is cheating a "normal" part of school?

Philippines
February 7, 2009 12:53pm CST
almost all my friends have cheated at one point in their school life. they keep saying it is a part of school life, and that everyone cheats. i have to disagree; i have not cheated in a single exam. i do not believe in cheating at all. i don't believe in copying wrong answers (lol). kidding aside, it seems i am alone in my belief. i can't seem to find people who believe that cheating is not a normal part of school life. how about you, have you cheated before? how often have you cheated? will you mind explaining why students seem inclined to cheat? don't worry, i'm not your teacher under cover, so i'm not out to sanction you. ;b if your kids start cheating, do you shrug it off and think of it as a minor infraction? or do you take it seriously? it would be interesting to hear the truth, even from people who have cheated before. i'm not here to judge. :D
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• United States
7 Feb 09
I don't think I've ever met anyone who hasn't cheated in one way or another. I've met some people who claimed they never cheated, but later admitted that they did cut corners and cheat the system a bit while in school. So, yeah, I think it's a normal thing . . . even though it shouldn't be . . .
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• Philippines
7 Feb 09
see? i told you, it seems i can't find anyone else who hasn't cheated. i feel so abnormal. i can't bring myself to cheat! my conscience won't let me.
• Philippines
7 Feb 09
forgot to follow up... would you then let your kids get away with it? :D i know a lot of people cheat in school, but apparently their point of view changes when their children start doing it...
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• Philippines
8 Feb 09
I have a classmate in High School, she never copied from any of our test answers. Well, she's very smart and intelligent that she might think she knew better than we do or maybe she didn't trust us enough with our not-so-sure answers. I could still remember that she lets us copy her answers and we're like bees swarming near her just to have the answers to the test questions.
• Philippines
8 Feb 09
I wouldn't say normal but more of "it happens" You know, it's unavoidable, stuff like that during exams. I had been in the top section most or all (not to be boastful) of my schooling days and though it's like that, my classmates and I used to cheat at one another's paper. But of course, it's not as frequent as every exam. We only cheat if there's an important one and as much as possible, we tried to avoid it 'cause it's really bad when you get caught. We do it if the situation really calls for it. You know, when all the projects are lined up and exams on all subject are all on the same dates and you don't have enough time to study. But, I wouldn't say it's okay. Cheating is still cheating. So, I would suggest to anyone that as much as you can, try not to 'cause the feeling of having excellent exam results without the cheating and on your own effort, it's incomparable.
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• Philippines
8 Feb 09
incomparable indeed. thanks for being honest. i like hearing the truth. it's refreshing for people to share their views. as a parent though, what would you do if your child cheated? i find responses to this quite interesting. some want their children to always be the best in class and therefore condone cheating; others want their children to be more honest than they have been and therefore ban cheating. how about you? what are your views on this? please do share. :)
• Philippines
10 Feb 09
Well, I don't have kids and I'm not married yet but if that time comes, I wouldn't tolerate it. Cheating will not get my kids best in class but best in doing dishonesty. If they asked me if I've ever cheated, I would say yes but I will explain to them that in school, it happens but it's still wrong to do it, that there are consequences. It's better to get low grades knowing that you have a clean conscience than cheating at all to someone you know who made effort of studying and you just take advantage of it. As a parent, we should all be responsible on teaching how kids the value of studying, honesty and respect to others.
• Philippines
12 Feb 09
looks like you are an honest and you will be a good parent. :)
@atish19 (180)
• Mauritius
8 Feb 09
I won't go around the bush to say that i have not cheat and then admit that i have cheated in school. Yes i have cheat in some exams. It was when i was in lower classes. I was influence by other friends who liked to cheat. But later i realised, by doing that i myself don't know my capabolities. Then i stopped cheating and learn by myself and stop cheat. Also the punishment of cheating was severe.
• Philippines
8 Feb 09
yes, everyone can be tempted to cheat. i think that more important than a history of cheating is one's reaction to this deed. i can see that your reaction is one of insight. you have learned from something you did in the past. i hope that you now know your capabilities. i am also glad you have stopped cheating. how severe was the punishment? what happened?
@atish19 (180)
• Mauritius
8 Feb 09
If a student is caught cheating, he is expell from school and would call his/her parents. Once two students were caught cheating in an examination room. It was for cambridge school certificate. The student who was copying on his other friend was caught and the other who was not cheating was marked as failed in all subject though he worked well in others papers. As for the other one he was banned and now can't take part in cambridge school certificate exams.. Even the school refuse to take the student back. Just imagine only one mistake of cheating can change the life of someone.
• Philippines
8 Feb 09
yes that may seem harsh, but it does really make quite an impression. perhaps now it may seem like such a major punishment, but perhaps the lives of those students are now a lot better because they've learned how to live honest lives.
@sbeauty (5870)
• United States
7 Feb 09
When you cheat the only one you're cheating is yourself. The work teachers assign is meant to help you learn. Even if you can't see the point, the teacher, who has a lot more experience than you do, knows what she/he is trying to achieve. If you don't do your own work, you don't learn. If you don't learn, you won't know as much as you think you do. Someday, though, this lack of knowledge is going to jump up and slap you in the face. To get anywhere in life you need an education. Even on tests, you aren't proving a thing by cheating. You may get a better grade, but how accurately can the test determine if you've learned the material if you cheat on it. Do yourself a favor, and stay in the minority of honest students. If others don't care about their education, that's their problem. Apparently you do, so go for it!
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• Philippines
7 Feb 09
so i get that you don't cheat? have you ever cheated at all in school? :)
@sbeauty (5870)
• United States
19 Feb 09
I went to school 40 years ago, and we were taught not to cheat. I never needed to, anyway. Whatever grades I got, that's what I got. I couldn't have lived with myself if I had ever cheated.
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• Philippines
19 Feb 09
that's great to hear! =)
@ddrizzle (53)
• China
8 Feb 09
I think mamy people have cheated at least once,perhaps they have different reasons,well-meaning or vicious... As a teacher, i dislike the cheating of my students. acctually, cheating must exist in each examination i invigilated. sometimes i am worried severe punishment impact on their future,i didn't cancel their scores. Now I think this contributed to the bad atmosphere. so i am very ambivalent......
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• Philippines
8 Feb 09
well, i hope you have your issues resolved. perhaps you have not made up your mind about how you will react to cheating. after what you have gone through, have you made up your mind? like if it happens again, what are you going to do? good luck! thanks for posting!
• China
9 Feb 09
Now I think impartiality is the most important thing...ignoring the cheating of few students is unfair to others.i have made up my mind! have a nice day~~~^^
@paoxav (1382)
• Philippines
8 Feb 09
Yeah. Cheating is normal in school mostly to those students who were a bit lazy in studying their notes. It's not a good habit though coz they cannot cheat they work once they finish college. But anyway, its fine to cheat, as long as they'll not get caught.. LOL
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• Philippines
8 Feb 09
hehehe. it's like saying if a tree fell in the forest but nobody saw it, then it did not fall. lol yes it's true, unfortunately cheating is becoming a trend. i am just so afraid that even as professionals, they will still make a habit of cheating. this makes corrupt politicians. and, worse, it makes lying doctors. it's scary to think that the one person you entrust your life to may harm you then lie about it...
@godara (59)
• India
12 Feb 09
I don't think student's who are lazy in studying are only who cheats even the students good in studies cheats.
• India
8 Feb 09
You have been to school as much as your friends. You did not cheat so how can it be an integral part of school education? Some children who do nto have the porper family values resort to cheating. They probably see theri parents cheating in real life and learn from them. I have seen some children even being encouraged by theri parents to cheat. one father was scolding his son for getting low marks and said "Why couldn't you at least cheat from the boy sitting in front of you and manage at least 70% marks?" What willthe child do with such guidance?
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• Philippines
11 Feb 09
yes, you're right, most children learn from example, after all. parents do things like lying and cheating, and the children start to think it's okay. thanks for sharing your views!
@ellie26 (4128)
• Malaysia
8 Feb 09
Personally, I think cheating not only applies to school but also in workplace or even in our day to day life. So, cheating may be considered a 'normal' part of school. I am not saying I am good but I have never cheated during my school year. This cheating thing never cross my mind. I guess some students want or inclined to cheat when they want to really score good marks or perhaps didn't get themselves prepare for examination. If my children were cheating at school, I would definitely will take it seriously. If not, this will only encourage them not to study hard and always hoping that they can get away with good result cheating.
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• Philippines
8 Feb 09
that's a good mindset. i think that honest people are few and far between. i do hope your children will be as honest as you.
• India
8 Feb 09
I never cheated in school...especially copying was not my cup of tea. I would rather let go of the answer than copy. It somehow got sinked into me that copying was not a great thing to do. But, I do help others in copying my answers :)
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• Philippines
8 Feb 09
hehe. you're too generous. i know this may be out of your kindness, but you're not entirely helping your classmates by letting them scavenge instead of teaching them how to fish... :D nevertheless, you do not take credit for others' efforts, so that is good.
@becdmd (705)
• Philippines
8 Feb 09
It's not normal...but everybody is cheating and that makes it normal to all students because they're used to it already and it became part of their school lives...I admit, I've cheated but honestly I'm not proud of it, I've learned from my mistakes and didn't continue when I've become mature. Good for you that you haven't cheated eversince, maybe you're one of the few honest students...You will reap what you sow and it doesn't matter if it's normal or not, what's important is what you've learned and the benefits of not relying on other people.
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• Philippines
8 Feb 09
it is rather common, but it shouldn't be common. i think that although it may seem like a small thing, it may actually open the doors to bigger things. like one little test question today, then a lot of money being stolen tomorrow. but hey, mistakes happen. :) i'm glad you do not make cheating a habit. thanks for posting and have a nice day!
@angemac23 (2005)
• Canada
8 Feb 09
Cheating is not normal. Period. It may happen frequently, but it is not normal. If you came this far and have your morals intact and have not cheated, stay that way, you will come out better in the end. It is more rewarding to work for test scores and know that it is your work than to steal someone elses ideas and answers. These students who cheat now will also think it is ok to cheat in life when they are older too. YOu know this is wrong so don't succumb to the idea!
• Philippines
8 Feb 09
don't worry, i've never been tempted to cheat. :) i'm just wondering how people perceive cheating. i have seen in many posts that some people actually believe it is okay. i'm just curious about how others think of honesty. thanks for posting!
• United States
8 Feb 09
Yes, actually cheating is very normal part of school. I will admit that I have done it a few times because I didn't study or did not know the answers to certain things. I am not proud of it, but it was a learning experience.
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• Philippines
8 Feb 09
maybe by saying it is normal, you meant it is common? :) yes, cheating has become commonplace. but it shouldn't be... if as children someone is capable of cheating, then as an adult that person is capable of anything else. it can escalate to ugly heights... it takes courage to admit to cheating. :o it's good it became a learning experience for you. thanks for posting!
@eternalp (34)
• United States
8 Feb 09
I also believe that cheating is wrong. I think your friends have confused the adrenaline rush of cheating with cheating itself. I have also cheated, just once though. I never got caught but thought what if I had. I would have felt bad of course so I never wanted to take that chance again. I haven't cheated to this day.
• Philippines
8 Feb 09
people make mistakes. perhaps you've made the mistake before, but it's good you've learned from it. :o it takes insight and integrity to be able to admit you did something wrong and to actually learn from it.
@sahmof2 (274)
• United States
8 Feb 09
I have to disagree with your friends cheating is not a normal part of school I have never cheated in anything in school or out of it. Cheating is lying, dishonest, and wrong. I don't know sometimes people want to be so much in the in crowd they go against true morals and values.
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• Philippines
8 Feb 09
it is this dishonesty that makes politicians corrupt in the first place, right? hehe. and if doctors lie about accidentally killing a patient, boy, that can be a lot of trouble. cheating is becoming very common, but it shouldn't be...
@deebomb (15322)
• United States
8 Feb 09
I have to admit that I did cheat once in grade school. I Had to do a book report but was ill when it was due. I didn't like the book and put off reading it so I copied the example that was on the bulletin board. It was the only time I cheated. I had a teacher once that explained cheating this way. A DR had cheated to get his license but when it came to saving his mother's life he couldn't because he did't know what to do for her. I don't believe that cheating should be ever allowed or tolerated. I don't know if it is a normal part of school but I regret the one time I did cheat. If it is a normal part of school it makes you wonder who you can trust.
• Philippines
8 Feb 09
yes, that's true. i always tell my friends that it's hard to trust a doctor who has a cheating habit in school. he may the exact same thing as a doctor: he can falsify documents, he can make mistakes and harm patients then hide it. and it's this rampant dishonesty at a young age that makes our politicians so corrupt. i'm sorry you made a mistake when you were young, but you have learned from your mistake and that shows wisdom.
@reichiru (748)
• Canada
8 Feb 09
Sadly, I would say it's pretty normal now. I have cheated before also, but only very few times. I normally would not cheat if I can help it, it's only when I had lots of stress and stuff and didn't study that well would I even have the inclination to cheat. But that's very rare. I'm a straight A student, so I normally would never cheat. Lots of people do though, mainly because they're too lazy to study for exams. The students who don't cheat are the ones who study hard and do their own work. My physics teacher actually had to rewrite all his tests because one of the local tutors has the answers to every single version of his tests and gives it to students to practice with and memorize the answers for. It's pretty sad really, how the kids' parents would actually let them go to this tutor just to get good marks in school. I thought it was cheating, my parents also thought it was cheating. It's also not fair to the other students who actually try hard in school to get good grades honestly.
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• Philippines
8 Feb 09
what is sadder than students who cheat? answer: parents who actually like their children to cheat. it's good you're a straight A student, but it would be better if you had Bs but you can actually say the grade is all yours and noone else's, right? ;D but everybody makes mistakes. i just hope parents don't condone cheating. that's where rotten politicians come from: they all think corruption is "normal..." :(
• Canada
7 Feb 09
I have personally never cheated on a test, but I know people who have. It's not right, but it's a normal part of school. I think that a big problem is that schooling is so result-oriented. A lot of what education seems to be about nowadays is getting the high marks necessary to get onto honor roll or to get into a good university rather than fostering true learning or independent thinking. It's no wonder so many people cheat. They don't care about the material.
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• Philippines
8 Feb 09
it's true; most people just think of the grades instead of how much they have learned. it's ironic, because those grades are SUPPOSED to tell how much one has indeed learned! :o different universities in my country have been thinking of student-based, rather than teacher-based, education. but the transition is nearly impossible because students refuse to study on their own pace - they have been accustomed to following what the teacher dictates and have been spoonfed all their lives. but i'm glad you have never cheated before. cheers!
@TLChimes (4842)
• United States
7 Feb 09
I cheated in middle school on the map test. I hated trying to remember what went where. I have a learning disability that makes memory tough. So I just wrote the letters from a classmate's paper. I can't say I did it much other then that time because it just didn't fit with who I am. Only one of my kids tried it (and got caught) and no I didn't just let it go. I'm a mean mom. I wear that label with pride. Not only did he have to tell his teacher, take the test over, he also had to do an extra credit assignment. On my suggestion. I was harder on him then the teacher thought I should be. A good moral base laid for a child, helps create an adult with a good moral base.
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• Philippines
8 Feb 09
hehe. what is your learning disability? dyslexia, perhaps? wow, what you did with your child is great! if they learn early on about the consequences of dishonesty, they will grow up to be more honest.
@ladym33 (11007)
• United States
7 Feb 09
I don't think cheating is right. I think you cheat yourself when you cheat because it means you did not truly study the material, and therefore needed to cheat. I would be lying if I said I never cheated, because I have. I did not do it very often and I am not proud of it, but I did do it a couple of times, simply because I was having trouble memorizing something or did not have enough time to study. I only did it if the grade was really important too. But I don't think cheating is normal, but I think many, many people do it at one time in their life or another. It should certainly not be the way to get through school. If you have to cheat all through school maybe you shouldn't be there. But I am willing to bet that many, many people have done it at least once.
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• Philippines
8 Feb 09
you're right,most people have done it at least once. and you're also right; if someone cheats as often as they breath in oxygen, they might as wellnot be in school, because they are not learning anything. cheating is becoming rampant, but yes, it shouldn't be considered an acceptable and normal part of school life. thanks for posting!
@echomonster (2227)
• Greenwood, Mississippi
7 Feb 09
I think you're right that a lot of people cheat, but it's not everyone. I never did, for instance...I think I was more afraid of what my parents would think of me than the teachers, though! Probably those kids who have parents who are really concerned with academics do cheat less -- they have an extra reason to try to do well on their own merits so their parents will be proud of them. School work often seems unnecessary to students, though; even though it's like your job when you're young, most kids would rather be doing something other than school work with their time. Even I thought a lot of the homework and projects I was asked to do was pretty unnecessary, especially before college.
• Philippines
8 Feb 09
haha yes, sometimes the homework they give makes me scratch my head. good for you for not having cheated! i think a lot of people cheat because they always want to excel although they never work hard for it. hehe, i understand that what your parents have to say is more important than what the teachers have to say. i've never cheated although i'm not afraid of what both teachers and parents will say; i just didn't want anyone else to get credit for my achievements! :o hehe, so people like you who don't cheat also exist! makes me feel less of a weirdo. thanks and happy myLotting!