The REAL Reason They Want To Be Rid of Trump Forever

@porwest (78761)
United States
February 14, 2021 8:38am CST
Try to think about something for a second. IF Trump lost the election, and Biden won fair and square, and IF Biden won by an historical voter turnout and an historical number of votes in any election in America's history, why the need to impeach him? Why the effort to bar him from ever running for office again? Why the fear that he might run again? Why is the importance to make sure Trump cannot run again? Because if the democrats won fair and square, and if the voters have apparently spoken loud and clear that they legitimately did not support Trump for reelection, and if the democrats have all the wit and goods to get this country "back on track again,", then what would be to fear if Trump did run again? If the election was fair and legitimate, and if the Biden administration can actually deliver on their "promises," then shouldn't that be all that matters? If they've got this now, why would they have to worry about still having it in 2024? The simple answer for me is that Biden did not win the election. And they know it. The democrats, and certain republicans. They know it. The riot was orchestrated by the democrat party and left wing groups, and paid for and funded by them in an attempt to change the story from election fraud to a horrible historic insurrection the likes we have never seen. It was a story shift. It was a focus shift. And what else do they know? They know that despite all the polls that tell a different story, all taken by the media that was implicit in the destruction of a president, and implicit in the greatest coup this country has ever seen— Trump might actually win in 2024. Because stealing another election might be more difficult a second time around. And potentially more dangerous to those who had their hands in the theft. And they know if Trump were to come back, floodgates would open. The truth would be revealed. The jig would be up. The curtains hiding the deep state would finally be revealed in all their glory. And no one would be able to stop it. No one would be able to continue to deny it. If "they" have nothing to worry about, then why make the mad dash to try to stop something they supposedly already stopped? According to them, they won, right? The voters spoke, right? It was all above board, right? The voters said no to Trump and yes to Biden, right? Unless "they" know something wasn't right, then there should be no serious consideration that Trump might try to run again. And if Trump was so bad, and so damaging to America, then there should be no serious consideration either that he might win in 2024. I have said before that I do not usually subscribe to conspiracy theories. But sometimes I do think one has to look beyond the upfront narrative and dig a little deeper into their own thoughts and ask questions when things are questionable. JFK was not assassinated because one guy didn't like him. JFK was assassinated because he was digging into things a lot of people in the deep state didn't like. They killed the president. They killed the man that supposedly shot him. They killed the man who shot the man who supposedly shot the president. No voices, no questions, no beans spilled. And just to be sure they sealed the deal, they shot the president's brother too. Because had Bobby won, and he would have, he'd have opened the floodgates then too, and the jig would be up. The real story would be revealed. They didn't shoot Trump. But get rid of him? They are certainly making sure to try to do that. And the reason has to be bigger than the reason they are telling us.
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8 responses
@CarolDM (203454)
• Nashville, Tennessee
14 Feb 21
Many do not want to admit to the truth but there is a lot more to this story, as you know. The media only shows one side, as usual.
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@porwest (78761)
• United States
14 Feb 21
Unfortunately true. The bad part of the whole thing is much like Hilary Clinton's misdoings that got shoved under the carpet... So will, likely, this.
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@porwest (78761)
• United States
15 Feb 21
@CarolDM That pretty much sums it up. And unfortunately the people who run Twitter and Facebook can do the shutting up of certain people, and they are. Meanwhile, anyone on the other side can say and infer anything they want.
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@CarolDM (203454)
• Nashville, Tennessee
14 Feb 21
@porwest It all gets shoved under the carpet except the ones who disagree. Shut up and obey is the message now.
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@NJChicaa (115995)
• United States
14 Feb 21
Oh please. You are smarter than this.
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@porwest (78761)
• United States
14 Feb 21
It is BECAUSE I am smart that I don't swim in the ocean like a fish hitting on worms that shouldn't be there floating in the water with me.
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@sallypup (57860)
• Centralia, Washington
14 Feb 21
@NJChicaa As always. Right on the money.
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@porwest (78761)
• United States
15 Feb 21
@sallypup As always, neither of you provided any retort. You just basically said, "nope." I guess I'd be more interested if you answered the questions I posed in the post to provide a basis for why you think I am wrong.
@BelleStarr (61047)
• United States
19 Feb 21
There is a lot of truth in what you say and I don't think it was an honest election and in what reality could Biden get more votes than any president in history without LOTS of help? But without real proof, the election results are what they are and we will have to live through 4 years to see what it brings.
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@BelleStarr (61047)
• United States
22 Feb 21
@porwest I do as well but since the cheaters are in charge I don't have a lot of faith in the truth being revealed.
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@porwest (78761)
• United States
21 Feb 21
Yep. Right there with you. As these kinds of things tend to go, while questions may be asked, not a lot of people will do the necessary seeking out of the answers, any wrongdoing will (as it always is) be swept under the carpet, the powers that be will remain in control and even work to silence the questions and the questioners... I do hope that we can at least one day get to the bottom of what really happened over the past four years, and how it led to the next four, and I think our elections and our government depend on it a bit as well.
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@porwest (78761)
• United States
23 Feb 21
@BelleStarr Me either.
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@LeaPea2417 (36438)
• Toccoa, Georgia
14 Feb 21
You are exactly correct!!! Very well written!
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@LeaPea2417 (36438)
• Toccoa, Georgia
16 Feb 21
@porwest Your welcome!
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@porwest (78761)
• United States
15 Feb 21
Thank you. I sincerely appreciate that.
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@1creekgirl (40515)
• United States
15 Feb 21
Well said as usual, Jim. Have you read The Overton Window by Glenn Beck? Great read.
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@1creekgirl (40515)
• United States
16 Feb 21
@porwest I don't agree with him on everything but the book is really good.
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@porwest (78761)
• United States
18 Feb 21
@1creekgirl I will definitely check it out.
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@porwest (78761)
• United States
16 Feb 21
I have not. But that book has been recommended to me more than once. I am typically not a huge fan of Beck, but I may just pull this book out for a read in any event.
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@lovebuglena (43074)
• Staten Island, New York
15 Feb 21
A lot of people, most likely those that voted for Biden, will tell you that this is some conspiracy theory, that this election wasn't rigged, that Biden won fair and square, especially since that's what the mass media wants us to believe. But I don't think this is a conspiracy theory. And I really hope that the truth comes out soon about all that went down. I also hope Trump runs in 2024. At the very least I hope that Biden doesn't run for re-election. He's already done enough bad stuff for this country and it's not even been a month since his inauguration.
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@TheHorse (205727)
• Walnut Creek, California
19 Feb 21
What has Biden done to hurt the Country?
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@porwest (78761)
• United States
24 Feb 21
@lovebuglena Only time will tell. Hopefully the truth prevails. Unfortunately, often in politics, it gets muddled.
@porwest (78761)
• United States
24 Feb 21
@TheHorse Ultimately it is Biden's vision OF and vision FOR America that hurts us. Policies notwithstanding.
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@moffittjc (118442)
• Gainesville, Florida
15 Feb 21
You certainly present some food for thought. No matter which side of the coin I'm on, I've always been taught to dig deeper and question things and make sure you see all sides of the story. I cannot say for certain that what you say is absolutely true, but you do make a compelling argument.
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@moffittjc (118442)
• Gainesville, Florida
16 Feb 21
@porwest The question is, how do you uncover the truth? The media is 100% biased toward the left, and the Deep State doesn’t want to be exposed, so how do you get access to, or dig deep enough, to find out what’s really going on?
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@porwest (78761)
• United States
17 Feb 21
@moffittjc That is part of the issue, of course. It would, at this time, require an independent investigation outside of government, funded by private money. But even there, because it's the deep state that also controls the information needed to conduct a private investigation thoroughly, it would be a very difficult thing to do. Not sure if it will happen. But we shall see. I do think enough people have questions and want answers, and you never know what effort they may be willing to go to to finally expose the deep state for what it is. The thing is, the deep state is way too powerful anymore, and while they have always posed a threat to the country, the threat they pose now has never been greater, and unless we dig, I think it may one day be impossible to break them.
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@porwest (78761)
• United States
16 Feb 21
I can't say my suggestion here is absolutely true or EVEN true at all. But like you said, I think we have to question things more than we do. I keep going back to the rallies, and the yard signs and flags. 5 to 1 Trump signs to Biden signs. Trump could get tens of thousands of people to his rallies, and Biden could barely fill a high school gymnasium. And THEN you look at the historical number of votes, and the margin he won by... And while MAYBE it's all good and nothing happened other than this many people really did vote for Biden over Trump, it just doesn't feel right. It doesn't look right. It's just not believable. And for that reason my thinking brain kicks in and says, "Maybe I should be asking more questions."
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@TheHorse (205727)
• Walnut Creek, California
19 Feb 21
My take is different, though I do wonder about the JFL assassination. Didn't the guy who shot the guy who shot JFK die in prison of a heart attack? I'll have to do my due diligence, as I haven't thought much about that case in recent years. I think congress was bound by the constituton to impeach Trump a second time after the insurrection, even if they knew he would not ultimately be convicted. I think the Republicans who are distancing themselves from Trump, including Mitch, want to bring integrity back to the Party. As a Moderate, I want to se both the Democratic and Republican parties strong, in part because I don't want to see Democrats go crazy with "political correctness," which is one of my nemeses (along with texting drivers and people who don't read).
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@TheHorse (205727)
• Walnut Creek, California
23 Feb 21
@porwest I think it's up to us, the citizens of the Country. Being stuck at home will probably make many of us more likely to cling to what we believe in without adequately researching it. Chronic cell phone use has already been shown to lead to increased depression and anxiety. But in day-to day life, the "principle of continuity" leads me to believe things will be largely the same.
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@porwest (78761)
• United States
21 Feb 21
@TheHorse Oh. It was a coup. No doubt about it. They were talking about impeachement before Trump was even in office, and they made accusation after accusation, launched investigations, and of course impeached him twice. The democrats were not doing the work of the American people. They were doing the work of getting a duly elected president out of office. That is as much a coup as anything. And the media was involved as well in it by presenting false and misleading information. As for Clinton, it seems apparent that he was a pedophile. He hung out with and attended the child laden parties of Epstein, and this is now well documented. If he wasn't playing with the kids, what else was he doing there? And why would he associate with a known pedophile without also accepting it and supporting it? As for democrats destroying the country, there is a lot there that evidences it. One big part of it is their disdain for capitalism, and their strong desire to maintain programs in a way that keeps the poor poor. With the state of the current democrat party being what it is today, if the democrats could get away with it, we'd be living in a socialist country this very minute. THAT is the ultimate destruction of the country.
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@porwest (78761)
• United States
23 Feb 21
@TheHorse "Destroy" is perhaps too harsh a word. It's all about a trajectory. A path. A direction. Something and many things that collectively eat at the fabric of society and that set the new bar for this thing or that thing. So that things that were once unthinkable suddenly become acceptable, and changes the consensus or mindset of the majority. So that when you appoint a transgender person to a health advisory role, people don't go WTF? They go, "cool beans." The path that we are on right now, unfortunately, is one the scariest and worst paths I have ever seen. And I am not sure where it goes from here. I just know it's not at all good.
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