Doesn't It Seem Just A WEE BIT Suspicious?
By Jim Bauer
@porwest (78761)
United States
December 4, 2020 12:41pm CST
I am not going to sit here and waste my time calling the current election of Joe Biden a fraud. I have been very vocal about my support for our system of electing presidents, and our election system overall.
I maintain my belief (until I know otherwise with irrefutable evidence presented to me) that our election system is working as it should.
I also will not waste time making claims that Joe Biden will not be taking over the White House on January 20th under any circumstance. Rest assured, Joe Biden WILL be sworn in as president on that day.
But there is something that nags at me about this whole thing, and I think no matter what side of the aisle you happen to be on, ANYONE and EVERYONE should be taking at least SOME pause and thinking...
Well, just MAYBE something seems...off here.
That is the NUMBER of votes for Biden. That is that the voter turnout is the highest it has ever been in American politics. That is that Biden has the highest number of votes for any president in American history, and by a lot.
When something like this happens it is not impossible to think of certain other countries where victories in an "election" are so far ahead of the opponent that you can't help but KNOW all things were not above board.
I'm just saying. It LOOKS extremely suspect.
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@porwest (78761)
• United States
4 Dec 20
I am not sure. I mean, normally I would agree with you. But there seems to be a massive effort from some very loyal Trumpists who may carry this thing (outside of the realm of government interim) all the way through.
Normally I would tend to think something like this might be frivolous. But being that the situation is what it is, I think we need to make ABSOLUTELY sure that our election system is not damaged.
An election system that is corrupt would be THE most damaging thing this nation could ever face, and it threatens the very heart of democracy and our great republic.
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@porwest (78761)
• United States
4 Dec 20
Normally I would not question the results. I think in this case we have to. Nothing is more sacred to us than our system of elections. If we lose that, we lose the country. And there is no other way to say it but to say this result is extremely stinky.
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@BelleStarr (61047)
• United States
4 Dec 20
Especially since he is not a candidate who inspired any excitement but it may also be a "we hate trump" vote. But yes really that may mail-in ballots is suspicious to say the least.
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@porwest (78761)
• United States
8 Jun 21
It may well have been a "hate Trump" vote. Still, when you look at the rallies of Trump and whatever you want to call what Biden had, and when you look at the overwhelming support that is STILL omnipresent...I think what we have here is a clear question which demands an answer. Not sure if we will ever get it, but since I wrote this post I am more and more convinced this election was stolen, Trump won, and the American people were cheated in the worst way possible. I never thought it could ever happen in our country, but I think it clearly happened.
The democrats stole the White House. It is as plain as the nose on my face.
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@lovebuglena (43077)
• Staten Island, New York
4 Dec 20
There is no way that Biden got exceedingly the highest number of votes for any president in American history. Something smells very fishy here. Those numbers cannot be the real numbers... And when all is said and done if Biden is declared our official president (fingers crossed that won't happen) it's obvious that he will be the winner because the election was rigged...
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@lovebuglena (43077)
• Staten Island, New York
5 Dec 20
@porwest I wonder if it was the other way around and the same thing was going on would Biden and his team be looking into it and keep on investigating and getting witnesses, and doing lawsuits, etc.? I somehow doubt that.
In my view, Biden did not win yet. I will only believe it when it is official...
Supposedly, he is gonna make us wear masks for at least 100 days when he gets elected... Really? What's that all about? People have been wearing masks for months...
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@porwest (78761)
• United States
5 Dec 20
the election was rigged, that's a known fact.
@hardtimes1958 As much as I want to agree with you, and you KNOW we are on the same side. It is NOT a known fact. If it was, we would not be having this discussion. But we cannot and should not give up looking into what happened, and if anything presents itself as overwhelming...
We will have a very different discussion down the line.
But as it stands right now, being unbiased and fair, Biden won and Trump lost. That is what we deal with now until we know the answer is different tomorrow than we know it to be today.
Cool and level heads must prevail. If there is something out there to find, we will find it, and we will deal with it. Our best course of action now is to proceed in the interest of America, with our faith in the system intact.
It is okay to question. But we also cannot allow ourselves to become too deeply immersed in the question, because despite what Biden might do to destroy us, nothing will destroy us more than our absence of faith in our republic, and the system we use to elect our leaders.
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@porwest (78761)
• United States
6 Dec 20
There is no way that Biden got exceedingly the highest number of votes for any president in American history. Something smells very fishy here. Those numbers cannot be the real numbers... And when all is said and done if Biden is declared our official president (fingers crossed that won't happen) it's obvious that he will be the winner because the election was rigged...
@lovebuglena I am in full agreement with you. It just smells rotten to me. It should be obvious to a lot of people, but of course the ones who got the result they wanted aren't going to be the ones asking any questions.
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@LindaOHio (156276)
• United States
5 Dec 20
It was not suspect at all. You will disagree with me; but there are many Americans that were appalled at the way Trump conducted himself. Pure and simple.
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@bagarad (14283)
• Paso Robles, California
5 Dec 20
I'm just praying if there is the fraud I suspect, it will be exposed and justice will be done. No matter who is elected a fraudulent system must be dealt with or we will never trust our elections again. I have absolutely been against machine counting since it started. I simply don't trust computer counting because so much depends on how those computers are programed. I also think universal mail in ballots encourage fraud.
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@porwest (78761)
• United States
6 Dec 20
@bagarad This is the key, really. Anything nefarious needs to be exposed, and the evidence has to be such that it is so overwhelming that the justice department (no matter who is in charge of it), the media, and the American people cannot deny it.
Those mail in ballots, I think, are the key to this whole question and need to be deeply looked into.
@pjmurphy (2500)
• United States
5 Dec 20
Doesn't seem at all odd to me. I know enough people who would have walked miles over broken glass to vote against this man who currently resides in the White House that I am not at all surprised at the number who voted. You may be in your own bubble.
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@porwest (78761)
• United States
5 Dec 20
I am not in a bubble at all. I am engaged in critical thinking. Something the left is notoriously incapable of doing.
If you read anything I write on the topic, you might be surprised to know that I actually WANT the result to be right. I am an American first and a republican second. I have a lot of faith in the integrity of our elections, and feel that our system of elections is sacred. It is also one of THE biggest foundations of democracy in this great republic. We CANNOT lose faith in our elections.
So, I want the result to be right even if I disagree with it. Even if I do not like it. Even if I wish it were to have gone another way.
When it comes to this election there is just too much to question. And while (even in this post) I clearly said I am not drawing any conclusions until I know the truth, it doesn't mean I am not going to ask questions until I absolutely know the truth to BE the truth.
We cannot go forward with blind faith. Blind faith is a very dangerous thing to have.
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@Namelesss (3368)
• United States
4 Dec 20
If it looks and smells like a skunk...
That's all I'm saying too.
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@porwest (78761)
• United States
4 Dec 20
This stinks to high heaven. When and if I get the time I might elaborate on some of the other reasons I find this election very stinky, and why I think it is at least plausible there was a massive effort by people to have worked very hard to pull something like this off.
No one will read it, though. 
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@porwest (78761)
• United States
5 Dec 20
I don't think that's the case, which is just one of the reasons I question his massive win in the way that I do. He could barely fill a back room in a restaurant, but Trump could attract tens of thousands of people to his rallies. Something just doesn't add up here.
