How nice of her!!!!!!!

I sure was surprised - I'm sure anyone would be if the same thing happened to them.
@arkaf61 (10881)
Canada
February 5, 2008 11:38pm CST
WEll I found out from a perfect stranger - more or less - that my daughter is not my husband's child. OK enough for a shock LOL THe fact is that she is but actually that's beside the point. Actually I thought about starting this discussion after responding another one today. THe story goes like this: I heard the doorbell. Wasn't really expecting anyone but I know that sometimes people confuse our doorbell with the one for downstairs for my in laws so I went downstairs. IT was a friend of my mother in law. I have met her a long time ago and we talked briefly a few times at that time, but she has been away from Toronto for quite a long time so I never saw her again. I explained that my in laws weren't home and politely asked her how she was doing. SHe asked about my husband and then the kids and when I answered that they were all well she commented: "SO your husband did accept your daughter." What in....????????? Why wouldn't he? " well - she continued - given the fact that he is not the father... some men don't accept it" Wait a second? I need to rewind here. Huh? By then I'm lost. Maybe she's confusing me with someone else. Maybe she is ill? I understand that the confusion showed in my face because she tried to make me feel better - I guess it can be called that - and explained that it was ok that my mother in law told her everything. She knows that my daughter is actually the daughter of this Filipino man I had an affair with. Please don't take me wrong, I have nothing but respect for all the Filipino men out there, but I did not have an affair and did not know any Filipino man around the time I got pregnant. By then the lady seems worried about her indiscretion, maybe she shouldn't have touched the subject. But she seemed convinced that my "Pecadillo" was general knowledge. I was mad for a few minutes, but not for long. I really don't feel like giving my mother in law the power to upset me that much. Even if this was true, which it isn't, maybe it was something not to comment with others. THen again if she told her friends that her daughter left her husband because of some other man, why couldn't she tell them that my daughter was not her son's child? Makes sense I guess. Of course who knows how many people are walking around thinking that it's true, but hey, what do I care? They're not my friends anyway. Throughout the years I heard from others many of the things my mother in law spread about me, but this one kind of takes the cake. It's actually funny:) IF this was some years ago, I would be feeling upset but might not tell hubby because I always tried not to do or say anything that could get them upset at each other, but this is not years ago so I told him. He was angry but we can now actually have fun with it. SInce my daughter heard the conversation with the lady at the door, she knows about it as well. SOmetimes when she asks us for money my husband tells her to go ask her father and she keeps the joke on saying she already called him but he's broke so she had to resort to the second best, and because they're both silly that way they end up laughing their heads off. But really, when we think of it, it just reminds me that my mother in law really isn't one of the good people. OH well... just talking .....
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@gabs8513 (48686)
• United Kingdom
6 Feb 08
Well Twin I have to say for once you and I would acted different as I would not have ignored that I would have had words I am sorry but she has made your Name Muck I am glad that your Husband and your lovely Daughter take it in good Humour as not many would what is it with your Mother in Law Mind you I have been through it many many years with my In laws I just do not understand people like her I really don't If I was there I would ask Gissi to poo on her Door step But he wouldn't as he is to fussy where he poos and I think he would think that your Mother in law is not worth his Poo Ok I know I sound awful here but I do not like People like her and I certainly do not like things being said about my Twin that is not true I do not like People like her upsetting you as it affects me to as we are Twins No seriously Sweetie I would not have taken it as easy as you I would and did many years ago but the last 5 years I do not keep quiet anymore and crawl in a corner like I used to Love and Hugs to you Sweetie
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@gabs8513 (48686)
• United Kingdom
6 Feb 08
You know I will always be behind you Twin
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@arkaf61 (10881)
• Canada
12 Feb 08
OH my God!!! I just realized I wrote waist instead of waste... I had to be pretty tired for that one LOL
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@arkaf61 (10881)
• Canada
6 Feb 08
It's so nice to know you're there twin:) I actually don't act because I really don't care. Some years back I would be really upset and expect her to explain herself and to retract. But you see that was when I cared. NOw I don't and it's a wonderful feeling to finally be able not to be affected by her, what she things or what she says:):):) I do not like people like her in general, but as a rule I don't waist my energy with them. My life has much better things to think about and I have my own problems that I want to concentrate on. ANything coming from her? not worth:) BUt it's good to know that my twin is there right behind me.
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@Debs_place (10520)
• United States
7 Feb 08
Wow, you are a good person to continue to live in the same house as your MIL and not beat her to a pulp or at least give her a piece of your mind. But then I guess, it sounds as if you guys enjoy the comic relief she brings, You are so lucky that this did not break up your marriage and your family. Have you thought of planting some seeds, so she could say more stupid things and make her appear totally ludicrous?
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@Debs_place (10520)
• United States
7 Feb 08
You are a good person, I would not put up with it. I would sell, make her buy you out or she has to move too. How many years do you have left on that mortgage??
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@arkaf61 (10881)
• Canada
12 Feb 08
I have about 4 more years in this mortgage. We'll see what we can do after that. If I lasted almost 20 years I certainly can last 4 more :)
@arkaf61 (10881)
• Canada
7 Feb 08
I have no choice in living in the same house. WE bought it together and until all the mortgage is paid it would be an impulsive decision to try and get away, plus one can't sell half a house:) It is two different apartments thought so I really don't have to even see her most times. I used to get really upset and down with the stuff coming from her. I"m cured for some years now :)
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@SViswan (12051)
• India
6 Feb 08
Some people are just too crazy!!! She's going around telling people that her grandchild is not really her grandchild! I bet she didn't even realize that part!!! It's a good thing your family is able to joke about it....I would have been soooooo mad!!!!I would have wanted my husband to get upset at her...c'mon telling someone that your child is not that of your husband is telling someone that you have no character and that you cheated on your husband! My neighbour's mother-in-law is like your mother-in-law! But luckily, she hasn't gone as far as to say that the father of the child is someone else...probably because she knows she'll be thrown out of the house if she did! Sheesh!! Some people are just plain crazy!
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@SViswan (12051)
• India
13 Jul 08
Thanks for the BR. And I'm glad you don't let her craziness affect you.
@arkaf61 (10881)
• Canada
6 Feb 08
Plain craxy that is LOL Actually maybe not. I remember hubby's aunt - her sister in law - use to have an answer when I said my mother in law was crazy. She would say" She's not crazy. If she was crazy she would be going around hitting her head on the walls. She would talk to herself and do other things that crazy people do. SHe's not crazy. She's just plain mean." As the years passed I kind of tend to agree. SHe is not crazy enough to do anything about her own reputation or herself. Just to others. But I also learned that giving this or any of her other tricks some importance is exactly what she craves and will give her much more importance in our lives than what she really has. I"m not easily upset by what other people say of me. There's only two kinds of people out there. The ones that I care enough to want to know the truth - and those ones know me which means they wouldn't take her word for it. And the ones that I don't give a rat's a$$, and those ones I couldn't care less if they believe it or not. But yeah...some people are plain crazy LOL
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@polachicago (18716)
• United States
7 Feb 08
I remember already about your mother in law. I would respond: "Oh, yes, and I have baby twin also with the same Filipino man and one with Cherokee Indians" She is very insecure and probably boring with herself... It reminds me my former mother in law...lol
@arkaf61 (10881)
• Canada
7 Feb 08
hehehe she would be completely confused with the twin child - she's not very bright:) It is true, she's bored and she is boring. SOmetimes I look at some people's lives and I feel a bit sorry for them. They didn't really ever had a life. She is an example. Hubby's aunt is another even now that she's retired and could maybe do some things that she always wanted to do she is tied up because she's taking care of her mom 24/7. That is the only likeness between the two though. Even though hubby's aunt life has been less than a nice life, she is still a very nice person.
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@vera5d (4005)
• United States
6 Feb 08
i can relate, my mother in law is plainly insane also...humor seems to be the only way to really cope with it because otherwise you'd find yourself p'd off about something every day...that one is pretty darn funny though...
@arkaf61 (10881)
• Canada
7 Feb 08
Yes humor is pretty much the way to deal about it. PLus in a small way it is a bit of vengeance since I know that it's not what she expects. SHe prefers fights, arguments, getting everyone upset at each other.
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@AICIRT81 (847)
• United States
6 Feb 08
OMG LMAO The nerve of some people! I can't believe that a grandmother would say that about her granddaughter. Weird! I just dont understand people sometimes.
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@arkaf61 (10881)
• Canada
6 Feb 08
LOL Knowing her I shouldn't have been surprised but I kind of was for a minute heheheh SHe's a very strange person as is most of her side of the family. MY mother was right - mother is always right, but we don't realize than until later LOL But I took away her power to hurt me a while back, so this as it is has been more of a joke to us than anything that is bothering us. However, with different people, it could have been something quite serious.
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@AICIRT81 (847)
• United States
7 Feb 08
i think we all know our fair share old weird people. just think of how boring life would be if they were all normal.
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@Bev1986 (1425)
• United States
6 Feb 08
You know, that is terrible! I'm glad you can laugh about it, but I would be livid!!! How dare she say that about you! Does she treat you badly a lot? Or was this something that surprised you? I feel bad for your daughter that her grandmother would say that...
@arkaf61 (10881)
• Canada
6 Feb 08
For many years I was treated like a queen when hubby was around and verbally abused when he wasn't. My fault really, because I should have told him from the beginning but I was not experienced in people like this or families like this and didn't want to create problems between the two of them. MY family was so different that I didn't know that well how to deal with it. After over 10 years and when she finally had almost been able to disrupt our life that we were close to separate, I just had enough. After that, life has been much easier. WIthout the power to hurt me or upset me, she's really nothing:) If my daughter was younger this might have had a really negative effect on her, but as it is, nothing coming from her surprises my daughter either.
@Fishmomma (11377)
• United States
6 Feb 08
I would have been floored to hear this news. I'm hoping your daughter isn't upset to hear this news. I'm speechless and think you have the most unusual mother in law. My mother in law isn't with us any longer, but I must say this about her she always was respectful towards me.
@arkaf61 (10881)
• Canada
6 Feb 08
Nah.. my daughter was cured from getting upset about what grandma does to her starting when she was about four and grandma have her other granddaughter there visiting. THe two kids would be playing together and grandma would call the other one to go out. Naturally my daughter would ask if she could go too. Grandma would say " But of course, my dear, go get dressed" and then live with my niece while my daughter was coming up for me to help her get dressed. My mother in law is a very peculiar person - ok she's just not nice :) = but it's not only directed at us - although there's a lot thrown our way - it's directed at everyone, the whole world. In a way I feel sorry for her.
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@twoey68 (13627)
• United States
6 Feb 08
I'd take it a step further and come next Christmas I'd go to the in-law's house for Christmas and while exchanging gifts I'd pull out a special gift for the daughter and when the M-I-L asks who it's from, I'd say "you know, my daughter's REAL father". LOL But then, I'm evil that way. It is unbelievable that she'd spread stories like that. It is great though that your family can joke about it. Some ppl just have nothing better to do with their time. !!HAPPY VALENTINE'S DAY!! **AT PEACE WITHIN** ~~STAND STRONG IN YOUR BELIEFS~~
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@arkaf61 (10881)
• Canada
6 Feb 08
LOL I love that one heheheheh Sounds like a lot of fun and I think we will probably use it with your permission. OH my, it's just perfect !!!! I"m afraid my mother in law spreads stories about everyone, not only us. It's her way of feeling better than the others and to think she has a life - you see there aren't many people paying attention to her but while she's spreading some of her lies there are always one or two people that believe it until they learn that's what she does with everyone. I really like the way your mind works LOL
@arkaf61 (10881)
• Canada
6 Feb 08
Years well worth LOL The only people that believe her -for a bit - are her new friends. Then they learn better. It has to be a very sad life.
@twoey68 (13627)
• United States
6 Feb 08
Thank you, it's taken years to get it this warped. :) Sounds like as more ppl get to know her, less will believe her stories. !!HAPPY VALENTINE'S DAY!! **AT PEACE WITHIN** ~~STAND STRONG IN YOUR BELIEFS~~
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@naty1941 (2336)
• United States
6 Feb 08
I have an Aunt that is like your mother in law. They are mean and know exactly what they are saying and how much pain they can cause. However, they don't care as they spread their lies around town and with the family. i keep away from my Aunt and hardly ever talk to her.
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@arkaf61 (10881)
• Canada
7 Feb 08
Now imagine the mistake I did when buying the house with my in laws LOL Nothing that I can do about it now since my financial situation does not allow me to buy another house just for us. THe mortgage on this one is almost done and then maybe we can think of something but I'm afraid I might have to live with them for a while now. True it is two different apartments and I don't even have to see her if I don't want to but it's still the same house. For the last 10 years or so we do talk but just the things that need to be talked about - things about the house, greetings etc. That's about it and for the first time in many years I have been feeling much better :)
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@misheleen73 (6037)
• United States
6 Feb 08
Wow, what a piece of work !! One of my hubby's cousins up here hates me and told everyone I had cheated and he was stupid for taking me back.. lol. I never cheated, but hey it's her little world, she can believe whatever she wants. I'm glad you are able to laugh about it. It is a shame your daughter heard that though. She shouldn't have had to be subjected to someone else's madness. I am sure she's ok with it, but still what bad taste on the womans part !!
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@arkaf61 (10881)
• Canada
6 Feb 08
A piece of work it is my friend :) THInk about it she even said the same thing about her own daughter! - at least she did tell everyone in a circle of (then) friends that she had left her husband because of another man-. I know that a lot of people would be really upset but why would I give any importance from what she says? Actually my lack of response and my treating those things as the joke they are upsets her way more than if I got angry and get into an argument with her because that is what she would like, it makes her feel important LOL I never put any obstacles into them seeing my kids or being with them. I also never said anything negative about my mother in law in presence of my kids. Some people would think this was a silly move on my part, but it really wasn't. Had they grown up hearing me talking about grandma, they would first learn to talk bad about others - justified or not - and also always have the doubt( was grandma really bad or is mom just talking because she's mad at grandma? ) WHat I did was take that away from the equation and let my kids learn about grandma by themselves. As they grew up they slowly learned about her their own way. Now that they are teenagers they have a pretty good idea. THey still like her grandparents, but they don't take much of what grandma says as the truth and they are not hurt by her or what she says. My daughter was not hurt by at her first comment was " that so and so is at it again" but she is still learning how her grandma can really be dangerous. THis Filipino father is the basis of many jokes in here lately which sadly proves that in our family every one considers my mother in law a joke, but the truth is that it could have been really damaging if it happened to other people.
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@drannhh (15219)
• United States
6 Feb 08
Whew, that was rough reading. I can't even begin to imagine what it would have been like to have had to live that story, especially if it had been told way back when. You are so right, though, in that you do not have to let your ignorant mother-in-law hurt you. You have considered the source. Surely your friends know better, and probably her friends do too, if she has any left. I sometimes think I am so blessed that my mother-in-law didn't speak English. The first time she saw me, she gave me a look that would have curdled milk, but I have no idea what she said, lol, as when I asked hubby to translate, what he said was not even close. Instead of telling me the truth, he whispered some of what we used to call "sweet nothings" in my ear instead. "Your mother did NOT say I have a nice behind," I told him, but he never would tell me what she actually said. Your father and daughter joke is so sweet and both of them are so wise to turn something that ludicrous into a happy routine. You, too, are most wise to take it all in stride. Keep smiling!
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@arkaf61 (10881)
• Canada
6 Feb 08
OH drannhh I"M sure your mother in law did say you had a nice behind. ANd if she didn't , that's what hubby thought anyways so that's what counts :) The issue of mothers in law is a complicated one. Like every one else some are just great people. Some are great people but have a bit of trouble letting go of their sons which makes them a bit opinionated sometimes - and I can even understand that - while some are just naturally people who are not really nice. They would be "not nice" even if they weren't mothers in law. They are like that with most anyone that crosses their lifes. That's my mother in law's case, and what makes it worse is that I'm not even sure if she realizes who she is, and I feel some pity for her. SHe's ignorant and selfish. And all she does and says is , in her mind, to make her look better than the others around her. Often without even realizing that the things she says don't reflect well on her either. She doesn't even think that she is harming the people she's talking about, because she is just focusing on how it will make her look so much better. The others are irrelevant, so she doesn't even consider the consequences of what she does or says. I have an idea that her family life as she was growing up was pretty much the same and that she learned a lot of who she is by example - her mom was pretty much like her too. She is a person with many friend but not long time friends. WHich makes sense because once they understand who she is they tend to distance themselves from her. She makes new friends and they seem to become the focus of her life for a while and then they just disappear form her life and there she is talking bad about all of them. I understand she might be hurt because they distance themselves, but she should be able to understand why they do and realize it was because of the way she is and how she deals with people. If a friend of mine - wouldn't be my friend in the first place but... - spends her time talking about the other people that aren't there, it wouldn't take me too long to get the idea that once i left she would be talking about me too.
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• United States
6 Feb 08
I just have to say that you are a phenomenal woman. Fill me in if you have since said anything to you mother-in-law.
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@arkaf61 (10881)
• Canada
7 Feb 08
I am certainly not going to talk to her about it, or about much anyway. We are more in the just saying good morning, goodbye, how are you doing kind of thing. I will help her out if she needs, and will respond if she talks but we haven't talked in the social sense of the word for a long time. Talking to her about it would give her more joy than what I am willing to give her so it won't happen.
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• United States
7 Feb 08
Probbly for the best-I definitely am well familiar with women like her.
• United States
6 Feb 08
LMAO. I can't believe that. Well actually your MIL and MIL could be related so I do believe it. :) The funny thing is (beside it being no of her business) is that this pretty much stranger just matter of factly threw it out there out of the blue. UMMMM last time I checked "How are you doing?" Is not followed by so your husband accepted your love child as his? LOL The only thing worse than lying people is nosy people who like to act like they know what they are talking about.
@arkaf61 (10881)
• Canada
7 Feb 08
LOL I think that puzzled me even more than anything else. BUt then again I have met some of her friends before so maybe it shouldn't hehehehe The thing is that she was so certain that it was general knowledge. taking in consideration that my mother in law is not only someone that lies but one of the worse gossips I I guess she is not on the best list of that many people.
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@starangel (414)
• United States
7 Feb 08
I would've made that woman feel so stupid. lol. the nerve! Don't worry, I wouldn't put it past my MIL to do the same thing. she tried to tell me how to name my children and got mad at me because i wouldn't give them the name she wanted me to give them. She's tried to break up our marriage. She's ruthless. she doesn't even like our children. she won't have anything to do w/ us...and because my husband is loyal to his family, she has deserted him, too. nobody likes her. I've tried to give her the benefit, but she completely destroyed that. what is it w/ MIL that act that way? I notice it's more common on the husbands side for mothers to act that way. I hope i don't end up like that.
@GardenGerty (157865)
• United States
6 Feb 08
How did your husband turn out so nice and well rounded? She is a mess. Has she had a stroke or some other illness that affected her mentally? I think I would be tempted to start telling people that she is not really your mother in law, but a space alien. LOL. She is nuts!!!
@arkaf61 (10881)
• Canada
6 Feb 08
Yes she is a mess. But thankfully I'm not worried about how that mess thinks about me anymore. It took me a long time to get here but I'm here LOL She didn't have a stroke but I actually do think that maybe she has had something else, some other problem. But if she did, it would have been long long time ago, when she was a kid. Maybe she fell and hit her head or something. Because some of the things she does and says are really, really strange. Some don't even make sense. Maybe you're actually right, she is a space alien LOL Nah.... I"m sure a space alien would be nicer hehehehe No, really , you know what? I actually feel kind of sorry for her. I know it's by her own fault, but think about it: She doesn't have friends. She doesn't really have a life. People don't visit neither they invite her over. Her own daughter disconnected her doorbell so she would have an excuse not to open the door to her mother. WHen she worked she had so many problems each day had to be really hard on her. Some people even pretend not to see her when they cross each other in the street. ANd to make it worse, when she needs a favour she sees herself limited to have to ask one of the persons she hates more in the world - because I "took " his son away from her - ME. ANd worse yet, I actually help her. Is this a life? No, she's more to be pitied than anything else, once we past the stage of being hurt by her.
@lucy02 (5016)
• United States
6 Feb 08
What I'm wondering is what kind of friend she has that would say all that to you and in front of your child. They both sound screwy to me. You are wise not to let this woman bother you. It sounds like bothering you may be where she gets her joy. Don't give her the satisfaction.
@arkaf61 (10881)
• Canada
6 Feb 08
WHat kind of friend would you expect her to have ? The nuts ones like her LOL Truth be said she didn't see my daughter. She coming up with the laundry. But you are very right, it upsets her more not to get a reaction from us because she enjoys arguments and fights. Long time ago I was still struggling to deal with her and might have reacted. BUt now I never give her the satisfaction.
@onesiobhan (1327)
• Canada
7 Feb 08
What a bizarre thing to go around telling people. Do you think she believes the stories she tells? Maybe she has some kind of mental problem.
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• Canada
12 Feb 08
I am very aware of what it feels like to have family members tell lies to strangers. It happened in both David's and my family of origin...and it is just one of the many reasons we are thankful not to have any association with any of them anymore. We are so far beyond the 'tribal thinking' that society says we should maintain...just because they are 'family.' We have bonds with people who are more like family to us than ours ever were. We consider them 'soul family' and the dynamics are healthy...took us awhile to create that for ourselves...but worth all the effort it took to arrive here. What we went through gives us much greater sensitivity to what our clients face...so in end it was all good. Now when we work with clients and ask them..."Would you tolerate this type of behavior from anyone else?" The response is always..."Of course not...but this person is family...aren't we supposed to stick together?" Our approach is different because our work involves assisting others in living their best lives in the most healthy, dynamic ways. So...when situations are as emotionally toxic as what things sound with your mother-n-law we'd probably suggest that it might be time to begin holding her more accountable for the cause and effect of her words and actions. However, that choice is yours to make. Interesting dynamic you have there...if you want to chat more...send me an e-mail and I'd be happy to discuss it. My thoughts are with you...sending you harmonious vibes in what sounds like a disconcerting dance! Good to know you, your hubby and daughter use humor to lighten things up. Works every time! Cheers and chuckles... Raia