Bachelorettes' and Bucks' Parties

@JudyEv (357177)
Rockingham, Australia
April 7, 2024 8:00pm CST
MyLotter @xFiacre wrote about sharing a plane with some cowboy-hatted girls. As part of a ‘bachelorette’ party, they were flying from Ireland to Manchester. I was thinking about this and how different it was in my day. An unmarried girl was just that, an unmarried girl, but if you stayed unmarried too long you became, a spinster which had quite negative connotations. Once you were engaged to be married and sometime before the ceremony, you had a ‘kitchen tea’ or 'hen's party' where your friends would bring gifts to help you set up house. The groom would be subjected to a ‘stag party’ or ‘bucks’ party. This was usually held the night before the wedding, a very ill-advised time which resulted in many a groom turning up at the altar with a huge hangover. Some rather awful practical jokes were also often played on the hapless husband-to-be. Nowadays, the girls are jus as likely to get as drunk as the boys but at least it all takes place in time for everyone to sober up again before the actual day. Things are a lot different nowadays. Many of the happy couples have been living together and have all they need before they even get as far as planning a wedding. The photo is of a young guest at a Nepalese wedding.
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@rebelann (114214)
• El Paso, Texas
8 Apr 24
It's been that way here for decades. Many women in the US are perfectly happy just living with a guy, it seems to have caught on because when I was a young woman getting married meant I would belong to the man I married and I didn't want that to happen, I like freedom too much.
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@JudyEv (357177)
• Rockingham, Australia
8 Apr 24
For sure I can see quite a few benefits. But it's often the children who eventually suffer.
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@rebelann (114214)
• El Paso, Texas
8 Apr 24
I agree but I've heard one woman say that she was setting an example for her daughter, I couldn't fathom just what she thought that example would be.
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@AmbiePam (100074)
• United States
8 Apr 24
I don’t mind being a spinster, although no one has ever used that word in reference to me. I find it kind of sad though, that I have had a few married ladies tell me how lucky I am to be single. I would have hoped that thought would never have crossed their minds.
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@JudyEv (357177)
• Rockingham, Australia
8 Apr 24
I rarely hear the term 'spinster' nowadays. And yes, that is a bit sad that married people tell you that.
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@jstory07 (144875)
• Roseburg, Oregon
8 Apr 24
I had no fancy party before I got married. We just drove to Las Vegas and got married. A show and gambling and we were both happy.
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@JudyEv (357177)
• Rockingham, Australia
8 Apr 24
It should all be about what the couple want. Sometimes the hype is just way over the top.
@wolfgirl569 (118556)
• Marion, Ohio
8 Apr 24
Things have changed a lot. They were saying on a show a few days ago that the average bachelorette party costs 1200 a person here now
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@wolfgirl569 (118556)
• Marion, Ohio
9 Apr 24
@JudyEv That's what I thought when they were talking about it
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@JudyEv (357177)
• Rockingham, Australia
9 Apr 24
Another proof that some people have more money than sense - in my humble opinion anyway.
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@Ronrybs (20809)
• London, England
8 Apr 24
Only been to one stag do, it was passable, not my idea of good night
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@JudyEv (357177)
• Rockingham, Australia
11 Apr 24
@Ronrybs We like old-time Dixieland type jazz but not so much the modern stuff but don't tell our son!!
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@Ronrybs (20809)
• London, England
16 Apr 24
@JudyEv Your secret is safe, just don't go putting it up on a social media site!
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@Ronrybs (20809)
• London, England
10 Apr 24
@JudyEv Sounds more like it. Except for the jazz!
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@nela13 (59051)
• Portugal
8 Apr 24
In Portugal it was the same, an unmarried girl (usually after the age of 30) would be called an aunt (stayed for aunt) and this was a negative connotation too.
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@JudyEv (357177)
• Rockingham, Australia
9 Apr 24
'Old maids' was another term used here.
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@nela13 (59051)
• Portugal
11 Apr 24
@JudyEv Yes, it was used here as well.
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@kareng (76691)
• United States
8 Apr 24
Yep, the age for getting married has certainly increased with modern times!
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@kareng (76691)
• United States
9 Apr 24
@JudyEv A lot here in the U.S.! The figure goes up every year it seems.
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@JudyEv (357177)
• Rockingham, Australia
8 Apr 24
Some don't bother to get married at all.
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@RebeccasFarm (95312)
• Arvada, Colorado
8 Apr 24
A lovely kid in the photo in Nepal. Oh marriage..yes..that's all I have to say about that. We never had no parties before..marriage was on the spot. Idiot me.
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@JudyEv (357177)
• Rockingham, Australia
8 Apr 24
Some rush in I guess. I'm sorry your marriage/s didn't work out although the last one did. Is that correct? I can't remember now.
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• Arvada, Colorado
9 Apr 24
@JudyEv No none of them Judy..tis okay I am fine as I am.
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@LadyDuck (477832)
• Italy
8 Apr 24
It was the same in Italy, an unmarried girl was just that, but after the 30s she became a spinster (zitella in Italian) and it had a negative connotation. We surely had no wild "hens parties", it would have been considered very bad girls alone acting like crazy. The groom could meet their friends the week before the wedding, never the night before. Just married couples could expect pranks from their friends. This little girl in the photo is so cute.
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@LadyDuck (477832)
• Italy
8 Apr 24
@JudyEv I agree, it's a much better idea than those wild parties they do now.
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@JudyEv (357177)
• Rockingham, Australia
8 Apr 24
Getting together well before the wedding is a much better idea.
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@RasmaSandra (86526)
• Daytona Beach, Florida
8 Apr 24
I have never been to a bachelorette party but have been to a number of weddings,
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@1creekgirl (43796)
• United States
8 Apr 24
It's hard to think of a wedding gift if the couple has been living together.
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@1creekgirl (43796)
• United States
8 Apr 24
@JudyEv A changing world from what we knew.
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@JudyEv (357177)
• Rockingham, Australia
8 Apr 24
Exactly and now many are not shy about suggesting a monetary gift.
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@just4him (318815)
• Green Bay, Wisconsin
8 Apr 24
Peter, Paul, and Mary sang a song in which one of the lines is: The times they are a changing. It's definitely the case with weddings today. I love the picture.
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@just4him (318815)
• Green Bay, Wisconsin
8 Apr 24
@JudyEv Yes, they were.
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@JudyEv (357177)
• Rockingham, Australia
8 Apr 24
I remember that song well. That was a long time ago too. They were a great group.
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@Hannihar (130204)
• Israel
8 Apr 24
@JudyEv You are right that things are different now.
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@JudyEv (357177)
• Rockingham, Australia
8 Apr 24
Such a lot of things have changed in our world.
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@Hannihar (130204)
• Israel
8 Apr 24
@JudyEv Yes, they have.
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@grenery8 (18074)
• Zagreb, Croatia (Hrvatska)
9 Apr 24
spinster term was invented by men and i don't acnowledge it if they are golden boys, then we are golden girls
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@JudyEv (357177)
• Rockingham, Australia
10 Apr 24
Yes, that's right. All single people are special as are married ones.
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@BarBaraPrz (49956)
• St. Catharines, Ontario
8 Apr 24
Up until the mid-90s or so, gift "showers" were still held for the bride-to-be but somewhere along the line "stag and doe" parties were held in a bar and one had to buy tickets for it. I never attended one. Too crass, in my opinion.
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@JudyEv (357177)
• Rockingham, Australia
9 Apr 24
Most are pretty crass nowadays I think.
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• China
8 Apr 24
Not sure if the ‘kitchen tea’ or 'hen's party' are comparable to the bridal shower.Here there is a banter too to tease the newlyweds on wedding night.
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@JudyEv (357177)
• Rockingham, Australia
8 Apr 24
Yes, it's also called a bridal shower here. I'd forgotten that.
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@Orson_Kart (7498)
• United Kingdom
8 Apr 24
They are called ‘stag’ and ‘hen’ dos over here, and yes, there is more importance placed on having a good time than planning for a wedding. As you say, women’s hen dos were very low key. These days, both parties seem to want to go abroad, get drunk, do crazy things, and waste a lot of money. That tells me that there is much more disposable income these days than ever before, despite the state of the world economies.
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@JudyEv (357177)
• Rockingham, Australia
9 Apr 24
I'm sure you're right. I've seen 'rehearsal wedding breakfasts' in films. WHAT??? maybe it's only the very rich that do this. One 'breakfast' is usually expensive enough to send the bride's father into shock.
@FourWalls (76239)
• United States
8 Apr 24
A “spinster” sounds nicer than what Americans called unmarried women over, say, 25: “old maids.”
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@JudyEv (357177)
• Rockingham, Australia
9 Apr 24
Yes, we have that too but nobody uses either now as dozens of unmarrieds have partners.
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@TheHorse (228216)
• Walnut Creek, California
8 Apr 24
Cite photo. I have been to a few bachelor parties. Yes, a bit on imbibing was involved. And sometimes visits to places where "scantily" clad women could be seen.
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@JudyEv (357177)
• Rockingham, Australia
9 Apr 24
There are often practical jokes too which may or may not be funny.
@Beestring (15556)
• Hong Kong
8 Apr 24
The girl in the picture is so cute. In traditional China, we also have similar term "spinster" for elder women not getting married. Nowadays, nobody cares if you are single for life or not.
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@JudyEv (357177)
• Rockingham, Australia
8 Apr 24
There is less prejudice against unmarrieds which is a good thing really.
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