Uh-oh, from high school students to calls for a 2nd Tea Party, the giant awakens
By ladyluna
@ladyluna (7004)
United States
February 19, 2009 5:02pm CST
Hello All,
It's been a month since Obama took office. In one months time, we've got high school students declaring that Obama's plans aren't addressing the source of the problem, and CNBC personalities publicly calling for a 2nd Tea Party in Chicago! YOWZA!!!
"This puts us more into debt," said Albach, 18. "It's a horrible situation we're in." .... Miller said he had been an Obama supporter "because of his speeches," but after debating the issues in this class and looking more into Obama's policies, his vote was swayed toward McCain...."Even though I don't support him, I think it's cool he's here," said Miller, 18. "I just don't believe all the things he's telling us. His goal is just too big and broad."
http://www.eastvalleytribune.com/story/135656
Then there's this shocking CNBC call for a 2nd Tea Party: Believe me, if you haven't seen this, you've got to!
http://www.cnbc.com/id/15840232?video=1039849853
1. What does it all mean for Obama, Pelosi, Reid?
2. Is this the Giant awakening?
3. Are you yourself, or do you know people who are recovering from the election hang-over asking "What did we do?" Or, you satisfied with the CHANGES that have been ushered in over the course of the past month? If you have trust in Obama's vision, what is the source of that trust? Please, I'd sincerely like to understand.
4. If you are of the opinion that Obama should be given adequate time to try to implement his vision of CHANGE, then how much time do you think he should be given?
Thanks for your participation herein. I look forward to each of your responses.
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13 responses
@gewcew23 (8007)
• United States
20 Feb 09
What does it all mean for Obama, Pelosi, Reid, the peasants are starting to revolt. 2010 will not be a good year for the Dems in Congress, the in 2012 this horrible nightmare will be over.
Is this the Giant awakening, yes. Funny to say but Obama winning the election and both chambers of Congress in control by Pelosi and Reid is the best thing that could have happen to America. America is starting to revolt against big government and who is in full control of this huge government monster, the Democrat. In 2010 no one, not even the most loyal Democrat can blame anything on the Republicans. If McCain had won conservatism would be blamed, even though we know that McCain was not a conservative.
I am recovering from the election hang over no because I was never drunk with love for Obama. I am not sure if the rank and file Obama loyalist is ever going to wake up but I believe that independents that vote for Obama will sober up.
Do I believe that Obama should be given any time, HECK NO. Why should I? That would be like giving a gunman time to pull the trigger to see what the gunman will do.
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@ladyluna (7004)
• United States
20 Feb 09
Hello Gewcew,
There are already real, live people talking about recalling any Rep. who voted for these bailout(s). If they have their way, it won't be another 3 years, 11 months. No one believed that California would have recalled Gray Davis either! I dunno where this is all headed, just sayin'...
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@lilwonders456 (8214)
• United States
19 Feb 09
I say good for them. Stand up for themselves. They will be the ones paying all this national debt and for all these new social programs and pet projects. This is a good sign that they are paying attention to what is going on and how it will effect their lives. The honeymoon is over and a lot of people are starting to get really upset about what is being done.
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@ladyluna (7004)
• United States
20 Feb 09
Thank you Lilwonders!
I'm thrilled that you've touched on the primary reason why I made mention of the high school students. Yup, they stand to lose that much more than you or I, 'cause they'll be paying off the debt for that much longer. It sounds as though they are none too happy about it either.
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@redyellowblackdog (10629)
• United States
20 Feb 09
It is always darkest just before the dawn! Good for the youth of today.
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@xfahctor (14118)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
20 Feb 09
I was one of the few early on, long before the elections sounding this alarm, very few would listen of give it much credence at the time, look back through my posts and you'll see it. We have been creeping towards a revolution or civil war for a while now. For the longest time, very few in the main stream would recognize it and even fewer in the media would acknkowlege it. But we are seeing it more and more now. Some people call Glen beck "chicken little". He may be a bit sensationalist in some of his reporting but the stories he has been showing lately are blatently in the open happening and he is spot on in his assessment of the mood of the country.
The U.S. military has also been quietly planning for just such a scenario, the info isn't that hard to find. The signs aren't that hard to read. With citizen forces numbering in the millions, the numbers are certainly there, all that is needed now is for that fuse to be lit, if it hasn't already. We may well already be watching a slow fuse burning, unbelieving and unwilling to see it, but there it burns non the less.
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@ladyluna (7004)
• United States
20 Feb 09
Hello X,
"few in the main stream would recognize it and even fewer in the media would acknkowlege"
Exactly, which is why it's so mind-boggling that CNBC televised this! This represents a lightning quick cultural shift. The speed with which this shift is ocurring is essentially unheard of. And that, I suspect, is very telling.
@ladyluna (7004)
• United States
20 Feb 09
Hello X,
Thank you for the announcement. Hubby and I have been waiting for today's show for the past couple of weeks that Beck has been teasing for it. We tivo his show daily, since we aren't able to watch it live. It has of late become one of the more jarring, yet insightful parts of our day. Because we live in a border state, we have found Beck's attention to the nightmare on the Southern border to be very refreshing. The rest of the media has conveniently ignored theis nightmare for years. I'm pleased to see that someone finally has the cojones! I'm just sorry that I never knew who Beck was before his transfer to Fox.
@xfahctor (14118)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
20 Feb 09
Watch Glen Becks show tonight at 5 eastern, it's more than just the cnbc story. this has been brewing in back channels of the web for a while, but like all good revolutions, it couldn't be contained. People are waking up in droves now and they are waking up PISSSED
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@spalladino (17891)
• United States
20 Feb 09
Yes, I believe the Giant is awakening...more and more people are taking an interest in the direction this country is headed and that's a good thing. I was never on the kool-aid. As many here know I was undecided, torn and concerned about many things before finally deciding who to vote for. I won't defend what I see as wrong though. So many little wrongs...barely noticable at first...but when you add them up it's starting to look worse and worse for this country and THIS COUNTRY is what I unconditionally support. I don't like the stimulus...I don't like the bailouts and I've made my concerns known to my elected representatives more than once. Online petitions are convenient but worthless. People need to speak out, individually and to those they helped to put into office and who may wish to remain in office.
@ladyluna (7004)
• United States
20 Feb 09
Hello Spalladino,
Thanks for sharing your thoughts here. I especially want to acknowlege your willingness to view both sides of this electoral history. It's never easy to put one's self 'in the line of fire' by expressing independent ideas. So, big thumbs up to you!
@AngryKittyMSV (4317)
• United States
19 Feb 09
You already know what side I'm on, and I am pleased to see that the koolaid induced stupor is starting to wear off on some (but not nearly enough) people. I'm now off to see the CNBC link after I change my baby's diaper.
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@AngryKittyMSV (4317)
• United States
19 Feb 09
Changed the diaper and watched the link and all I can say is Holy Crap! The Communist national Business Channel is off the koolaid! I am stunned. That Santeli is awesome.
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@AngryKittyMSV (4317)
• United States
20 Feb 09
Do you think he'll have a job tomorrow?
Yes I do, he'll have a job tomorrow - on Fox!
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@Destiny007 (5805)
• United States
20 Feb 09
Well, the first link is pretty much nothing more than praise for 0bama and his trip to that school. After some digging it showed some protesters, but that was about it.
The 2nd link I saw yesterday, and it was really good.
The bit about Cuba having had mansions and a good economy before it became socialist was well taken, and a good example of why socialism is not good for us or anyone else. It also used to be a popular spot for Americans to visit and vacation.
As to your questions....
1... The 3 stooges think that they have a mandate just because they won by 4 points. 4 points does not a mandate make except for the very delusional. They are all arrogant and think they cannot lose. I think they may be mistaken.
2...When the people who were previously in the tank for the 0bamunist now are criticizing... and even mocking him and his foolish and sophomoric policies... then it is a good indication that people are finally beginning to see the error of their ways. The fact that the market dropped 300 points on the day Porkulus was signed is further indication that the market has no confidence in the 0bamunist's economic policies.
3... I know people who voted for this usurper in chief who when they are told of some of the things that are being planned keep saying the government can't do that... or that just because a report appears on the internet they claim it's fake and they will believe it when it happens... by which time it will be too late of course. There are a couple who can't believe the things the 0bamunist is doing, while the rest believe everything the MSM says on TV. It is running about 50%.
Trust in the 0bamunist's vision? Leaving America defenseless..cutting military spending during a war...socializing our economy and spreading the wealth... trying to appease, mollify, and coddle our enemies... and just generally opposing everything that has made our country great throughout our history?
I think the 0bamunist's vision is to destroy America the Nation, and to build America the State in the UN's World Government scheme. I think the 0bamunist's vision is the same vision that Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin, Marx... and all other socialists had... Totalitarian Fascism where the people where slaves to the government and had no say in government affairs.
We already know that is what Reid and Pelosi want... and many others as well with all of their talk of another Fairness Doctrine.
4... I don't share his vision, and I think that the sooner he can be removed, the better off we will all be.
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@xParanoiax (6987)
• United States
24 Feb 09
Well, I hope it's the sign of a trend. I really do.
And if the few examples of my generation starting to get fed up (talking about protests as big as the Bostan Tea Party for example) are an indication of more to come, I'll be the happiest girl on earth because I wasn't confident that there was much hope for my generation at all.
@rodney850 (2145)
• United States
20 Feb 09
LadyLuna,
First, how are you? I hope this day finds you doing well.
Now for my comment:
As I see this playing out I can only lament about the position our government is putting our grandchildren and their children in. These are the ones who will be paying and paying dearly for this "stimulis" porkage.
Pelosi, Reid and all of the rest of the giddy democrats will never change, period! They will continue, as will their new leader, to believe that America cannot survive without their help right to the very end.
As for Obama, he probably believes that what he is doing will work. After all, isn't that what the liberals have maintained throughout history? This is an inexperienced junior senator from Illinois with less than a year of real experience in the federal government so what can we expect? He is just doing what other people tell him will work!
Changes? You know from my pre-election posts that I maintained that people who were so enamoured with Obama would be feeling betrayed and dissillusioned shortly after inauguration. This just bears out my prediction. Not all change is good!
As far as giving his "change" time to work, I don't believe America can survive many more of his "changes" financially. Our country is not only on the verge of defaulting on her loans but we stand at the very brink of civil war as the turn of this MSM giant(CNBC)against their once "can do no wrong" messiah would indicate. How sad and utterly unnecessary that would be!
Finally, in my opinion, our country has become more racially divided than it has been in the last 40 years even though we have our first black/white president. I don't see where this has made racial relations better but contrarily has affected them in an adverse way.
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@ladyluna (7004)
• United States
20 Feb 09
Greetings Sir Rodney,
What a lovely greeting, thank you! I am as well as can be expected, and hope that you and yours are similary staying afloat!
I so share your lamentations for our kids and grandkids. As I see it, my 18 month old grandson has essentially been enslaved by this generational debtor's obligation. I wonder, is this shackling of future generations some kind of a sick revenge for past deeds? Doesn't this equate to child abuse? This administration has unfairly targeted those who are younger than the minimum age to vote, and/or have not yet been born to fund their wash-list of projects & high-stakes wagers.
Yes, I recall some very poignant predictions from you and other sage members of this community about the potential after-shocks of the November elections.
I agree that allowing the divisions to degrade to a point of violence would be wholly unnecessary. There are alternatives.
Excellent points, my friend!
@angelia286 (2029)
• Singapore
20 Feb 09
Speaking from someone from Singapore who isn't supporting either sides of the party as frankly speaking, it's none of my business, I feel that Obama has the charisma and diplomacy to make it big as a President.
Obama was given a bad deal - one that was created during George Bush reign. A nest of debts and economic downturn, a mess of an uncertain future. Bush sh*tted and Obama had to clean his a$$ for him. In which case, time should be given to him to try and clear up the mess first before his policies and dreams can be implemented right?
Bush has got it easy compared to Obama, and yet, Bush had messed up big time in his first term, and Americans voted him in again for a 2nd term? Now that is something that I don't understand at all. But Obama is trying to right a wrong situation and yet people are frustrated with him?
Are Americans seriously sure that they are not being racist here? Give the poor man some slack and support him all the way. Afterall, Americans have made their choice and they will have to live with their choice.
Give Obama credit for trying to make do with the worst lot he have on hand and trying to make them right, and not pull him down by asking yourself if you have made the wrong choice.
This is my 2 cents worth and I hope that I have not offended anyone with my views. Lol afterall, I just hate war and well Bush had got on the wrong side of me for advocating unnecesary wars just because..
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@xfahctor (14118)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
20 Feb 09
I will obstain from my usual "you don't live here and you don't have any Idea" rant.
It is not just Obama, it's the whole damnn federal government we are sick of. You have to have an understanding of how our nation was set up and how our system is supose to work. The federal government is supose to have very little power, most of the power belonging to each state instead. That has slowly changed and we, the people, are sick of it. We are granted the right of revolution in such case where as the government becomes too powerfull and corrupt, in our declaration of independence, our U.S. constitution and in many state constitutions it is spelled out very litteral as "the right of revolution".
"Are Americans seriously sure that they are not being racist here?"
Absolutely not. It has nothing to do with the color of a president, it has to do with the corruption of a government.
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@Ima_C_Suvaya (431)
• United States
3 Mar 09
I think we're all giving 0bama too much credit. He is just the face of the machine. We got Biden, Pelosi, Reid, Dodd, Frank, Boxer & Feinstein, union leaders... pulling his marionette strings. The awakening has to be big enough to wipe out the whole lot of 'em. Not that the GOP should escape our withering fire unscathed.
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@deejean06 (1952)
• United States
20 Feb 09
Obviously the market has spoken and loudly! It says that there is no confidence that the current administration's policies are going to cure the financial woes of the country. The complete opposite can and will happen as the American people get further and further in debt caused by others' poor choices. I did not vote for the current President but never thought it would be this bad.
@ladyluna (7004)
• United States
20 Feb 09
Hello Deejean,
You're so right -- the market has spoken, and has since then moved on to a full embrace of the grieving process. How can America not grieve the near 50% loss of our futures? IRA's, Roths, 401Ks, 401Cs, savings, and investments -- poof, gone, and the bleeding continues.
I suspect that you're also right about people and their choices. At this point, I have to consider that the only people lauding this bail-out insanity are those who didn't have anything to lose to begin with. Perhaps I'm mistaken -- perhaps there are those who are doin' a jig over their own real losses? Maybe Obama's supporters really don't mind doing without so that someone else can be bailed out. I, however, am not one of them! In fact, I'm really steamed about this insanity. I'm beyond livid that my grandson and my nephews will be enlsaved by this debt, and that the pigs in DC seem to have no remorse about shackling our future generations with this kind of prohibitive ball & chain. How dare they???
@deejean06 (1952)
• United States
20 Feb 09
We just started putting aside money for my son's college tuition. Since he's only 8 months old we have time for the market to recover but each month that goes by I'll have to think about if I truly want to do it now or not? After all the value of the fund will decrease dramatically before it increases. And will we need that extra money to just buy food since the price of a loaf of bread will probably skyrocket when the government starts printing money to cover these much-needed programs?
I don't want my son to be enslaved by debt - that's why we chose to begin a savings program for him. And you're right - this is insanity!
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@rljj812 (10)
• United States
20 Feb 09
Well the fact that people are starting to see that Obama and his minions in Congress are not gonna fix the problem. To bad we have to wait 2 years to make a change. As far as the Giant awakening, I surely do hope that it is and I hope that Conservatism is right at the head of it as people wake up. I fortunately and unfortunately do not know anyone personnaly who voted for Obama, the only person I know was gonna vote for him I have not spoken to since Oct, lol. No I am not satisfied with the changes he has made. Trust uhm no not at all. The more time he is given the more he will bring us down and the more he will hurt our country.
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