv screens. nah, i figure they've a wee'un that all've gotta squint, lol.
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• United States
7 Nov 20
@JudyEv that sounds like'n these parts, the sound issues. from what i've been told anyhow. 'd be interestin' to know how they plan to social distance all who're there?? the ventilation system... i'm really glad ya didn't get chosen, hon.
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@JudyEv (381904)
• Rockingham, Australia
6 Nov 20
The sound wasn't too good on this one. It kept cutting in and out. But you'd all be in the one room once the trial started.
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@Deepizzaguy (122105)
• Lake Charles, Louisiana
6 Nov 20
I know how you feel since I get summoned for jury duty once every two years. The good part is I was also not selected to be on the jury.
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@JudyEv (381904)
• Rockingham, Australia
6 Nov 20
I think we can get called every two years too but it's many years since I was selected.
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@Deepizzaguy (122105)
• Lake Charles, Louisiana
6 Nov 20
@JudyEv Thank you for sharing it with me. It took me three years to be called to jury duty when I moved to Lake Charles in 2009.
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@CarolDM (203396)
• Nashville, Tennessee
5 Nov 20
Good for you! I was never chosen either.
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@JudyEv (381904)
• Rockingham, Australia
6 Nov 20
It's a bit daunting. If you got it wrong, you'd really be messing up someone's life.
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@CarolDM (203396)
• Nashville, Tennessee
6 Nov 20
@JudyEv It is a very important job for sure.
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