OJ Simpson Found Guilty....Do You Think He Was Given A Fair Verdict?

OJ Simpson Mugshot - Exactly what the photo subject line states...
Turkey
October 4, 2008 8:21am CST
I'm not a big fan of OJ Simpson, don't get me wrong and I certainly believe that he should have never taken it into his own hands and tried to catch the theifs that stole his personal possessions, himself. However, I can't help but think that he was given a guilty verdict because perhaps some people may have felt that that is what he should have been given at his last trial. I may be wrong but this is just my personal opinion on the recent OJ Simpson trial. I just don't see why he should get LIFE in prison. These guys stole from him and though I admit that he should get some time, definitely, I just don't think that life in prison is a fair judgement for the crime that he commited. It just seems like they're giving him what he didn't seem to get in his last trial. There are a lot of people who feel that OJ should have gotten life in prison in his last trial. They feel like he did kill his wife. My husband says that all the evidence in his last case, without a doubt, shows that HE DIDN'T kill his wife. Honestly, I didn't follow either trial really and I'm just going on the tidbits that I have gotten here and there from the news. However, I do feel that the verdict that he was given this time does not fit THIS CRIME and I'm not speaking on behalf of any others that he may have committed, though I do think that the verdict that he received in this trial, had a lot to do with the one that he received in his previous trial. That's just my opinion but I want to hear yours.... What do you think? Was it a fair verdict that OJ received or do you think it was based on judgements from what he should have received in his previous one? Here's the online news article that talks about the guilty verdict that OJ received: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081004/ap_on_re_us/oj_simpson
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@lvaldean (1612)
• United States
5 Oct 08
He hasn't been sentenced as yet. So we don't know what his sentence will be. But here is the issue. He committed the crime based upon the finding of a jury of his peers.....that is how it works in this country. Given his personal wealth and he really doesn't get to pull the race card, it is not relevant in this situation. He has fame, he belongs to the best country clubs, he was a football hero, he was a movie star. The race card really only works well when you are not famous or infamous. None of us were at the first trial. Do I believe he personally killed his Nicole and Ron, I don't know. Do I believe that he had something to do with their deaths, yes I always have believed that he did. He was a violent man who regularly beat his wife. He had a history of violence against the women in his life, nothing new. He got away with that violence because of who he was. His first trial divided people along racial lines, it was unfortunate that we could not see beyond the color of his skin to the character of the man. But again he was found innocent by a jury of his peers and then found responsible by another jury in the civil trial. I think the civil trial was likely more balanced. With this new trial his excuse for his behavior was that he was attempting to retrieve what what his. There are better ways to accomplish this, it is called the law. Were these items his in fact he should have called the police, he didn't. Instead he used violence to rob and kidnap. These are crimes against a person. They are violent crimes. His actions show that he has a complete disregard for the law and for others, possibly even for himself. Should he do time, yes based on the findings of the jury of his guilt he should. He should do time for the 12 crimes he was found guilty of. Can he appeal, sure he can but that appeal can't be "I am innocent" and the jury didn't judge me fairly because I am black. While he awaiting his appeal he should remain behind bars because he has the ability to flee jursidiction.
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@lvaldean (1612)
• United States
5 Oct 08
You see that is just it, everyone is ready to say that he was not treated fairly because he is a black man in America. I don't buy that. I don't buy the argument that because the jury was all white they judged him based upon his racial make-up. I would be it if he weren't famous. If he were not OJ Simpson and did not have a history, I would buy that argument. It simply doesn't hold water in these circumstances. I am not saying that prejudice and racism don't exist in America, I know that they do. I am fully aware of the extent of racism in America. I am simply saying that in this case the argument is fallacious. The jury system is what it is, this means that the pool is taken from what is available. His attorney has just as much opportunity as the District Attorney to waive members of the pool as unsuitable or suitable. If it was an all white jury than his attorney failed to provision for a suitable jury from the pool and should have worked harder to ensure a mixed jury. But again, I don't believe that this is a valid argument. Am I biased against OJ Simpson? Yes I admit that I am. I believe that he had something to do with the deaths of his wife Nicole and her friend Ron. I don't know that he personally killed them, I wasn't there. But I believe that he had something to do with there deaths, I believe he was there. I know that he beat his wife Nicole. I know that he beat other women in his life before and after Nicole. I know that he is a bully. There is plenty of proof of this. Plenty of police intervention. Plenty of hospital records. I don't like men who beat up on women. I was married to a man like this and I know what it is like to live in fear. So do I have a natural inclination to be biased againsted OJ Simpson, yes I do and it has nothing to do with him being Black and everything to do with him being a bully and a wife beater. Do I think he should serve time for the crimes he has been convicted of? Yes I do. I think just like any other convicted criminal he should serve time. He is not above the law although thus far he has been. Thus far he has flaunted the law at every turn. Thus far his celeb status has provided him with a shield. Again this is not about the color of his skin this is about the character of the man. He is not a convicted criminal and needs to be treated as such.
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• Turkey
5 Oct 08
I agree, he definitely should be punished for handling this situation the way that he did, I just don't think that life in prison is a fair verdict but then I'm no lawyer or judge but just a bystander... I too have been married to a man that mistreated me and I definitely agree that no man has the right to treat women or anyone that is weaker than them in that way, however, I also know that that has nothing to do with the current case and so, I find it irrelevant. I know I wouldn't want to be judged now for what I may have done in the past... This should have nothing to do with color and maybe in a perfect world it wouldn't but we certainly don't live in a perfect world. I don't feel like he should be treated diffrent because everyone knows him and supposedly loves him, whether it's treated fairly or unfairly, he should be treated like everyone else and thus get the same opportunities as everyone else. You're right though, his lawyer could have pushed to have more of a mixed jury, I'm not sure why he didn't but I think it was a stupid move on his part.... In any case, this is all my opinion and no one has to agree with it. I don't think for one second that OJ is an angel, not in the least but I certainly think that he should be given the same treatment and opportunities as everyone else and I think that in this trial, he was perhaps judged based on his suppose previous offense and I don't find that very fair...
• Turkey
5 Oct 08
First, I'm not one to cry prejudice because I feel that it is cried way too often these days but to say that he's not entitled to pull the race card because he's famous and liked by what I believe to be less people than you actually think, well, that's just completely bogus. Someone on here commented that his jury was an all white jury, that doesn't come about just by coincidence if you ask me. He should have been given a mixed jury, period. Now that, would have been fair.... I don't know whether or not he killed his wife. I wasn't there. I some what suspect that he may have been in on it or had help. However, he was given a "Not Guilty" verdict at that trial and I don't think that that verdict should have had anything to do with this current trial and I can't believe for a second that it didn't have anything to do with it. No way... As far as him abusing his wife, well, I just think that is completely wrong. No man should hit a women, there's no excuse for it. However, once again, I don't think that that should have anything to do with this.... All this is just my personal opinion, everyone is entitled to their own opinions and I respect your honest one. Thanks for your comment!
• United States
5 Oct 08
From a lot of reading and watching of interviews, etc., I really think he was given a fair trial. The evidence was very strong and compelling. Even if nobody on the jury had ever heard of him before, this trial and the consequest verdict stand very firmly on their own merits.
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• United States
5 Oct 08
Agreed. It's hard to imagine that anyone hasn't heard of him unless they're new to the planet. There are, however, many who are able to be objective, and let's not forget the evidence. I know how totally unfair the so-called justice system is in many cases. In this case, though the evidence was compelling.
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• Turkey
5 Oct 08
Thanks for your comment, I appreciate it but I highly doubt that there were people on that jury that hadn't heard of him. Though I'm not saying that it is impossibly, just highly unlikely in my opinion...
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• Turkey
5 Oct 08
Sorry, I meant impossible and not impossibly LOL...Man, they really need an edit button this site ha...
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@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
5 Oct 08
I did read the article, and he did storm in, and demanded the Simpson memorabilia back and if he prevented them from leaving the room, it was kidnapping. And since some of those were collectors, it could have been that they thought they had gotten them legitimately. Also the way he acts also determines the sentence. If he had just asked nicely, or if he had called the police and had them come up with him and he had identified the stuff, he would have not been convicted. But he took the law in his own hands, he was acting as a vigilante and possibly using force or causing the other men to be afraid of him. Also the article says he was toxic, and to me that means that he is a danger to others. He possibly felt he could do no wrong and had taken many chances that normally others would not have. Yes the verdict of innocence when he was guilty of killing his wife, but no one was getting back at him for that, it was that because of that false verdict, his character was becoming more and more erratic and therefore he had to have a much tougher sentence then is usually possible in such cases.
• Turkey
5 Oct 08
I completely agree with you that how he handled the situation was wrong and as I said, I think that he should have to be punished for that. I just don't think life in prison is fair. That's my opinion.... As for him supposedly killing his wife, I wasn't there and neither were you, when those murders took place. My husband said that the evidence they presented at the Nicole Brown's trial showed that OJ Simpson couldn't have done. Now, whether he had someone did it for him or he was working with someone, I don't know. No one knows that. So, how can we say he did it??? Besides that, that case was already dealt with and should have nothing to do with this case and that's all I was trying to say. I would expect the same if I or anyone I knew were on trial.... Thanks for your comment, I really appreciate your honesty on the matter!
• Turkey
5 Oct 08
The above responce was meant for the person above you sorry but in any case, like I have said numerous times in this discussion, he was definitely wrong for how he handled the whole thing and I definitely think he should have to do time. However, I just think that life in prison is a bit much for these crimes and I feel that it stems from those who wanted to see him get that for the Nicole Brown case. No one could convince me otherwise...
@annjilena (5618)
• United States
5 Oct 08
o.j is a killer twice he took someone life and got away with it he did it.but he did not make one day of time.o.j is getting what he deserve iam sorry he is guilty as charged and has been for a long time.
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• Turkey
5 Oct 08
Oh, so you were there then when the murders took place. Why didn't you say so... In any case, I don't think that trial should have anything to do with this one and I think what he got this time around was unfair and based on what he didn't get the last time. That's just my opinion...
@braided (698)
• Canada
5 Oct 08
I agree with you ... I dont think this was a fair verdict for the situation ... and we arent really sure if he was guilty for the last situation either .... nobody but he knows the real truth ... we can all have an opinion ... but we really dont know if he killed his wife and her lover .... but you are absolutely right about not getting the proper conviction for this perticular trial .... thanks for bringing this subject up ... too bad our opinion doesnt help him ... i think hes getting a raw deal for sure ...
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@braided (698)
• Canada
9 Oct 08
Yes Exactly ... anyway i read in the newspaper yesterday that hes in jail waiting his appeal ... and that one juror said he thought he was guilty of killing his wife but he didnt let that factor into his decision on this case .... but honestly i dont believe that it didnt factor in .... do you?
• Turkey
5 Oct 08
Yes, thank you, that's all I was trying to bring out, that we shouldn't judge because we just don't know. The evidence in the last case did not prove that he did it, though some try to say that it does. I think that's just what they want to believe because people like to judge and they like to see people hanged, so to speak anyway...Thanks for your comment! I'm marking it as the best responce because it best explained what I'm trying to bring out here and that is how can we condemn when we were not there and we just don't know if he killed Nicole and her lover. Plus, that case should not have anything to do with this current one but sadly, I think it has everything to do with it to some....
@overhere (515)
• United States
4 Oct 08
The jury was all white, nine women, three men do I think he got a fair trial no way! Do I believe he was tried for this crime or one that he was already found not guilty of - guess lol. This is not necessarily a good day for American justice.
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• Turkey
5 Oct 08
Well, I think that that was wrong in itself, he should have at least had a mixed jury. Though, just the same it wouldn't have been right if the jurors were all black. I definitely think that what he did was stupid, especially based on his passed. However, I also think that he was judged on his past trial and I just feel that that's unfair. Thanks for your comment!
• Turkey
6 Oct 08
Honestly, I didn't follow that trial very much and if that was the case, then I agree, they certainly didn't get a fair trial at all...
• United States
6 Oct 08
Yes, the jury was all white but let's not forget....the murder trial. Weren't they all black or at the very least, 90% of them black? If you're saying that he didn't get a fair trial because of the race card, then Nicole and Ron didn't get a fair shot at justice during the murder trial now did they?
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@shamsta19 (3224)
• United States
4 Oct 08
This whole fiasco is an obvious set up. Why would someone who was doing a robbery with you record the entire event and present the evidence in court? OJ has been persecuted since the murder of Nicole Simpson. I am not protesting his innocence but he was found not guilty and in America's eye he is guilty regardless. SO ever since he has been in the public eye. And now even if he was guilty of this new crime it does not carry a life sentence. A guy just got charged in a murder trial and only got 57 years I mean come on? Basically OJ couldn't have gotten a fair verdict to begin with. In regards to this act, if he is guilty of it and stood trial and got convicted, I guess it's just about as fair as any other brothers trial.
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• Turkey
5 Oct 08
I agree, I really don't think that the verdict he was given was fair in the least. I wouldn't be surprised if he was set up because I just find it hard to believe that after all he went through with the Nicole Brown case, that he would go and do something so stupid as this. Though, I have to say that he is part of Hollywood, so who knows...In any case, I can't believe, not even for a second, that his verdict was one made with no thoughts in mind in regards to the Nicole Brown trial... Also, though I'm not one to cry prejudice right away, I think it was highly unfair that he had an all white jury. If anything, it should have been a mixed jury. I definitely think that he was dealt an unfair hand here, definitely...
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@cream97 (29087)
• United States
4 Oct 08
Yes, I will have to agree with you! The only reason why they are giving him life in prison, is because of the killing of his wife, Nicole, and friend.. I don't know who killed her and Ron. This is all because of what he did not get last time. Life in prison for robbery sounds far fetched! He did not kill anyone.. He was just taken back what was stolen from him.. He just made some bad choices, but being put into prison for this, is absurd. That is just the Law's way of getting back at him for a crime that he did not get convicted for.
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• Turkey
5 Oct 08
I completely agree, it just doesn't seem fair. I just can't believe for a second that his verdict wasn't made from people who knew they hadn't got him the first time and so they set out to get him this time around but that's the judging system for you, sometimes it works and sometimes it bites you in the butt...Thanks!
@mikeysmom (2088)
• United States
4 Oct 08
well he certainly is guilty this time and he should do time. but life in prison? that i do not agree with. seems excessive but armed robbery should carry a heavy sentence. and that is what it was. armed robbery. he can slice it and dice it any way he wants but what he did was wrong and against the law. as far as spillover from his previous trial in 1995 i would say that i am sure there were alot of people who felt he got away with murder and deserves to pay but one thing has nothing to do with the other. i did watch the trial and i did pay close attention to the evidence and testimony and aside from acutally witnessing the murder i would have convicted him. he is one of those people who thinks he is above the law and according to him he never does anything wrong. just watch his facial expressions and his reactions to things when he is accused. he certainly is not a stand up guy that is for sure.
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• Turkey
5 Oct 08
Oh, I agree, I don't think the he is an angel, not in the least but are any of us. According to my husband who watched the trial, he said that the evidence they had for the last trial just did not lead to him doing it. He said that he could have been working with others and perhaps that's why. In any case, I wasn't there when the murders happen and I try not to judge him on that. This case should not have anything to do with that case, regardless...I think he should bare some form of punishment in this last crime but life in prison? Whether it's not exactly life or whatever, I just think it's a really long time....
@mscott (1923)
• United States
4 Oct 08
Did he get charged with both armed robbery and kidnapping? If so I can see why he got life in prison. The sentence life in prison doesn't mean forever unless they state that there will be no chance of parole. If he behaves in prison he will get out after awhile. Do I think the people involved in this held something against him from his prior actions, you bet. I don't know how they couldn't. Is it fair? I guess it depends on what you consider to be fair or justice or karma.
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• Turkey
5 Oct 08
I personally don't think it's far but that's just my personal opinion. Maybe this will teach him not to do stupid things, especially if you're in the public eye...Thanks for your comment!
@belk89 (1103)
• Philippines
5 Oct 08
If their are solid evidence to prove that he is guilty then i dont see anything wrong with the judge verdict. His present case has nothing to do with the previous case he had. Regarding his past case i personally think the verdict should be guilty. But since the court already made the decision that he is not guilty of killing his wife then we just have to respect that decision. But regarding his present case i believe that he deserved to be sentence life in prisonment. Not because i felt he deserved to be in prison anyway but merely because the evidence that the prosecution had shown are enough to prove that he is guilty beyond reasonable doubt.
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• Turkey
5 Oct 08
Sorry, I don't agree that the verdict of life in prison, is a fair verdict for the crimes that he committed. Whether life in prison actually means that or not. It just seems harsh and I don't doubt that that verdict stemmed from the backlash of his last "Not Guilty" verdict at the Nicole Brown trial...