President Biden Lied

@porwest (112717)
United States
December 1, 2024 6:49pm CST
No matter how you want to slice this, President Biden lied to you. The American people. Repeatedly he told the American people he would not circumvent the decisions of the courts. That he would follow and respect the law. That he would not "abuse" his power and position. "The law is not for me to decide," he told you. This was all in regard to the many convictions and verdicts against his own son, Hunter Biden. Yet today, despite being adamant. Despite assuring the American people he would honor the judgements. Despite holding the position and power to do so when he told you over and over and over again, he would not do it. He pardoned his son. I am not at all angry that he did it. In fact, I could not care less that he did it. But the fact is, for all the Trump haters out there, had Trump been in a similar situation and did this, Trump haters would have something to say about this. So, what do you have to say now? Come on. You've all had your say on dirty Trump and all the foul things he's done. What have you to say now about Biden's decision to ignore the law and give free reign to his criminal son? Do you still feel the law should be applied to everyone equally? Are you going to give a pass to Biden because he's not Trump? Are you okay with the fact that he lied to you? To your face? In front of cameras? Time and time again? I really want to know, because now is the time when the truth comes to light and all that's been said about Trump now comes front and center with your guy. Can you be honest? Can you be objective? Is it possible to disagree with something Biden chose to do? Or are you just a cult who will go along with anything he decides and be okay with it? Because that's what cults do, right? According to you. According to Trump haters. They just agree with everything their guy does even when it's wrong. Now is the time to put your money where your mouth is. Crime is crime, right? Everyone should be held to account. No one should get a pass. Well? Okay. So, why does Hunter Biden get a pass? It's your turn to now shine and speak out against corruption and wrongdoing. It's your time to show you REALLY care about the law and holding criminals to account for their crimes. It's YOUR time to shout out about people abusing power and getting away with things. Because we've had to listen to it for four years. In fact, longer than that. So, what say you now? I really want to know and I look very forward to the many disssenting posts from Biden/Harris supporters that should clearly state how unfortunate it is that Biden is a liar and a cheat and above the law. Him and his family. Just like Trump, right? The law? Who needs the law? It's okay to break it and get away with it right? Based on who you are and who you know. It's okay, right? Because it was Biden and not Trump. Right? We're all on the same page here, aren't we? The law only applies to those who don't have people in power to erase the wrong we do. And it's okay. Because it's Hunter Biden and not say, one of Trump's kids or Trump himself. You can break the law, and there's nothing wrong with that. Right? Laws. Convictions. Jury decisions. None of it matters. Right? Because someone in power decided it doesn't matter. It doesn't apply to them. It's not important. It's not binding. Right? Because the only guy who belongs in an orange jump suit, come hell or high water, is Donald Trump himself. HE deserves to fry while anyone else just walks free. HE deserves to go to prison despite the crimes of others who warrant the same. Because he's Donald Trump and he is the ONLY man anyone thinks should pay the price. I'm waiting. For the honesty. For the appalled, angry cries. I'm waiting. I'm waiting for the toutings that no one is above the law. I am waiting.
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8 responses
@FourWalls (86568)
• United States
2 Dec 24
You’re going to wait a long time. Politicians lie, that’s what they do for a living. If a politician told me that today is Monday, December 2, 2024, I would check a calendar. Having said that, why aren’t you upset about T man? He said emphatically that he knew nothing of this “Project 2025,” and now he’s endorsing it AND appointing the authors of it.
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@FourWalls (86568)
• United States
4 Dec 24
@porwest — for the record, I do not like the orange-faced turd. That does not make me “their side.” I am very happy with his threat that “there’ll be hell to pay” if the October 7 hostages aren’t free by January 20, and I will be screaming that HE lied if there isn’t. (I also saw on the news today that Musk wants to propose ending daylight savings time, which I personally would be thrilled with.) I can separate the person and the politics. I think it’d probably be cool to sit down with Obama, have lunch, and chat about music. I wouldn’t want him in the Oval Office ever again, not even as a visitor. As for the current president, a friend posted it perfectly on Facebook: “Biden knows his political career is over, so he’s saying f*** you.” I think if Orangeface would start a policy of “let’s go forward from this day and restore the economy” and stop this “I’m going to get even with my enemies” crap a LOT more people, including those who didn’t vote for him, would support him. As it is, he just sounds like a spoiled 8-year-old…which is why I don’t like him. PS: you, I believe, are an atheist or a non-believer or whatever they call it this week. I hope for your sake Project 2025 is a fantasy so you don’t have to officially endorse Christianity with your tax money.
@porwest (112717)
• United States
3 Dec 24
Give me a break. Project 2025 will forever live in your side's fantasies just like Russia Collusion. You all want so badly for this thing, that thing and the other all to be true, and you just won't let any of it go. I am more curious what people's thoughts are about the law and the pardon. But of course, what I expect is deflection. The lie Biden told is not as important as the context of the pardon, and that's why it matters how your side views it.
@2ndchances24 (12188)
• Cloverdale, Indiana
2 Dec 24
You may be waiting a long time, cause they don't want to hear the truth about all his lies, they don't want to hear about all the lies he has told Or all the crazy crap he has put America through, but I did tag 1 person that is always saying he is the best president we have had & we know that's a GIANT LIE @NJ Chicaa lets see what she has to say.
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@NJChicaa (127116)
• United States
2 Dec 24
When did I ever say he is the best president we have had? Show me where. I'll wait.
@NJChicaa (127116)
• United States
2 Dec 24
@porwest I don’t have a lot of time between 5:45 and 6:30am to sit at the computer. Ya know the whole getting ready for work thing. Right now I am posting this from my phone. I do plan to write an actual response to your post but that will have to wait until this afternoon when I get back.
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@porwest (112717)
• United States
2 Dec 24
Unfortunately you gave her an opportunity to deflect. And look at that. That's exactly what she did.
@kareng (80243)
• United States
4 Dec 24
I expected it. But I did not expect the statement that he is also pardoned for any and everything he did wrong or may have done wrong during that numerous number of years that was listed. CRAZY!!!
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@BarBaraPrz (51811)
• St. Catharines, Ontario
2 Dec 24
What did Hunter do and who names their kid Hunter, anyway?
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@porwest (112717)
• United States
3 Dec 24
The nature of his crimes and the outcomes are for you to do your own homework on. It's out there to find though. But I agree, Hunter is a weird name, although not all that uncommon of one. I think what's more important in this pardon issue is the context of it. Presidents pardon people. It's a time honored thing. I take no issue with the pardon itself. I am more curious how the Biden and Harris supporters view it in the context of their arguments against Trump and how they used the assurances that they would NOT pardon their son BECAUSE of the law needing to be respected. Not only did Biden go back on his word. He went against his very argument why Trump should have been held to the law. Now, I will say, that in the cases whereas Trump is concerned, I personally do not believe Trump DID actually break any laws. But that's for another day. It doesn't negate the point.
@kaylachan (84701)
• Daytona Beach, Florida
2 Dec 24
I wish I could say I'm surprised, but I'm not. Everyone who's done their homework knows how Joe feels about his son- Hunter. Now, I thought I either read somewhere, that Biden didn't plan to pardon his son, but that Trump agreed he'd do it when he came into power. But, well, I guess Joe just couldn't wait.
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@kaylachan (84701)
• Daytona Beach, Florida
2 Dec 24
@porwest I saw some of the news clips online this morning. And, they played a clip where Biden did in fact say that, but sometime over the thanksgiving holiday, he changed his mind. Saying something alongs about loving his son and being in this tough position as a president and father. But it's breaking news on youtube for sure. And, some of the lefties are pissed about this. At least the two that were interviewed seemed to be. And, rightfully so. I think I would be, too.
@porwest (112717)
• United States
2 Dec 24
I don't recall Trump ever suggesting he would pardon Hunter Biden. Maybe he did. I simply do not recall it. But I do recall Biden saying on multiple occasions he would not pardon his son and would respect and honor the law. He even used it to try to convey the idea that no one is above the law, even his own son, and to convince the American people he was seriously interested in the law being applied to Trump. The left is in a tough spot because if they dismiss Biden's pardoning of his son, they have to also admit that the law was never the issue when it came to Trump. Getting Trump was.
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@lovebuglena (52142)
• Staten Island, New York
2 Dec 24
I did not hear this. When did it happen? And what happens now?
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@porwest (112717)
• United States
2 Dec 24
He pardoned his son Sunday night. What happens now is Hunter is a free man, and his record is erased. It's as though his crimes never happened. Like I said in my post, I have no personal issue with Biden doing it. It's something presidents have always done and have always had the privilege of doing. I may not always agree with who gets pardoned. But I support the presidential privilege to do it. The key point here is the law and how adamant that Biden and then Harris supporters were that the law be upheld, and their repeated insistence that no one is above the law, and therefore, Trump should be held to account regardless of his former position (at the time). It is an interesting development mainly for that reason, because it not only pardons Hunter Biden, but it also erases the left's entire argument that people should pay for their crimes regardless of who they are or what power they had, or who has the power to avoid prosecution from occurring. It is an opportunity to see the left's true colors now that the shoe is on the other foot. Like I said to LouAvul, I don't expect they will comment here. How can they? They have egg on their faces and even though they would never admit it, they're caught between a rock and a hard place. How could we ever take their cries for the law to be applied to everyone now so seriously as they wanted us to when it applied to Trump, if they even remotely suggest they agree with Biden pardoning his own son? This is a classic "gotcha" moment. The gotcha isn't the pardon. It will be Biden and Harris supporter's reaction to it. As soon as they come out and say, "No big deal," it is an instant tell the law never mattered. Convicting Trump specifically did. They were not interested in the law. They were interested in taking down one man they hated.
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@lovebuglena (52142)
• Staten Island, New York
2 Dec 24
@porwest if Biden’s son is actually guilty then he shouldn’t be pardoned regardless of who is doing the pardoning. And I don’t think he should be pardoned just because he happens to be the president’s son. But that’s my opinion. If Trump pardons some people the left should not have an issue with it.
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@porwest (112717)
• United States
3 Dec 24
@lovebuglena Like I said, I take no issue with the pardon itself. It's the president's prerogative to do it. What is at issue for me is how much the left slammed their fists about the law, then came out and used Biden's assurances he would NOT pardon his son and honor the law, all to justify continuing to pursue Trump, only to completely disregard the law in the end in making the decision to pardon. As for pardons in general, I think we have always questioned certain ones. But of course, in the end it doesn't change the fact that someone is pardoned. Trump has committed to pardoning J6ers, and I think he should. Will the left have an issue with that if he does? You betcha they will. But he has never said he would NOT pardon J6ers.
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@moffittjc (128824)
• Gainesville, Florida
6 Dec 24
I’m ok with Biden pardoning his son, because when Trump pardons himself during his presidency not one person can say a word about it.
@dgobucks226 (37621)
6 Dec 24
Biden has lied his whole political career no surprise there. From plagiarizing speeches to changing his position on civil rights. Did we really think Biden was not going to pardon Hunter. After all, it's his son. Most fathers would. Hunter got one terrific present from the "Big Guy." Now, why the pretense? That is the question. Maybe his denials served a purpose when he still was in the running as a presidential candidate. Maybe Biden was forced to do it because Harris lost the election and if she won would have pardoned Hunter. In any event, he put a nail right through his legacy with this dishonesty, well, what was left of it. As far as the TDSers they will say, so what that he lied, every politician lies. A sweeping generalization to justify what Biden did. Of course, saying everyone in politics lies is like saying all white policeman are racist. An assumption not based on facts. Then you may hear an argument about all the court cases against Trump and especially about the one in New York over campaign finances. And they will use this logic to say that Trump was convicted of a felony and will "get off" so why shouldn't Hunter. What they won't tell you is that NY sham of a trial should have been about campaign bookkeeping discrepancies which is a misdemeanor punishable by fine not a felony charge. And they won't tell you that Kamala herself was brought up on campaign finance charges similar to Trump's when she was running for D.A. In that case the court ruled Kamala to pay a fine for spending beyond the allowable amount in that campaign. NO FELONY! What the real issue in the Biden pardon of Hunter is the claim by the "Big Guy" that Hunter was being politically persecuted, when in fact he was actually found "guilty" of a "real felony" in a favorable jurisdiction. The only one persecuted was Trump who could not get his trial moved to a more unbiased non corrupt part of New York state with a fair jury and judge! So, Joe Biden saying Hunter was being politically persecuted... now that "is a crime."