Should pregnant women be considered "handicapped" for handicap parking?

@coffeebreak (17798)
United States
March 22, 2008 9:12pm CST
What do you all think about the possible new (not sure if it is country wide or just california) but they are considering making it "law" that pregnant women are eligble for handicap parking. Don't know the details, and I really dont' think it should be. I was pregnant twice and did just fine without it, as have millions before me and since me! A mother of 3 is more "handicapped" than a pregnant one! And how will they do the expiration issue - good for 60 days after birth and then what - only way they'd get caught if law enforcement actually checked the date on the placart to see the expiration but then again, I wouldn't think the placarts would be made individually per person with specific dates on them. I don't think it is necessary and to easy to be abused. What do you all think?
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32 responses
• United States
23 Mar 08
at some of the malls in my area have a Expected Mother parking. It is right next to the handicapped parking.I think it is a great idea. You never know when the baby will decide it's time so I rather they have their own parking.The problem is that there are more mothers to be than parking spots so you may still have mothers to be parked far away.
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@coffeebreak (17798)
• United States
23 Mar 08
If a woman is that close to being due that she needs close parking while she shops incase she goes into labor, maybe she should be closer to home.
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• United States
23 Mar 08
The mall I first saw the parking spots is walking distance from my home. I could see a mother to be going there if she lived in my apartment complex. It is real close to home. And we are about 5-6 minutes from the hospital.
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@whiteheron (4222)
• United States
23 Mar 08
Here in California, I have seen in some shopping malls a section of parking expressly reserved for pregnant women in addition to the handicapped parking... Perhaps that might be a good option. It is clear that a pregnant woman, especially one close to term, might need to be parked closer to business establishments than most other people but might not need the curb cuts, ramps,and extra wide spaces for the unloading of wheelchairs, etc. that are provided to those who are physically challenged. I would assume that the physicians would be told only to grant the permit to park in these parking places if needed in the later terms or if there is a problem with the pregnancy, in the earlier terms. And perhaps it should be re-evaluated as the physicians already have to review state disability forms often on a monthly basis to see whether they are still needed. I do not think it is a bad idea at all.
@coffeebreak (17798)
• United States
23 Mar 08
But what about people that are a large as a pregnant woman? They ahve a hard time walking. PEople with 3 or more kids - they only have two hands and have to accomodate three bodies...where does it end? There are all kinds of problems out there that could be said deserving of handicap parking or special close up parking. What about those that are in a hurry and only have a few minutes - they coud be in and out in the time it takes to park way out and walk in - the stores could make more money catering to the fast paced people. What about all those kids playing around as tey walk with mom through the parking lot to their car - I've had to stop probably every time Im in a parking lot to allow kids to be corralled by mom to the cart. I've seen kids dart out in front of cars all the time. There are so many reasons speciality parking could apply to, and to single out pregnant women, I dont' think is fair. i was one of them too! And if they are so close to term/delivery, maybe they shouldn't be at the store in the first place, send husband or friend, but if just parking close while she spends hour or so walking and standing in the store is going to make her go into labor, she shouldn't be there in the first place.
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@drannhh (15219)
• United States
23 Mar 08
Your point that a mother of 3 is probably more "handicapped" than one who is expecting her first child seems pretty logical to me, but what about a mother of 3 who is also expecting? Good question, and to be sure one I don't know the answer for. It seems to me though that there should be short-term places to park everywhere and that they should double as disabled parking so that qualifying people could stay there longer. I agree that there is great potential for abuse, and that many people who truly are handicapped for a short time do not have the stamina to fight the system for the necessary paperwork. I know a guy who was close to 80 years old and still working full-time and he was also a verified disabled veteran from World War II. When he had a sudden, and fortunately temporary illness. He needed the handicapped placard to park closer to his apartment in his own complex as he had lots of stuff he had to carry back and forth to work. The complex had a ridiculous policy that "guests" could park on the curb, but "residents" had to go several blocks away to their own carports to park unless they had disabled placards. As he was a neighbor we took him to the VA to help him get his disabled placard and did all the paperwork for the DMV. Do you know he didn't get any response on it for 6 months, even though we kept calling and writing, and when the response came he was denied! Another neighbor had a placard and parked on the curb even though there was absolutely nothing wrong with him, except, if you asked his ex-wife, a definite case of laziness. Go figure!
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@coffeebreak (17798)
• United States
23 Mar 08
That is so wrong. He deserves it and can't get it, but here a woman is just pregnant and she gets special treatment. This is what makes me mad. IT is so hard for someone that deserves it to get the help, but those that just did nothing, get it.
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@cortjo73 (6498)
• United States
23 Mar 08
I haven't heard of them doing anything like that in GA yet but, they do have some places where there is front row parking with a sign that says "Expectant Mommy's" or, like at BJ's which is like Costco or Sam's club, there are spaces with signs that say "For Members with Infants". I actually saw a woman with a girl who was roughly about 6 years old get out of her car with her walking talking 6 year old. She didn't appear to be pregnant, nor did she have an infant in her arms. So, yes...I can see how the handicapped rule would be abused. If a woman whose child is 6 years past infancy thinks it is ok to use the "For Members with Infants" space, then I have no doubt that a woman who is way past pregnant might abuse the handicapped rule. Oh, and I don't think that a pregnant woman is anymore handicapped than I am. Perhaps she is uncomfortable but, I get migraines, I have hypogycemia, my ankles are bad, my feet are so flat that I sometimes can't distinguish them from paper, I have scoliosis, neck and back pain and am not very muscular. Oh, and I had open-heart surgery when I was 5 years old and I still have a leaky valve and a hear murmer. Does that make my handicapped? None of this was my choice. Why is a woman who is pregnant, likely by choice, anymore handicapped than me. BTW...I am a woman so, I am not woman bashing! I just don't think that I could handle thinking of myself as handicapped if I got pregnant...which I want to be! Thank you for sharing you thoughts on this! It was a thought provoking question!
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@coffeebreak (17798)
• United States
23 Mar 08
You are preaching to the choir cortjo! I mean, if pregnant makes you handicap, what about obese people? I am sure they'd like to not have to walk as far. And what about older folks, that walk slower - that parking lot is a long way when you are 90 and taking small steps. Thing is, where does it stop? There are all kinds of reasons and all kinds of people to fill those reasons of not walking far...good grief...a healthy person I'd bet if given the choise would rather park closer to the store! No body likes walking parking lots!
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@cortjo73 (6498)
• United States
23 Mar 08
I thought the same thing about obese people. I just would feel insulted if I were considered handicapped because I was carrying another human being in my body. I have also heard people say on tv, "she is perfectly healthy other than the fact that she is pregnant". I get what they are saying but, it just annoys me that people seem to think that being pregnant is like an illness or a handicap. It isn't! Ugh! LOL! Oh, and don't get me wrong. I am not trying to say that being handicapped is something to be ashamed of. I just don't like the thought of people putting pregnant women into a separate group from those of us who have fully functioning legs or faculties. And, I agree. There are days that I really would like to be up close and personal to the front door at a store. For example, when it is raining really hard, it is overly windy, really cold or, I am just really tired and want to get in and out of the store as soon and as fast as possible! And, I have seen elderly who walk really slowly who, for whatever reason, don't qualify for handicapped parking. What about them? You are going to tell me that a pregnant woman has more of a right to a handicapped space than the 90 year old man who walks one step ever 3 seconds because his body can't move any faster for whatever reason? Wrong! But, I digress! LOL! Oh...and any doctor will tell a pregant woman that exercise is healthy for her and the baby. They are certainly not told to stay as still as possible and sit around as much as they can until the baby is born. No doctor will say that walking a little further across a parking lot is going to harm to her and the baby. Except for when bed rest is ordered because of some complication, women are encouraged to, within reason, go about their daily lives the same way they did before pregnancy. They even tell them to continue their exercise routines. So, why are they suddenly eligible for handicapped parking? LOL! I don't get it!
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@cortjo73 (6498)
• United States
6 Jun 08
Thank you so much for the best response! It is really appreciated!
@cadri4n (45)
• United States
23 Mar 08
I agree, here in Illinois we do have some places that offer the expecting mothers especial parking. I was pregnant before and no one gave me special attention! In fact if I remember correctly walking was encouraged during preganancy. It's ridiculous really. Love the mother of 3 point. I know it's more difficul to walk around with a newborn than it is with a fetus.
@coffeebreak (17798)
• United States
23 Mar 08
Women have been pregnant since the dawn of time, why now is it so hard to walk while pregnant! And yes, they do encourage walking while pregnant. Closer you are to your due date, the more you should stay closer to home, not Walmart!
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• United States
23 Mar 08
I think your right in a lot of ways. A woman has it rough if she's pregnant or already has kids. It's just not easy esp with so many rude people out there in a hurry to get nowhere! So I will say that I think it would be OK for girls who are pregnant to be allowed to use handicap parking JUST untill they have the baby. After you have the baby you got to do what you have to do just like any other mom!
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@coffeebreak (17798)
• United States
23 Mar 08
But all those other moms didn't get handicap parking and quite frankly, a mom of 3 or more has it harder than one pregnant. She only has 2 hands...where do the extra kids hang on? How many times have you been driving a parkinglot and looking for a space and had kids dart out in front of you or the mom trying to get them all in the car all around moving cars and as they are all walking to their car they are holding hands (hopefully) and spread clear out into the isle holding up cars driving through looking for spots? Don't think there is a time I have been in a lot and have not had to stop specially for kids...seems that giving those moms up close parking would be better - keeps the kids out of the danger of being hit by cars...
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@srhelmer (7029)
• Beaver Dam, Wisconsin
23 Mar 08
While an interesting idea, I think it's stretching things a bit too far too considering I already see people with handicap parking stickers get out of their cars and JOG into the store. However, I have seen stores voluntarily put in parking just for pregnant women.
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@coffeebreak (17798)
• United States
23 Mar 08
Yeah, the store owners can do that on their property. I've seen it. That is probably where this law derived from. Thing is, other "healthy" people spend as much money at the store as a pregnant woman does...where are the benefits to them? Could make them feel like taking their business elsewhere - especially if they don't want to be around kids- and here they all are....
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@starr4all (2863)
23 Mar 08
I don't think they should use handicapped parking space, but a lot of places will have a spot designated for pregnant women. For my first two kids there weren't any available and I don't remember thinking about it. But this last pregnancy was really harder than the other two. Worse walking around and plus getting migraines constantly. Luckily enough the two stores I would frequent (commissary and bx) had maternity parking. Most days I had my other two boys with me (6 and 3) so it was hard. I know most people say that oh suck it up. People have been doing it for centuries. But not all pregnancies are a like. I discovered that.
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@coffeebreak (17798)
• United States
23 Mar 08
But how does parking closer so you only have to walk a few steps to get into the store benefit your "handicap" problem, when you will be walking for an hour or so while in the store shopping? That's the problem with this. I am all for helping those that need it, but at the same time, help those that need it.
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@ravinskye (8237)
• United States
23 Mar 08
I think you are right. I'm a mother of 3 and i sure could use a closer parking space. What some of the places in my area have is "pregnant mother" parking spaces. This is in addition to the handicap parking spaces. But even that is going to be abused, who is going to check if the mother is actually pregnant? I don't think it will make it through to let pregnant women get handicap parking. If it does, I'm sure there will be problems with people using it when theyd on't need to, just like there are people who park in handicap spaces now that aren't handicap.
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• United States
23 Mar 08
next thing fat people would want to get this privledge..some do already as their doctor gives them a permission slip to get the handicapp tags from the states license bureau.. at work men and women would get these tags..and park in handicapp but they could go in and do an eight hour shift..walking,,etc etc working.. if pregnant women did this in Michigan then the FAT people would all get the handicap spaces too...if they are really in the family way have someone drop them off in front of the store and then park the car in the regular places.
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@coffeebreak (17798)
• United States
23 Mar 08
Exactly. Where does it stop? I am all for helping people, but something like this is just taking advantage.
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• United States
23 Mar 08
I do not know about having handicap. Maybe have reserved parking for pregnant women. Why claim something that you know you are not. There is power in the tongue, so why act crazy like that. This is my point of view. Thats like saying I'm fat but I know I'm skinny.
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• United States
23 Mar 08
I don't think pregnant women should get handicapped parking. I mean, I would feel terrible if there was only one handicapped parking spot left and I (hypothetically, a pregnant woman) managed to beat out a quadriplegic person, or spmeone who truly needed the space--even if I was 9 months pregnant! And, I think some women would consider it an insult to be called handicapped when they are carrying a child. When I was pregnant with my first child, and getting ready to take maternity leave from work, I remember being taken aback because I was going on "disability" leave! I was not disabled--I was repopulating the Earth! I think sometimes we get our priorities mixed up.
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@coffeebreak (17798)
• United States
23 Mar 08
The words are so vague and taken advantage of. Disabled just means you can't do something.How much disabled should be the criteria. I have had two kids and was there with my first grand child, and in case others don't know - that is HARD work and if you are disabled to where you can't walk a few steps to Walmart, you'd better not get pregnant!
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@leloo2 (114)
• Romania
23 Mar 08
i think it's silly this new "law" i mean a pregnant woman i don't think that needs an handicapped parking place
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• United States
23 Mar 08
I'm not sure if I agree with the blanket law covering "all" pregnant women, but I do agree that it needs to be addressed on a case-by-case basis. When I was pregnant, I happened to be high-risk and couldn't walk more than a short distance before absolutely having to sit down. I never took advantage of any handicap spots, but would have welcomed a designated space, had it been available at the time.
@coffeebreak (17798)
• United States
23 Mar 08
I understand what you say, but the thing is....if it is to much to walk from the parking lot to the store front door - what are you going to do once in the store? Most stores, you spend an hour - buy the time you do your shopping, stand in line, and pay. So if it is so hard to walk the distance, why isn't it hard to walk the store?
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• United States
23 Mar 08
This is one of those cases where "you had to have been there". In my part of the country, at the time it didn't take "an hour" to do what you needed to do. If planned, I could be in and out in 20 minutes.
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@polachicago (18716)
• United States
24 Mar 08
parking - preferred parking
I think this is very good idea. Some girls have problem walking. I would think that I am willing to see rather section for expecting mothers and mothers with multiple children than "handicapped".
@polachicago (18716)
• United States
24 Mar 08
Good arguments. I am not pregnant and I am not planning to be. Maybe I just feel sorry for those who are pregnant. My friend has 4 kids and I know how hard it is for her to go around.....but...I also saw perfectly healthy and walking guy parking on handicap parking.....
@coffeebreak (17798)
• United States
24 Mar 08
If they have that hard a time walking from the car to the store, what are they going to do once IN the store!! If it is so hard, they should get a wheel chair or have someone else do the shopping or shop online and have it delievered. Other thing is, health problems notwithstanding, if a woman can't walk from the car to the store with the baby in her belly, Lord have mercy on that baby as what is that mother going to do once its born! Again, health problems notwithstanding, carrying and having hte baby are the easy parts! ITs' the 18 years that come after that that are the hard parts and where she'll need handicap parking help!
@sid556 (30960)
• United States
7 Jul 08
Walking is very good for you when you are pregnant so i'd say that in most cases, this would be a ridiculous law. There are women, however, who while pregnant have special circumstances where they are actually not supposed to do much excercise. I would say that those with a doctor's note stating a legitimate cause actually probably do qualify for the handicapped spaces. I don't believe that it would be abused because unless the woman is experiencing a difficult pregnancy, most doctors would want their patients to walk.
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@sid556 (30960)
• United States
7 Jul 08
Actually, you are exactly right. I guess I was not looking at it as deeply as you but that makes 100% sense. truthfully, if she is at such a risk that she can't safely walk across the parking lot, she probably should not even be driving. I had a troubled pregnancy and i walked everywhere regardless. In the end when the baby was born a bit premature, the doctor commented that my good physical condition was on my side... made the delivery easier and also my baby was very healthy even tho a bit small. I take back my original response on this one. You've convinced me that I was wrong.
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@coffeebreak (17798)
• United States
7 Jul 08
I love kids and they need healthy moms! And when I read that most doctors are against this law, I knew there was more to it! Probably just a politician trying to buy some votes!
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@coffeebreak (17798)
• United States
7 Jul 08
Yes, doctors do recommend walking. Plus, if the woman can walk for the hours that she will be in the store - how is a few steps closer going to help much? If they are that critical condition, they should maybe think twice about how much activity they are doing. Have someone drive them and drop them right at the front door! That's be the best answer! I also heard while watching news, that most doctors are against this. They want the women to walk. It is good for them. If there are problems, not walking a few steps isn't going to help them
@bfarrier1 (2082)
• United States
7 Jul 08
Since this is 4 months old it may already be a law but I agree with you and it shouldnt be made a law.Doctors say that it is good to walk.A mother with 3 children is more hadicapped than a pregnant woman. Have a great evening.
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@coffeebreak (17798)
• United States
7 Jul 08
It didn't pass at least out here in Calif. And you bet! A mother of three is a whole lot more "handicapped" than a pregnant woman! All she has to carry is a few pounds at her belly.... a mom of three - there's one on the hip, one on each hand, a diaper bag, purse and a few stuffed "gotta have" stuffed animals and all that is all connected to her...Yeah, been there done that! Sure would have liked speciality parking during those times!
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@bfarrier1 (2082)
• United States
7 Jul 08
I hear you there I had three little ones to take with me where ever I went and it did get pretty rough somedays and I would have loved not to have to park a mile from the store.
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@Bluepatch (2476)
• Trinidad And Tobago
7 Jul 08
They are not permanently handicapped, they are temporarily handicapped because they can't do things the way other people can. It does sound like a put-down, saying that, but physically its true. So, yes, they should be allowed to use the easier places to move around in.
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@sid556 (30960)
• United States
7 Jul 08
I have to agree with coffeebreak on this one. I worked right up until I went into labor with my kids and I was up and about within minutes afterwards. when I was 7 months along with my last child my boss wanted to cut and change my hours and I argued with her. I needed the money to provide for my other kids....I was not disabled.
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@coffeebreak (17798)
• United States
7 Jul 08
But they are not handicapped at all -everything still works as usual. look at what they will be going through on delivery day! And trust me... carrying inside you is a whole lot easier than having them hanging off your hip or one on your hip and another at your hand, while carrying purse, diaper bag and whatever else. Talk about needing help!
• United States
6 Jul 08
I dont think that women whom are pregnat should have hadicap parking stickers. They should do what Meijers does here in michigan. They have special parking for expecting mothers. The parking space has a sign in front of it like the hadicap parking does. But, instead of saying hadicap it says expecting mothers.
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@coffeebreak (17798)
• United States
7 Jul 08
What's the difference? Same issue, different words.
• United States
16 Jul 08
Pregnancy is not a disability.
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@coffeebreak (17798)
• United States
17 Jul 08
Most certainly is not!