Declawing

@mamasan34 (6521)
United States
March 7, 2008 8:17am CST
What do you think of declawing? I am taking my cat in to be spayed and declawed. I know I am going to get flack about it, but I don't really have any other alternatives. She is scratching my daughter to bits and myself as well. My daughter has scars on her arms from where the cat has scratched her several times. People at school thought she was cutting herself. Not to mention the damage she has done to my couch and my antique chair and other wood furniture. I have tried getting her nails trimmed frequently and those tips you put on and nothing is working. This is my last resort. I love her so much, and my only other option is to give her up and I just can't do that. So, what do you guys think?
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@pyewacket (44036)
• United States
7 Mar 08
Please DO NOT declaw your cat! I did a discussion about this and even wrote an article and is with Associated Content about declawing...there are so many other alternatives to declawing, indcluding getting "SoftPaws" which are caps one places over the cat's claws. Declawing isn't just removing the claw but the first joint of each toes...think of it this way...it would be if someone amputated your fingers up to the first joint of each finger...that's what declawing is...mutilation of the toes of a cats feet--there even severe personality changes with a cat after declawing including aggression since a cat no longer has their defense mechanism--their claws http://www.mylot.com/w/discussions/1259346.aspx And here's my article I wrote http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/363642/the_declawing_of_cats_the_real_truth.html
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@mamasan34 (6521)
• United States
9 Mar 08
I sincerely thank both of you for your concern for the safety of my cat. Reading your replies make me feel like a bad pet owner honestly. I am almost at the point of giving her up because of it. I really don't want to, but maybe she will be in a better home where scratching children and adults is acceptable. I am sorry ladies, but as much as I love my cat, I love my daughter 1000 times more. She has very large scratches and scars on her arm and I do have scars on my own body. I know Cookie isn't mean, but she is far too playful at times and it ends up injuring us in the process. The tips didn't work, the scratching posts didn't work, other than putting her in the laundry room 24 hours a day, what kind of life is that for her just to keep her claws?
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@pyewacket (44036)
• United States
9 Mar 08
May I ask you a question and I hope you won't be insulted by this. Does or has your daughter teased the cat a lot??...I mean I have no idea how old your daughter is--the reason I ask is because I've had cats since I was five years old. Yes, I've had my share of cat scratches mainly as an accident on the cat's part, such as maybe jumping on my lap and the cat not being too graceful in doing so and thus the scratch on my leg or some area....But I've never been scratched viciously by a cat in all the 47 some odd years I've had cats. Of course it could be that since you say you need the cat spayed?? Sometimes cats will be a little more aggressive before they are fixed..but I still can't help wonder if maybe your daughter is teasing the cat too much so not only taking it out on your daughter but you too...animals won't be aggressive and scratch without a reason...like I said hope you don't take this the wrong way...but after 47 years of having cats, think I know a little about the "psychology" of cat behavior
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@pyewacket (44036)
• United States
9 Mar 08
Oh. and as a PS..as far as furniture....I've had my share of furniture being scratched and clawed up....do I care? No, furniture can be replaced..my two current cats never scratch or claw up the furniture, if they did it really wouldn't be an issue with me..their life and worth is musch more important than any furniture anyday
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@polachicago (19073)
• United States
7 Mar 08
soft paws - color soft paws
I use Soft paws on my cat. She doesn't mind. Declawing is very bad, it is an amputation. Please read this: http://www.declawing.com/Link to soft paws: http://www.softpaws.com/ I am vary happy with soft paws application to my cat's nails. HUGS
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@polachicago (19073)
• United States
7 Mar 08
sorry, first link again: http://www.declawing.com/
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@mamasan34 (6521)
• United States
9 Mar 08
I have heard of this brand. I will take this into consideration.
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@asgtswife04 (2482)
• United States
7 Mar 08
As long as the cat isn't gonna be let outdoors, i think declawing them is totally fine. it saves you, your daughter, and your furniture from being completely tore up. God bless
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• United States
7 Mar 08
very true. sorry your having to do that girl, but i know your doing what is best for you and your daughter and that is really important. talk to you later. im me when you get on tonight. bye girl
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@pyewacket (44036)
• United States
7 Mar 08
It doesn't matter whether a cat is an indoor or outdoor cat...declawing is a mutilation of the toes of a cat and many cats become even more aggressive after declawing...Read my article I wrote for AC about this http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/363642/the_declawing_of_cats_the_real_truth.html
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• United States
7 Mar 08
Many a cat has survived a declawing and i'm sorry but if it came to me and my children or the cat, it would either be declawed or gotten rid of. she doesn't wanna get rid of the cat, therefore the claws have to go. i've seen many cats that didn't have claws that were just fine. she knew she would get flack from people, but sometimes people need to understand the situation in the home before coming down on her. i think that what she is doing is right for her and her daughter. she's attached to the cat and doesn't wanna get rid of him. i think she's making a wise choice and the cat will be just fine. God bless
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@gabs8513 (48715)
• United Kingdom
7 Mar 08
Well I have to be honest I do not agree to that as the Cats need their Claws to defend themselves But I will not give you any Flack about it as you seem to have a good reason I don't understand though why your Cat is going for your Daughter like I really don't She is your Cat and you do what you think is right for your Daughter and for your Cat Sweetie
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@mamasan34 (6521)
• United States
9 Mar 08
Thanks Gabs. I don't understand why she wants to scratch my daughter either. She nips at me too, but it isn't hard or anything. I think she is playing. We are very good to her and give her lots of love and when she doesn't want to be bothered we let her come to us. I don't understand it myself!
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@gabs8513 (48715)
• United Kingdom
9 Mar 08
Sweetie she is probably getting carried away when she wants to play or when she is showing her Affection some Cats do that
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@carolbee (16241)
• United States
7 Mar 08
One of our daughter's gave us her cat and dog several years ago because she couldn't take them with her when she moved. We took them and the cat already had been declawed and spayed when she left them with us. I would recommend this if you have an inside cat. Our cat has never been outside. She doesn't destroy our furniture and doesn't have the chance to scratch any of us. The cat is happy and we are happy. This is the first cat we've ever owned and she's been a fantastic pet. It's my opinion that an outside cat needs their claws to defend themselves but an inside cat, no.
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@mamasan34 (6521)
• United States
9 Mar 08
I have heard both good and bad stories about declawing in my research. I feel really bad about having to consider the procedure but I am at my wits end. She is strictly indoor and doesn't even want to go outside. I tried to let her out once, and she just sat there at the door and decided it wasn't for her and went back to playing with her toys. She seems quite content to being in the house. THanks for your thoughts!
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@carolbee (16241)
• United States
10 Mar 08
Thanks so much for the br. Good luck with your cat.
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@dloveli (4369)
• United States
8 Mar 08
I do understand why you are doing it. I just wonder if it is in the best interest of the cat. They use their claws as a means to climb and groom themselves. Couldnt you just have nails clipped. I have my cats nails done and she doesnt scratch as much. You know your animal best. If he/she is a climber and active, she/he may be lost without them. Its difficult to decide due to the fact the claws are used in day to day life of a cat. Talk to your vet. Just remember that as any thing else, its a business. When I take my animals to the vet they always try to guilt trip me about something. WHen I say I cant afford it they try to say it is in the cat/dogs best interest. Untrue. Do what you can afford. Declawing isnt a necessity. So it is totally your decision and will not hurt the cat if you decide against it. I would try the clipping first. Good luck. dl
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@mamasan34 (6521)
• United States
9 Mar 08
I understand what you are saying. I have the money to do the procedure, but I am at the point where I have to decide to do the procedure or take her to the animal shelter. She scratches us on a daily basis. We thought she would grow out of it but she hasn't, she is only getting worse.
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@Loen210 (1533)
• United States
10 Mar 08
Oh gosh, I hope the others have convinced you NOT to get your poor cat declawed. It is not your cat's fault that she scratched you and your daughter. It is their instinct. And especially if she is still young!! My forever beloved cat, who passed away a few years ago, when he was a kitten... He was the cutest, sweetest little thing in th eworld, but he had scary little tantrums, where he'd be purring and then suddenly lunge at you, making me bleed all over the place. I'd get scars an dhe was just mean. Then I was a kid. But also sometimes when i played wiht her, she would miss or get too into playing. Other times just for no reason turn on me. Another of my cats who never ever meant to scratch would give me scars also accidentally. But we never punished them like that. And I hope you've read up on how terrible and abusive it is to declaw them. It's as if de-fingering a human, sadly. But anyway, as my dear cats grew older, they never ever tried to scratch me. And laugh or don't, after become a young adult, I started mourning my, ha ha, nostalgic scars. They actually started fading away after over a decade. I was so upset. But anyway, same as children, it takes some time for them to get used to things and behaving correctly. Cats can get frightened easily, and especially by young ones. Take Care!
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@mamasan34 (6521)
• United States
17 Apr 08
Yes, the others have convinced me to not get Cookie declawed. I just couldn't do it after I had read other's testimonials and doing researcch on my own. Thanks for responding!
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@Loen210 (1533)
• United States
17 Apr 08
Thank you. And you may be spreading that word to others in the future. Good for you on also researching and hearing from others before making any decision. Wishing you many furry, happy days and years to come!
@leeesa (885)
• United States
8 Mar 08
There are little nail covers you can buy that you glue on. They don't hurt the cat and keeps them from scratching. They come in different sizes and you can get them at most pet stores.
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@mamasan34 (6521)
• United States
9 Mar 08
I did say that I tried those in my original post. She didn't like them. She tried chewing them off.
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@Galena (9123)
24 Mar 08
I'm sure she'd like having part of her foot amputated less.
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@jillbeth (2711)
• United States
7 Mar 08
Please don't declaw her! Most people don't realize that the procedure removes the last joint of the cat's toe, kind of like having the last section of your finger cut off. It can affect the cat's balancing and walking ability, and make a very unhappy cat. And they can wear callouses on their pads, since it won't stop the clawing action, that can be as hard on your furniture as her claws are now. Have you tried training her to a scratching post? They are easy to make out of scrap wood and carpeting, or you can buy them at the pet store. I worry about her scratching people, though, I hope she isn't a mean cat, but just overly playful!
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@mamasan34 (6521)
• United States
9 Mar 08
I realize what the declawing procedure involves. I did the research. I have tried the tips and she wasn't too happy with those at all. I have trained her on scratching posts, but she will not use them, she prefers the furniture and the couch for some reason. This is my last resort, other than giving her up for adoption. I don't want to do that at all. I really respect your opinion. You seem very informed. Thanks and I will do some more thinking on it.
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@mamasan34 (6521)
• United States
17 Apr 08
Wow Moopile, your about as rude as they come. If you would have done your homework, you would have noticed that I decided against the declawing procedure, however you just took it upon yourself to judge someone off the cuff. So, shame on you.
• United States
9 Mar 08
With her being an indoor only cat getting her declawed is perfectly fine. Any procedure you do on animals or people for that matter, can cause damage. My mother-in-law has nine cats. All of which stay inside and are all declawed. They are all loving cats and don't seem to be bothered by not having their claws. A cat only needs their claws if they are outside cats. There is nothing wrong with you having your cat declawed. You are doing what is best for your family and the cat given the situation. I think people should stop and think about what they are saying before they critisize you. God Bless!
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@mamasan34 (6521)
• United States
9 Mar 08
Thanks for the support. I appreciate it. I am sure everyone is just concerned about my cat and want the best for it. Sometimes people let their passion get the best of them. Thanks again!
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@carlaabt (3505)
• United States
8 Mar 08
I don't like it that so many people routinely declaw their cats, but sometimes it's the only thing that works. Since you seem to have tried everything else, it really might be the only thing left that you can do. Our cat is declawed. She is the first cat I've ever really owned (we had some strays as a kid that we fed, but they weren't really ours). We got her while I was pregnant, and I allowed my husband to get her declawed. I didn't even know what all it entailed. Once I found out, I was horrified that we had done that to our poor little baby. She got some really bad infections from the process, and ended up returning to the vet to heal there, so they could keep medicating her paws. I will NEVER do it to another cat.
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@mamasan34 (6521)
• United States
9 Mar 08
Oh I am sorry to hear that. I appreciate your input. Thanks so much for responding. It really need to think about this.
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@mouse27 (1155)
• Canada
8 Mar 08
i think it is a bit cruel to declaw a cat i had many cats as a child and ya they scratched when they were feeling threatened but that is their defense system. on the other hand if you have tried everything else to getit to stop clawing your daughter then mayube it is time to have it declawed
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@mamasan34 (6521)
• United States
9 Mar 08
I think it is a bit cruel myself and if it weren'necessary, I wouldn't even consider it. I was hoping she would grow out of it but she is getting much worse at scratching. We won't even be doing anything. She will be laying on the bed with us or on the couch with us, just out of the doggone blue, start playing with us, then just as soon as she starts she starts scratching! It's crazy. I love her and want the best for her, but I dn't want to see my daughter bleed everyt ime she plays with her cat.
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@sherrir101 (3670)
• United States
7 Mar 08
We recently got our cat nutered and declawed. I know that it is an inhumane procedure, but it had to be done or we would have had to let the cat go. Since his declawing, Sass has become a good cat. No clawing and hissing. His temperment is totally different now. He is a totally inside cat. If he was an outside cat, I might have reconsidered for their protection.
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@mamasan34 (6521)
• United States
9 Mar 08
That was my plan as well. To have her spayed and declawed at the same time. I don't want her to go through anymore physical and emotional trauma than she has to. I truly hope this is the solution that we are looking for. I know people think I am inhumane, but how humane would I be by giving her to the humane society? As soon as I disclose that she is a scratcher and a biter they will put her down. I don't want that. So, thanks for your experience. I really appreciate it.
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@chrissieatu (1033)
• China
8 Mar 08
I had no idea of what declawing would do with the cat before, because I do not have this service in my town which may be not necessary. But after reading the responses above, I beg you not to do that. It is just cruel to the cat even without mentioning the pain. I think the cat can be trained to scratch the wood or something. That's what my cat did before. And about hurting people, you can try to warn it. Let it know it's not allowed. Cats are smart. I think they can learn these and of course feel your love to them. May things become better.
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@secretbear (19464)
• Philippines
11 Mar 08
enma ai - jigoku shoujo
who is against declawing your cat? that is a wide practice here for cat lovers because they don't want their cat to hurt people or destroy some property. even dogs are declawed. i think pet lovers should do anything to prevent their pets to be a bother to other people because not all people loves dogs or cats. its just being considerate. ^__^
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• United States
12 Mar 08
okkkkkkkkk....hmmmmmmmmm.....I'm assuming that since you are soooooooooo into declawing that you will also pull out your pet's teeth as well since biting is worse than clawing. Leaving it at that since my bp is already up and would prolly end up having a stroke if I was to pursue this arguement.
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@secretbear (19464)
• Philippines
13 Mar 08
oh so sorry. i made a mistake here. i thought declawing was just cutting the nails. its a stupid mistake. sorry. and who would ever think of removing the teeth of a pet? they wouldn't be able to eat if they don't have any teeth. are you a member of Peta?
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@Galena (9123)
24 Mar 08
declawing is not cutting the nails. it's surgically amputating the first knuckle of the toe. like cutting off your toes, or first knuckles of the hands. it's a horrific procedure, and fortunately it is illegal in the UK.
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@jazgottt (1181)
• Poland
8 Mar 08
hi mamasan34. In my opinion, declawing is the worst choice for the cat owner. I know that cats can scratch - your skin, your furniture. But didn't you know that before taking this cat to your home? Pets are not toys, but I have an impression that people treat them almost like toys:/. There are a lot of pluses and minuses of having a cat, just like having any pet. They can become sick, and an owner have to pay for their cure and medicines. They can scratch, they can spoil something. But people should think about all of that BEFORE buying them. Declawing is an amputation, I'd never do it to my cat. I hope you will also find another solution. take care, jazgottt.
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@mamasan34 (6521)
• United States
9 Mar 08
I understand that cats scratch, and nip and I completely understand that they are not toys. I am not an idiot. I take these things very seriously. This is why I posted this discussion for varying opinions before I even set up the procedure. You are classing me in a group of people that I don't feel I need to be in. I take very good care of my pets. I spent $5000 before my dog passed away last year from diabetes, a lame leg and a number of other ailments. I do not take pet care and safety lightly as you seem to think I do. I have spent a pretty penny on my cat this year as well. she has been sick a couple of times this year, I have had her vaccinations and grooming and other expenses. So, please don't preach to me about how I should have thought about it before I "bought" this cat. First of all I didn't buy this cat. I took this cat into my home after it had been abandoned by it's owner.
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@jazgottt (1181)
• Poland
9 Mar 08
I'm sorry if what I said sounds unpleasantly. It was not my intention. It is my point of view about declawing. I am not classing you in any group. To buy or to adopt an animal - I don't see many diffrences. I had a lot of cats, some of them were from my gradmother, some of them were homeless cats and I gave them a home. I treat them all the same way. I wish declawing someday would become illicit. If there won't be such solution like declawing, people won't consider it as solution. I'm sure declawing isn't the worst thing a human can do to his pet. Cat will survive that procedure, as a cripple, but will survive. I'd never do this to my cat, but of course Mamasan, you can do it and I wont't call you inhumane. It's your life, your decision, I respect it, even if in my opinion it isn't good decision. We share here our opinions, give some advices. I hope you will find a solution other than declawing. And I don't judge you. I hope there is a chance to solve that problem the way, that would be good both for you and your cat. jazgottt
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@mamasan34 (6521)
• United States
12 Mar 08
jazgott, I sounded pretty harsh didn't I. I didn't mean to at all. I love getting advice and opinions from everyone, even if they don't jive with my own. I am leaning more towards not declawing. The more I think about it I don't know that I can do that to my little girl. She is such a cutie and a good cat. I am going to try some tips that I have learned on here and see how that goes first. I am sure there has to be a solution. I thank you so much for your thoughts.
@Loen210 (1533)
• United States
10 Mar 08
Also, for scratching furniture, yes we have scratched sofas, which we do not like. But do youhave plenty of scratching posts or climbers around the house. Hope you also have lots of fun cat toys. If we were in a big empty place, that has nothing except for maybe bowls of cat food everwhere, and you were in tehre all the time, I think I'd go a bit crazy and start throwing the food all over making a mess. But they have to sharpen and shave down their claws. If it is getting bad, you should really just simply go to the pet stores, adn purchase some of the furniture protectors or the spray that you put onto the furniture. it has odors that have no effect or even smell for us, often, but cats hate, adn it sends them away. I know they also are known not to like the smell of citrus. You may have to see waht works best for your individual cat though.
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@tessah (6621)
• United States
24 Mar 08
i personally have always opposed declawing a cat, it leaves them rather defenseless if they ever wind up outside, BUT, if it comes down to the well-being and safety of your child.. get her declawed. yer children come first and youve no reason whatsoever to feel guilty about that at all,nor should anyone give you grief over you trying to be a good parent. ignore those thatd scream animal cruelty, you know youre down to last resort and are doing whats best.
@tessah (6621)
• United States
17 Apr 08
not all animals respect their own boundaries, regardless of how a child is "trained". if the choice is down to an animal vs a child.. the child wins, hands down, and if they dont.. the person shouldnt even HAVE kids. she has done al she can to prevent injury to her child.. and has already stated this is a last resort situation. and is fully within her rights and justification to take the action shes chosen.
@tessah (6621)
• United States
17 Apr 08
so basically.. if yer child doesnt adhere to your training.. and loses their face.. you consider it their fault, and not yer own. nice.. my deepest condolences to your children.
@mtdewgurl74 (18118)
• United States
24 Mar 08
Wow, I didn't know it was so bad. I am so glad my cat never really uses her claws, thankfully. But as much as I hate declawing it might be best, because cats scratches can cause a serious infection. I have heard of cat scratch fever also. Well it has been three weeks ago, sorry just now getting to this in my email but had so many, I guess it wasn't so wise to turn all the friends on had to turn a bunch off. Are there such a thing as cat booties that won't let the claws protrude? Well, I know you would only do what is best and for you and your familys health I guess declawing is best at this point unless the vet has a idea.
@saundyl (9690)
• Canada
17 Apr 08
Some people get infections no matter what is put on a cut or injury...its a matter of components lacking in the blood..not a lack of washing and using preventative products.
@mtdewgurl74 (18118)
• United States
22 Apr 08
Thanks for the informations and tips. I have been bitten more times then I would have wanted especially since I bathe my cat and she hates it alot. So I usually will end up with a scratch or bite but she never really ever uses her claws otherwise. She is a even tempered cat(unless you want to douse her with water.)Have a good day and happy posting.
@jsmith12 (438)
• Canada
10 Mar 08
Don't do it. Seriously try everything else first. We had one of our cats declawed and it nearly killed him. See, we had a male cat, who was normally indoors only. Our neighbors 3 houses down had a cat that was outdoors almost 24/7. (Why they had said cat I STILL don't know as the thing was ALWAYS out.) Any rate, our cat did get out a few times without us knowing. First few times he had claws, and as males will be males, he and the neighbor's cat fought. Now even though both cats more then likely scratched him, since they were fighting and all, the neighbor said he was going to sue us unless our cat was declawed. My father, not realizing that it was impossible to prove WHICH cat injured the idiot, agreed. Well, cats will be cats, and he managed to escape outside again. Even though we were VERY careful about it. The neighborhood bully showed up, and nearly killed him because our cat could not defend himself. He spent several days at the vet, with a HUGE infection. The vet had to lace it, and he had to stay for observations. Vet said a little lower, and he'd have lost an eye, and possibly his life.
@Loen210 (1533)
• United States
17 Apr 08
Hi JS, Just wondering, how is your cat doing now? Poor guy, with everything he went through. And I hope that neighbor moved away, so you don't have to deal with him. :o( Hope you and your cat are doing well! :o)