A piano student who made me slightly sad yesterday.

@TheHorse (205767)
Walnut Creek, California
April 14, 2021 11:02am CST
I had a new piano student yesterday who made me a touch sad. He was a seven year-old blonde boy who loves pianos. His mom or grandpa was/were in the room as I "taught him." He banged randomly at the piano with his two index fingers, made no eye contact with me, didn't respond to my questions, and was difficult to "corral." His grandfather told me that he didn't read or do math, but he spoke clearly when he spoke. He also could find C on the piano and play Twinkle Twinke Little Star (approximately). Mom and grandpa both told me that he has severe ADHD, but I think he is autistic. I am sad for two reasons: I could instruct this kid on piano if I lived in his house and just randomly played with him, modeling both improvisation and things like chords and scales. But perhaps not in weekly half-hour lessons. If his family is in denial of his autism, he might not get the services he needs as early as he needs. I may add more to this post later. I have to head off to work. Your thoughts on ADHD and autism?
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@rakski (112925)
• Philippines
14 Apr 21
Early detection, early intervention will make a difference. But acceptance will make it a huge difference
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@TheHorse (205767)
• Walnut Creek, California
14 Apr 21
Yes. Denial is not helpful. But maybe I'm wrong.
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@rakski (112925)
• Philippines
15 Apr 21
@TheHorse No, that is right. The first step is ACCEPTANCE. After acceptance, everything follows because the parent will now look for means to improve and better the situation and that means giving intervention
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@TheHorse (205767)
• Walnut Creek, California
15 Apr 21
@rakski Yep. I agree. But I only interacted with the kid for 1/2 hour, so I can't be sure about my intuitions. I will see what happens.
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@wolfgirl569 (95189)
• Marion, Ohio
15 Apr 21
That dont sound like ADHD at all. They are hyper on the go kids.
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@wolfgirl569 (95189)
• Marion, Ohio
15 Apr 21
@TheHorse He could have both. They need to have him fully checked out. But I know some of those things can be hard to figure out and even more so if more than one is present. After my SIL had her oldest boy put on medicine for ADHD I looked up the symptoms of it. My youngest boy fit that more than my nephew did. I raised him without meds by keeping set consistent rules and having rewards and punishments'. That was the first time I had even heard of it and some of the other stuff
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@TheHorse (205767)
• Walnut Creek, California
15 Apr 21
He was hyper. But he was also in his own little world. ADHD kids are one of my "specialties." I think that this kid is on the autism spectrum.
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@much2say (53958)
• Los Angeles, California
14 Apr 21
I do think proper diagnosis and early intervention would be key to helping this child. Sometimes the guardians do not understand that the resources are out there, and that they have to reach out in order to get that help. They may be well meaning, but denial only causes delays.
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@much2say (53958)
• Los Angeles, California
15 Apr 21
@TheHorse Our friend's son went to his first day of kindergarten, and the teacher noticed some oddities about him. She approached the parents and felt that he should get tested. Ohhhh, they blew up and pulled him out of that school .
@TheHorse (205767)
• Walnut Creek, California
15 Apr 21
Precisely. Sadly, if I suggested that they "screen" him for autism, I could get fired.
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@amadeo (111948)
• United States
14 Apr 21
oh my yes hope that work this out with this kid.He needs help
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@amadeo (111948)
• United States
14 Apr 21
@TheHorse that is so sad.But you have to do what is right.
@TheHorse (205767)
• Walnut Creek, California
14 Apr 21
Only so much I can do. I'll have to let this one go.
@Tampa_girl7 (48958)
• United States
14 Apr 21
That is a very sad situation. I have a loved one who has ADHD and Asperger’s. They weren’t diagnosed as a child and have had a difficult journey in life.
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@Tampa_girl7 (48958)
• United States
15 Apr 21
@TheHorse (205767)
• Walnut Creek, California
15 Apr 21
Early intervention is a good thing.
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• United States
14 Apr 21
I hope the mother and the grandfather listen and have him tested for autism. I'm really not in a position to offer advice since I haven't had anyone close to me with either ADHD or Autism.
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• United States
15 Apr 21
@TheHorse it's a fine line when you're the teacher and you can't cross it.
@TheHorse (205767)
• Walnut Creek, California
14 Apr 21
It would be inppropriate for me as a piano teacher to suggest he be tested for autism. But I his family does.
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@prinzcy (32322)
• Malaysia
16 Apr 21
It seems family being in denial is a common issue. Even my parents took a while to accept that my younger brother is a slow learner. They said he was just had a late growth. Luckily when he entered the kindergarten, his teacher send my parents a letter, asking to take him to a doctor. Even after that, my aunt still couldn't accept it. She even took my younger brother to meet a shaman for treatment.
@vandana7 (98827)
• India
14 Apr 21
I don't know much about them. But I am sorry that he is autistic. Life is not easy for such kids. I think mommaj has an autistic kid.
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@LadyDuck (458107)
• Switzerland
15 Apr 21
Denial is not going to help him, I feel sorry for this boy.
@RasmaSandra (73444)
• Daytona Beach, Florida
15 Apr 21
Makes for a very difficult and complicated life, I hope you can instruct him and perhaps that might help some to bring him out of himself,
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@TheHorse (205767)
• Walnut Creek, California
15 Apr 21
Thanks for the comment. We will see what happens.
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@1creekgirl (40523)
• United States
14 Apr 21
That's really sad. I hope the mom and grandfather will have him checked out and get the correct diagnosis.
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@TheHorse (205767)
• Walnut Creek, California
15 Apr 21
I hope so too.
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@Lucky15 (37346)
• Philippines
14 Apr 21
Hope they will accept the kid has autism spectrum disorder. the earlier, the better. they will find what is best for him or suits his interest or what he is good at
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@TheHorse (205767)
• Walnut Creek, California
15 Apr 21
I think he CAN do well in music. But he needs intensive help/therapy for his issues.
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@nela13 (55698)
• Portugal
14 Apr 21
For what you wrote it looks like autism, especially because he avoided eye contact. I hope his family look for help as soon as possible.
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@TheHorse (205767)
• Walnut Creek, California
15 Apr 21
I hope so too.
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@DocAndersen (54411)
• United States
15 Apr 21
i remember the Case Western University study from the 1990s (i was collecting data for group 1). By default, we are all on the autism scale. All "hunting" animals are to a degree. It is the ability to hyperfocus on prey. that said, it is really sad. The family is trying to help the kid. Once again a horse reason not to be a teacher!
@GardenGerty (157551)
• United States
15 Apr 21
Sometimes the disorders seem to go hand in hand. Denial does not help. I hope you get to help, in more than a piano way. I have worked with and around autistic people for a long time, and every one is different. Just as we are all different. Good luck.
@marguicha (215441)
• Chile
14 Apr 21
I had a child student with ADHD once. He was very depressed because his very intelligent dumb mother was always telling him that he was stupid. He was brought to me as the last chance to teach him to read. After some minutes, he started moving in the chair. I told him to get up, go to the kitchen and eat a banana and then run 5 times around my plum tree. Much against his mother´s will, I asked her to bring a tennis book with lots of pictures. She was against sports and said several awful things until I stopped her and told her that my husband had been a pro soccer player and was NOT dumb. Some people think that children must only learn quantic physics The boy learned
@kaylachan (57687)
• Daytona Beach, Florida
14 Apr 21
I think more awareness needs to be brought to both and people need to learn the signs. I know it would be hard, but why don't you try teaching him the way you would an autistic kid, or present the parents with information on autisim so he can possibly get the help he needs. All to often autisim gets misdiagnosed as ADHD or "behavioral issues" because parents don't know better and doctors, especially at that age, are quick to write it off.
@marlina (154166)
• Canada
14 Apr 21
That makes me sad too, I hope that the adults will have him tested and then he could have the appropriate help needed
@LindaOHio (156157)
• United States
15 Apr 21
That's very sad. I think he might have autism as well. You can't intercede which is frustrating. Wishing you both the best.
@Janet357 (75656)
14 Apr 21
To be honest, I can relate to your story. We also offer SPED tutoring here and most parents are indeed in denial that their kids are autistic so they want to enroll them in a regular school. I find it odd.