TIPS

@porwest (97616)
United States
March 12, 2025 9:03am CST
I am not sure if it is actually true, or if someone just made it up, but the concept behind it, true or not, still makes perfect sense when it comes to offering someone a tip. Supposedly the word "tip" or "tips" is an acronym for, "to insure promptness and service." Part of what makes me think it might be made up is, shouldn't it be ENSURE? In any event. In other words, a tip was always meant to be something extra offered as an added thank you for someone going above and beyond and even making one's life easier. Granted, we know that wait staff are paid very much under the minimum wage, so tips are very important to them. But it seems as tipping culture has evolved, and quite honestly gotten out of control, it's the earning part of the equation that has sadly been forgotten about. No, a tip is not a given. You still must earn it, and it is not unfair if you don't get one because you haven't done something to get one—it's only unfair if you did earn it but someone didn't offer it. I mean, think about DoorDash, Uber Eats, and even grocery delivery. You PRE-tip, which makes NO sense and completely defies the purpose OF a tip in the first place. What if the food was cold and took longer than expected to get? What if the delivery driver was a turd? What if the order wasn't right? The person gets tipped REGARDLESS of whether or not the tip was actually deserved. Even the automatic gratuity for large groups is a bit over the top egregious to me. It's often set at 18%. But how does this "INSURE" promptness and service if the tip is automatic? We need to not only change our tipping culture, but we need people to understand that a tip is EARNED and not simply deserved just because you showed up.
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@xFiacre (13362)
• Ireland
12 Mar
@porwest In Athens restaurants the waiters have the nerve to ask if you want to offer a tip if you pay by credit card. Not if you pay by cash. I learned to pay by cash.
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@porwest (97616)
• United States
12 Mar
Are tips customary there like they are here in the States?
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@xFiacre (13362)
• Ireland
12 Mar
@porwest the waiters in Athens certainly think so! On the islands they never ask for a tip and consequently customers like me are more generous.
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@porwest (97616)
• United States
13 Mar
@xFiacre Here it's gotten to the point of ridiculous with tip jars in many places where there should be no expectation of a tip at all. I am generous when it comes to tipping, but there are certain things I absolutely will not tip for.
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@DaddyEvil (143758)
• United States
12 Mar
Thank you for voicing my thoughts on this matter. Have you noticed that there is a tip jar now at every filling station? I put the gas in and come inside to pay for it. Why should the person running a register get tipped? They didn't do anything for me.
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@kareng (71041)
• United States
13 Mar
@DaddyEvil That is happening at a lot of places. I have noticed tip jars at Fox's Pizza, Subway, and even some fast food places. It's way out of hand!
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@DaddyEvil (143758)
• United States
13 Mar
@kareng Gas stations are the only places we go besides doctors and grocery stores.
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@porwest (97616)
• United States
13 Mar
I have not seen that, but I am sure it's happening. Tip jars are everywhere anymore and it's really become tiring people expecting to be tipped just for doing their job. We need to get this under control.
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@kareng (71041)
• United States
13 Mar
Right!! Totally agree!
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@kareng (71041)
• United States
13 Mar
@porwest I think it is tied to these people that think they should be entitled to everything without putting in the work for it.
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@porwest (97616)
• United States
13 Mar
It's gotten crazy, if you ask me.
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@porwest (97616)
• United States
14 Mar
@kareng That, and it's a guilt trip money grab. If they can make you feel guilty you might tip, and if they can get you to tip just because...they figure why not? I never feel guilty not leaving a tip where one is not warranted.
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@LindaOHio (184773)
• United States
13 Mar
Yup. I totally agree with you.
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@LindaOHio (184773)
• United States
14 Mar
@porwest I would rather pay more for a meal than have to tip.
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@porwest (97616)
• United States
13 Mar
It has gotten so out of hand. I do think most people have tired of it, so, perhaps a revolt is already underway.
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@porwest (97616)
• United States
14 Mar
@LindaOHio Frankly, I would too. At the same time, when waitstaff are polled, they are overwhelmingly in favor of tips over a higher standard wage since they tend to make much more over minimum wage when tips are added in.
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@Faster16 (3252)
• Indonesia
13 Mar
It's a complex issue with no easy solutions. Changing the mindset around tipping will require a collective effort from both consumers and service providers.
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@porwest (97616)
• United States
14 Mar
You are right. In order for positive, acceptable change, everyone will need to be on the same page. THAT'S the hardest part to accomplish. Getting everyone on the same page.
• India
13 Mar
The idea that "tip" stands for "To Ensure Promptness and Service" is interesting, but it does seem more like a backronym than the actual origin of the word. I do agree with you that "ensure" would be the correct word in that context, which makes the explanation even more questionable. It seems the original purpose of tipping was to reward exceptional service, and never ever to replace fair wages. Over time, unfortunately tipping culture has evolved to the point where it often feels more like an obligation than a reward. Pre-tipping for services like DoorDash or Uber Eats undermines the whole concept since you’re rewarding service before knowing its quality. Automatic gratuity, especially at 18% or higher, can feel very high when service is not up to marks. Tipping should definitely be a reflection of good service, not something expected by default. A fair wage system would help reduce reliance on tips and bring tipping back to being a true reward for great service. Thats my take!
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@porwest (97616)
• United States
13 Mar
Your take is correct, and I agree with you.
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@jstory07 (142673)
• Roseburg, Oregon
13 Mar
A tip should only be given if you give great service.
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@porwest (97616)
• United States
13 Mar
That's the way it's supposed to be. But here we are.
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@moffittjc (123243)
• Gainesville, Florida
16 Mar
Tipping has gotten out of hand, I agree. I generally will tip 15% if the service was substandard, 20% if it was right what I expected, and 25% if I felt the service staff went above and beyond.
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@moffittjc (123243)
• Gainesville, Florida
20 Mar
@porwest I used to be that way, using 10%, 15% and 20% as my basis. But nowadays I've gotten a little more generous with my tips.
@porwest (97616)
• United States
17 Mar
A 25% tip is rare for me, but yeah, I pretty much do the same thing, although a really bad experience might only get 10%.
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@Fleura (31368)
• United Kingdom
12 Mar
Here a tip/gratuity is generally optional. In some places such as restaurants, it is added to the bill but you can decline to include that. I have never used DoorDash, Uber Eats, or even grocery delivery, so I have no idea whether a so-called tip is included in the price but as you say, if it is included then it isn't a tip is it? It's just part of the charge. And you are right about the insure/ ensure point as well.
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@lovebuglena (46040)
• Staten Island, New York
12 Mar
I hate when restaurants automatically add 18% to the bill. And then after they swipe your card the receipt you have to sign has a tip line for you to fill in. Don’t expect a tip if you already took 18% from me. Also, the tip is meant for the waiter as I understand. Why aren’t we tipping based on the whole dining experience? Like if I don’t like my food for any reason or it took too long to get it, etc. I don’t want to give a high tip or maybe even any.
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@dgobucks226 (36314)
15 Mar
I agree with your analysis. It has gotten out of hand. You pick up a pizza (no delivery) and there on the counter is a tip jar. For bringing out your pizza from the kitchen which is supposed to be your job anyway. I never could understand that one. And now we are dictated to on how much to tip for service with automatic gratuity. If the service is lousy, one must still tip a specific amount. Where is the incentive for a job well done, seems you are guaranteed a respectable tip no matter what the level of service.
@sarik1 (7464)
15 Mar
I agree to your point .
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@porwest (97616)
• United States
15 Mar
Tipping culture has gotten way crazy and out of hand.
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