Protecting the Dogs

@porwest (112876)
United States
February 24, 2023 6:19am CST
I am not sure where I stand on a proposed bill proposed by Florida democrat state senator, Lauren Book. But it would, among other things, ban dogs from extending their heads out of car windows, and even could require that a dog be placed in a seatbelt. How you would accomplish belting a dog in is beyond my comprehension, mind you, and the thought of trying to get Fido locked in does make me chuckle just a little bit. Giving a dog a bath can often be a daunting task in and of itself. I mean, on the one hand the measure, if passed, would make at least some sense to me. Pets are vulnerable lives in a moving car as much as any life would be, and if there were to be an accident, certainly the pets are in a circumstance of great peril. At the same time, the proposal is coming from a democrat. Which tends to make the proposal a bit more chuckle-worthy. Not because it is coming from a democrat only. But, because when part of your party platform is advocating for the murder of children inside the womb, perhaps the most vulnerable of any life anywhere, but you want to protect dogs, it just presents a bit of irony. Not to mention that the bill also proposes to protect rabbits from being sold just before Easter (presumably since they might be eaten), and prevent what she sees as the cruel declawing of cats. It just seems odd to me where the priorities of some lie, and how we can take something like this proposal seriously (and I would, perhaps, if not for the irony) when someone has more interest in protecting Fido than protecting an unborn child.
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@NJChicaa (127140)
• United States
24 Feb 23
Declawing is inhumane. The prevention of sales of rabbits before Easter is because they are often bought as Easter presents for children and then given up weeks or months later when the kids are bored with them. Same goes for chicks. I don’t see how you’d belt in a dog. A crate would be a better option if you had the room in your car.
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@Fleura (35031)
• United Kingdom
24 Feb 23
My friend has a doggy seat-belt. Basically it just clips to the harness that the dog normally wears (in place of a collar).
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@porwest (112876)
• United States
24 Feb 23
Inhumane and purposeful are how I view some things. Take, for example, neutering and spading. I find that to be inhumane, but I also find it purposeful and therefore, I support something that I have a bit of an issue with. I find declawing can be inhumane, but I also do see some purpose for it in certain circumstances. For example, if it is an inside cat vs. an outside cat. As for people releasing animals they don't want, why limit it? It happens with all sorts of pets. People tire of them, open the door, and out they go. There is quite a lot of argument to be made about cats being one of the bigger problems—while many might be outside cats with owners, others are simply strays because people opened the door and let them go. Or, of course, the outside cats weren't spayed or neutered and are getting busy. Generally I support the idea behind the proposal. Where I have difficulty is where the proposal is coming from considering what they are willing to protect and what they are not willing to protect. It simply presents an irony that I find difficult to make sense of and therefore, it is very difficult for me to take the idea seriously.
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@NJChicaa (127140)
• United States
24 Feb 23
@porwest how is spaying/neutering inhumane?
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@Hannihar (130150)
• Israel
24 Feb 23
@porwest the one proposes the law is very two-faced and needs to know what she is talking about. I would never declaw my cat and protecting an animal to me is just as important as protecting at unborn child.
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@Hannihar (130150)
• Israel
26 Feb 23
@porwest I can understand how you feel. They have conflicting answers.
@porwest (112876)
• United States
25 Feb 23
That is where I have the problem with the proposal. If you on the one hand support abortion and then on the other expect me to support you on protecting animals—I take issue with that.
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@vandana7 (102698)
• India
24 Feb 23
Human babies are adorable ...as adorable as dogs...but they grow up to be vicious creatures like me....then it becomes a huge problem for the world...LOL I am not for abortions...as I do believe life exists when zygote is formed. Science....not theology. Killing a person who is helpless, who has done no wrong ..seems inhuman to me. BUT...I am for more serious way using family planning methods. It should become as much of a habit as brushing teeth. Here again I am presuming most people do brush their teeth everyday if not twice a day.
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@Fleura (35031)
• United Kingdom
24 Feb 23
Strictly speaking, life exists before a zygote is formed, because you need two living cells to create a zygote
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@vandana7 (102698)
• India
24 Feb 23
@Fleura Truth be told, I have to agree...just struggling to imagine half human being.
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@porwest (112876)
• United States
24 Feb 23
@Fleura Without being overly say, well...outward? Is that the word I am looking for? There is a certain activity that expends some of my "living cells" that will never have the opportunity to produce a zygote, and I would be hard pressed to stop doing that activity because of that. lol
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@RebeccasFarm (91297)
• United States
26 Feb 23
They are so small minded Jim as we know
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@porwest (112876)
• United States
2 Mar 23
Very, and I wish more people had the ability to see it.
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@just4him (323168)
• Green Bay, Wisconsin
24 Feb 23
Personally, I hope the bill doesn't pass. One thing that is beneficial for dogs is for them to hang their heads out the car window. Something about the wind and the ears. It's good for them. I agree with you about protecting animals when we don't even protect the unborn child.
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@porwest (112876)
• United States
24 Feb 23
Yeah, I am with you on this. I mean, sure, an accident can happen and the dog can be hurt. But I just think the alternative is ridiculous and a law like this is unnecessary. Beyond the fact, don't we have bigger problems that need to be worked out? And yeah. The latter.
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@JudyEv (382104)
• Rockingham, Australia
25 Feb 23
If a fuss can be made about trivial things, hopefully (for the pollies) it takes and focus and heat away from other issues.
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@porwest (112876)
• United States
25 Feb 23
That is, of course, the other side of it. We have all of these other problems that are far more important to deal with, and we spend time deciding whether to belt in a dog?
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@FourWalls (86713)
• United States
24 Feb 23
I had no problem with Freckles. She’d just climb in my lap and rest quite comfortably while in the car. Of course, it made it hard for me to drive, but…..
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@porwest (112876)
• United States
24 Feb 23
Cal, who is of course a cat, just sits on the console and watches out the windows. lol Getting a dog into a seatbelt might be one thing. Trying to get a cat into one might land me a trip to the emergency room. lol
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@akalinus (44366)
• United States
24 Feb 23
The reason rabbits might not be sold just before Easter is that people purchase the baby bunnies for their kid's Easter presents. After the novelty wears off, the kids neglect the animals and perhaps abuse them by not handling them correctly. I remember as a kid, that bunnies and baby chicks were dyed brilliant colors and sold in grocery stores just before Easter. There were hundreds of them milling around in chicken-wire containers in the center of the store.
@Fleura (35031)
• United Kingdom
24 Feb 23
We could no doubt go into a long discussion about when exactly a single cell becomes a child. But as for dog seatbelts, yes they are a thing here. Not a legal requirement, but it is required that animals in vehicles should be suitably restrained (i.e. not free to run around inside the vehicle), so they could be in some sort of carrier, cage or basket, closed in the back with a grille, or clipped in with a harness. And yes my friend has a doggy seat-belt for her pet.
@LindaOHio (222417)
• United States
25 Feb 23
I read about this and would support it. They have dog seat belts; and dogs should not stick their heads out of the window. It's a first-world problem; but I'm an avid dog lover; and too many people don't know how to treat and protect their animals. This has nothing to do with this discussion; but i recently saw a video of dogs in tiny cages being collected for the slaughterhouse. It made me sick.