Kindergarten teachers

Kindergarten teacher - A noble profession
@SViswan (12051)
India
March 4, 2008 12:42am CST
I was actually going to start a discussion about kindergarten teachers being women and wondering why that was the case because men could be good kg teachers too...when I came across pictures of male kindergarten teachers. I've never come across male kindergarten teachers...and I also feel there are none in India. Has any of you had or known a male kindergarten teacher? What were your experiences?
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@ElicBxn (63235)
• United States
4 Mar 08
Never having had a child, I don't know too many kindergarten teachers, I do know one, but I know her because she's a neighbor/friend of my roommate's folks. The only stories I've ever heard about male kindergarten teachers, are well publicized cases of child abuse, most notably the one out of California (I think) where the mother & at least 1 son were involved in some serious charges of child abuse. I think that part of the reason women get into the field is because many don't have any education and being a "child care worker" at a kindergarten can be a way to supliment their income and often they start when their own child is in the facility so they get discounted child care too. Personally, I can't think of a much worse job....
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@SViswan (12051)
• India
5 Mar 08
Which place are you talking about? The schools I have applied to will not take a candidate who has not done an early childhood course. But we do get discounted child care if our child is in the same school.
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@SViswan (12051)
• India
6 Mar 08
wow...I didn't know that was possible in the US...lol...misconceptions I had in my head. Well...here any unlicensed place is something like a daycare. The place I work at is a kindergarten and part of a school...and most kindergartens follow the same system..especially the licensed ones.
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@ElicBxn (63235)
• United States
5 Mar 08
Well, I'm in Texas, USA and a lot of the daycare can be done with people with no degrees, so long as they are working with the very youngest anyway, the lady I know is mostly working with under 2, and with supervision. I also know that in the state of Texas, anyway, that peole can have unlicienced day cares in their homes so long as they have less than, I think, 6 children that are not their own. Now, we know I don't have kids, how do I know this? I worked for the agency that give these facilities their liceneces...
@drannhh (15219)
• United States
4 Mar 08
I know some exist here, but I've never seen one. Haven't checked for a few years, actually, but the last I remember, only 2% of kindergarten teachers in the US were men. When I took early childhood development courses in college, though, most of the teachers were men.
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@SViswan (12051)
• India
5 Mar 08
Maybe they prefer teaching adults to handling little kids?
@SViswan (12051)
• India
6 Mar 08
That's interesting...because I never thought of it that way. Anyways, that's not the case in India...there are only women taking the course and very few men conducting them too.
@drannhh (15219)
• United States
5 Mar 08
Some do, but my experience is they are tracked into the higher levels of teaching just as women are tracked into the lower grades. This was really noticeable when I was a student taking education courses. Even women who majored in teaching at higher grade levels were placed with the younger children and vice versus. Refusing such a switched assignment often meant being dropped from the program so few budding teachers dared to challenge their assignments. I've taught at all levels, and I have that happen over and over, once even to me.
• India
4 Mar 08
No, I don’t think men would become good kg teachers, Sandhya. For one, men as fathers are not good at child rearing at home. It is not to say that they don’t do it or that all are inept, but majority of them are not very capable of handling a small kid (who is just older than a baby), its tantrums, its demands, its feeding, changing, the continuous attention is deserves and so on. Nothing wrong in it , but I think men have less patience than women in putting up with such things. Its just the way they are. And then men’s voices…a lot lot harsher and completely different from the mother’s soothing voice that the children are used to. And the physique of men is also too hard and when a child is lost, it seeks the softness of a mother’s body. Kg is but an extension of the home environment with the child taking its first step in the outside world without the protective umbrella called mother. So the kg environment should be as similar as to that which a mother can provide and hence we don’t have any male teacher’s in kg.
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@SViswan (12051)
• India
5 Mar 08
You are right if the conventional schools are considered. In our school, we have to have a very professional outlook. Doesn't mean that we do not cuddle the kids...but it is not a regular thing and the way things are done are very different from the conventional setup. But how men will cope in this environment, I cannot say till I find one here.
@williamjisir (22819)
• China
4 Mar 08
Hello dear SViswan. I think that it might be the reason that female teachers are more careful and tender to small kids at preschool. And also kids love more of their mothers and they would treat their teachers like their own mothers. It is the same in China that we seem not to have male kindergarten teachers. There are many jobs that fit women, like teachers, nurses, doctors, secretaries and such. I think that these jobs just need women because they are more careful and more caring. Could this be the reason? Thanks.
@SViswan (12051)
• India
5 Mar 08
Quite possible that was why it was initially a female dominated field...but now you see that genders turning. We find more male nurses....when I was younger, I didn't find a single one...and no gynaecs were men....but now we find men in both fields...though I have to agree in certain societies, people are more comfortable with women being in this professions rather than men.
• United States
4 Mar 08
I've never come across ANY teacher before the 4th grade that was a male. In all three schools I attended and on my kids two school it seems the norm for younger kids are female teachers. My neighbor was a grade school teacher and he taught 4th grade and I asked him why. He told me that anything before the 4th grade was too much work. You have to deal with kids having accidents in their pants, crying when they get upset, not listening when they are told the first 3 times to sit down and do their work etc etc etc So I assume that females teach the younger grades because they have more nurturing qualities then men do. They also have more patience. Great discussion!
@SViswan (12051)
• India
6 Mar 08
I guess that's right...but I also think more men are entering the field....maybe they are getting in touch with their softer selves:)
• Philippines
4 Mar 08
During when I was a kid, our school back then does not recruit teachers other than nuns, that's why later on when I was in college, I was quite surprised to see that our school has opened up it doors to male teachers in kindergarten.
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@SViswan (12051)
• India
6 Mar 08
Yes, it's a new thing...and males are just entering the field I think.
@subha12 (18441)
• India
4 Mar 08
i had one. he was the drawing teacher in our kindergarten school. But you are right, most are women teachers. i do not know why there are not men teachers as well. may be men are not happy with low paying jobs.
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@SViswan (12051)
• India
5 Mar 08
That might be true. But women are also not happy with low paying jobs...some of them do it because of their passion. But since men are considered primary bread winners of the family, they might not opt for the low paying job.
@dpk262006 (58675)
• Delhi, India
5 Mar 08
No, I have not come across any male KG Teacher so far. May be women in general can handle kids better than men. Women are soft, patient and caring and knows very well how to handle little kids. Men may not be as gentle with little kids as normally women are.
@SViswan (12051)
• India
6 Mar 08
Yes, that is the status in India....but there are a few male KG teachers in other parts of the world. The number is significantly low though. Who knows? 20 years from now there might be more.
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@SViswan (12051)
• India
9 Mar 08
I'm sure there will be in the future once we get out of our stereotype mentalities. Stereotypical expectations have impacted the kind of jobs men take up. Many men are pushed to take 'maly' professions. Some talented men have suffered unhappy lives and mediocre careers because their true interests and passions lay in 'feminine' subjects like arts and humanities...and they didn't have the social sanction to pursue it. I probably should start a new discussion on how gender equality would be more beneficial to men than to women:)
@dpk262006 (58675)
• Delhi, India
8 Mar 08
I wish there could be some male teachers in near future for a change.
@Rozie37 (15499)
• Turkmenistan
4 Mar 08
No I can not say that I have ever come across a male Kindergarten teacher. I am sure that there is a reason why there are not many, if any. It probably deserves a little research. I had never even thought about it. I think think traditionally teacher may have been a female profession, but I know I am not sure about that.
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@SViswan (12051)
• India
5 Mar 08
Yes, traditionally it is a female profession and just as women have entered predominantly male professions...males have entered female professions too (another example would be nurses). In middle school and high school, we find more more male teachers (though they are still less in number than the female teachers).
@aseretdd (13730)
• Philippines
4 Mar 08
There are very few kindergarten teachers since this type of job is viewed upon as only for women... and most schools prefer to hire women rather than men... since this might be an issue for the parents... come to think of it... i was a teacher for quite some time... but i never met any men who taught this level... I have no doubt that men can also be good kg teachers... but in my case... i prefer my baby to be taught by women rather than men...
@cupid74 (11388)
• Pakistan
4 Mar 08
and other thing is turn over salary at this grade is not high and men leave early to teach higherr classes and other things, turnover of females is always low
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@SViswan (12051)
• India
5 Mar 08
That's what I thought...but now I find that there are male kg teachers too. ...though fewer in number. The men might feel uncomfortable too in a predominantly female atmosphere...like we would feel when working only with men (I know how that feels because I've experienced it).
@kwenge (2487)
• Kenya
4 Mar 08
Hi Sviswan, My nephew is 3 and half years and he is in kg. They have 3 teachers and they are all male. And also in sunday school, their teacher is male. I agree with you that those are rare cases in most developed countries but here in my country there are even women truck drivers and they take it as any other job.
@SViswan (12051)
• India
5 Mar 08
Yes, on my visit to Africa, I have seen women in what we consider mostly 'male jobs'. It's interesting to know that ALL the teachers your nephew had were males.
• Australia
9 Mar 08
It is sad that there aren't more male teachers around at all. Especially when there are so many children growing up with just mum around. We need more male role models for our kids but because of the worlds attitude of 'he could molest my child' more men are dropping out of education.
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@SViswan (12051)
• India
12 Mar 08
Really? Is it the molestation aspect that is keeping men away? I just thought they didn't want to take up something that was generally accepted to be a woman's job. But that's interesting. I'm sure we'll see more male kindergarten teachers in the future.
@kiran1978 (4134)
• Australia
8 Mar 08
Not sure what age kindergarten teachers teach over there? Here in Australia we have male preschool teachers or prep teachers, who teach 5 year olds. However I mainly see women Preschool teachers at schools. It is becoming more popular here in Australia for men to teach the upper grades (year 6 and 7). I have never known a male kindergarten teacher personally, but I am sure they can do equally good a job teaching as women. I also think it would be good to have a male role model for some of the younger kids as some of them miss that at home. I have seen a few male child care workers and they seem quite good.
@SViswan (12051)
• India
9 Mar 08
Here kindergarten is usually for the age group of 3-5 years...and I haven't seen ANY male teachers in there. Though I have come across male teachers in the higher grade...even primary school had male teachers for art and sports....but the regular subjects are handled by lady teachers.
@Swaana (1205)
• India
4 Mar 08
Men make real good teachers and infact they become so soft and tender when they have to teach the little ones. But many schools and parents prefer female teachers, for simple reason that they will stick to the job for long. Many male teachers if they get a better opportunity they move out. But most female teachers dont do that that is the main reason.
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@SViswan (12051)
• India
5 Mar 08
I guess that could be one of the reasons. But at my place I find that female teachers leave often too...especially when their husbands are posted in a different city or country...maybe that's because I live in a metro and lots of people keep moving in and out.
@Lakota12 (42600)
• United States
4 Mar 08
come to think of it no I havent I didnt see a male teacher till I got to the 7th grade. maybe men cant handle the little ones
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@vanities (11395)
• Davao, Philippines
6 Mar 08
nope i havent known one i guess...but im sure a male teacher for kindergarten could be more effective especially the married ones..
@secretbear (19448)
• Philippines
8 Mar 08
now that you mentioned it, i haven't seen any male kindergarten teachers too. everyone of them that i met or saw was a female. even my kindergarten teacher was a female. i think its because female teachers deal better with little kids. most women have a long line of patience that is badly needed when dealing with a child. ^__^
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@Pose123 (21635)
• Canada
5 Mar 08
Hi SViswan, I believe young children relate better to women, and that's why Kindergarten teachers are usually women. Having said that I know that their are men who can do an equally good job. Blessings.
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@crazed_moma (1054)
• United States
5 Mar 08
I think almost all of the teachers in my kids' school are female. The only male I've seen (other than the principal) is one of the PE teachers!
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@SViswan (12051)
• India
6 Mar 08
lol..same here...except that the Principal is a woman too.
@skinnychick (6905)
• United States
7 Mar 08
Interesting, come to think of it I know plenty of male teachers but none who teach kindergarten..I'm not sure men would have the patience for kids that young but I'm sure there are some out there who do. I have never met one myself though.
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