Can anything be done about violence in America? How are laws different where you live?
By The Horse
@TheHorse (206231)
Walnut Creek, California
April 10, 2024 10:56am CST
Disclaimer: I have lived in the San Francisco Bay Area for over thirty years and have only actually been physically attacked once. It was by a kid who hit me from behind with an aluminum water bottle. The second blow, to the side of my head, broke my glasses. The third bloodied my hand as I grabbed my falling glasses. The attacker then went after a child in the same area and punched him in the face. I was able to run after the attacker, tackle him, and hold him from behind until support arrived. I did report the incident to the police, and they said nothing could be done, as the attacker was under 18 and nobody sustained severe injuries. What would happen to an under-age violent attacker where you live?
This morning I was trolling YouTube, and I came across this video, from FOX news. A female police officer in Virginia was surrounded by a mob, and narrowly escaped.
But the story that got to me, and led to this post, was the one that followed. A group of 12- and 13-year-old girls attacked an old man and killed him. Apparently they got him on the ground and stomped on his head while he was down.
What should happen to these girls? Will they be tried as adults? Will they spend some time in "Juvenile Hall" and the released into society? And what of their parents? I am sure their parents will be investigated. What kind of childhood would lead to such behavior in a group of 'tweens? Will the parents be charged?
As I have mentioned in many previous posts, most people are good, and usually only the bad ones make the news. But there are bad people out there and too often they get away with being bad. Some of the solutions that come to my mind (forced sterilization for repeat violent offenders; shooting shoplifters in the leg, life imprisonment for gun crimes, etc.) are either draconian or impractical. But I am OK with more police, more (and less luxurious) prisons, and stiffer sentences.
What do you think?
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@celticeagle (159359)
• Boise, Idaho
10 Apr
In some areas of the U.S. violence is actually down a little. Some of the reason for the violence around the country is that Trump's followers like it. There was also a thing in the news a couple years ago about some extremist group doing random violence like driving into crowds and shooting into crowds for no reason. It is evil we have to cut out from extremist groups.
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@celticeagle (159359)
• Boise, Idaho
11 Apr
@TheHorse .......California has many gangs and such too.
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@TheHorse (206231)
• Walnut Creek, California
11 Apr
@celticeagle Yes, it does. Driving in Oakland was odd. Cars with tinted windows would drive right through stop lights. I almost got run over a few times, and got racially harassed many times, but was never actually shot at.
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@vandana7 (98908)
• India
10 Apr
You come up with my type of post. LOL
1. Against more prisons. Requires too much tax.
2. Stiffer sentences...YES. Take away properties of the criminal. Penalize parents too for bringing up child wrongly. Monetary punishments serve as decent deterrents. Stiff monetary fines, that too in percentages, increased annually. Minor crimes, make them clean public toilets. About time they feared such things.
3. Anybody whether five or ninety....if he kills has to be tried for murder. Likewise, anybody whether five or ninety, if he rapes or resorts to acid attacks or other form of harassment, yes...tried like an adult.
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@wolfgirl569 (95539)
• Marion, Ohio
10 Apr
Its about the same here. Those girls need locked up
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@RasmaSandra (73642)
• Daytona Beach, Florida
10 Apr
My thoughts have always been that if a person or persons who were committing a crime against others knew they would have the same thing done to them as soon as they were arrested they might think twice and not commit the crime. However, with all these crazy people in this world perhaps no one would care and do what they wanted to anyway. That leaves me to wonder how these vicious girls would react if now they were told that they would be forced to the ground and then their heads would be stomped on, SIGH
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@LindaOHio (156827)
• United States
11 Apr
You have to wonder what goes through those girls' heads to kill an old man? That's horrible.
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@LindaOHio (156827)
• United States
12 Apr
@TheHorse Yes, and they need to do some research into the minds of these girls.
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@FourWalls (62370)
• United States
10 Apr
We were founded on violence, and throughout the history of our country the answer to everything has been violence.
Kill the Indians.
Kill the Blacks.
Kill the people on the other side of the fence of a particular ideology (such as the Civil War).
After nearly 250 years of it, do you really think we can change our ways?
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@sallypup (58048)
• Centralia, Washington
10 Apr
Sterilization sounds good to me. I do wonder about how those kids came to be such monsters. Yes to making the parents liable. Is there a gene that causes a kid or adult to be anti society? Zero empathy? Its all tangled and something the average, not wanting to harm anybody person, can totally fathom. ( I can't imagine taking a bat to another human let alone a cat or dog.} My Rufus dog has a high prey drive. He also has a record- he has caused harm. I choose to keep him and I keep him away from chickens and small dogs. How to keep a human monster away from others? Who is that person's keeper?
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