Good Neighbor Threatened by State

United States
September 30, 2009 2:36am CST
A woman in Michigan selflessly watches three of her neighbors children for about an hour before the school bus arrives each day. When I heard this I thought that was such an incredible thing for her to do! But then I heard what happened to her...she was threatened by the state and told she had to stop!!!! I think this is ridiculous and she should not be worried that she is going to be charged for doing a good deed. For the whole story follow the link below! http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090929/ap_on_re_us/us_baby_sitter_backlash_mich So what are your thoughts on this?
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@writersedge (22579)
• United States
30 Sep 09
She'd be in trouble in NY STate, too. Need a child care permit, x number of hours of classes, a fire extinguisher, practice fire drills, smoke alarm, so many square feet per child, guest book for any guests to sign in and on and on such as activities, materials for the kids, home inspections, etc. States have gotten crazy.
• United States
30 Sep 09
omg! I had no idea that this was going on in so many places! I really hope that means that it hasn't hit Arizona yet! lol. I'm not going to waste time out of my day to take classes on how to care for my own family! "People are crazy." -- Billy Currington
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@writersedge (22579)
• United States
30 Sep 09
Nah, most people make sense, States are crazy.
• United States
1 Oct 09
lol yeah! people are okay as long as they aren't in a group ;P
@epicure35 (2822)
• United States
30 Sep 09
Of course this is the height of absurdity. It is just another example of what happens when there is too much government regulation and interference and the complete abandonment of any common sense whatsoever. It is the exact definition of the meanings of "the letter of the law kills; the spirit gives life". If the "law" was intended for the protection of children, that's one thing, but when it is misapplied through lack of wisdom and common sense, even the purpose of the law is defeated. I understand that a neighbor complained, but, obviously do not know her motivation. The agency could have made a simple phone call to ascertain the circumstances, before issuing a threatening "cease and desist" order. Because our nation is now under such big government intrusion into the lives of its citizens this seems all the more frightening. People informing on each other without cause, as BHO would like, can be so harmful. I am NOT talking about abuse or anything like it. We lose sight of our humanity when bureaucracy takes the place of common sense and personal relationship. The good news is that some in Michigan's government undertook to rectify the situation; that doesn't happen very often these days. All too often innocent people are needlessly harmed because of the lack of wisdom and good judgment that is supposed to be inherent in those who should be responsible to exercise them. Think of all the time and money wasted, not to mention harm to the families involved, especially the children that a responsible and nice neighbor was "going the extra mile" to care for and keep safe.
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• United States
1 Oct 09
OH! It was a neighbor who reported her!? WTH! I must have missed that! I bet they'll be getting the cold shoulder from at least 4 of their neighbors! Why on earth would someone do that, she wasn't hurting anyone by watching these kids! At least some people with power are looking into it, hopely they make a right decision and use their heads!
@david2005 (800)
• Canada
30 Sep 09
Society will treat a person any way they can if they know they can get away with it and I think that she should take them to court and fight for her rights as a person.
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• United States
1 Oct 09
I hope they don't get away with it! I hope they get resistance from all the parents and babysitters in the state! That might open their eyes a little bit!
@dawnald (84147)
• Shingle Springs, California
30 Sep 09
I saw that one on the news this morning and was thinking of starting a discussion myself. I think it's a moronic example of government over regulation of things that ought to be left alone.
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@hvedra (1623)
30 Sep 09
We've got a similar situation going on here in the UK. Two female cops (yes, that says cops) are looking after each others kids when one is on shift and the other one isn't. They've been told they have to register as childminders in order to do this. I can understand that there needs to be some safeguards over where kids are left but we're actually talking about a cop leaving her kid with another cop not some stranger. It seems to me that the powers in grey suits are doing anything and eveything to harrass ordinary folks whilst real criminals are left alone. Nuts!
@Thoroughrob (11750)
• United States
30 Sep 09
I think it is totally absurd! Why do they want to pick on people that are just trying to be nice. They should just leave people alone. It isn't like she had a whole house full of kids all day long.
• United States
30 Sep 09
I know...it's ONE hour!!! She's doing a very nice thing for THREE neighbors who probably count a lot on her! And even if it wasn't just an hour--people shouldn't be told that they can't leave their children with a trusted friend/family member---and instead they HAVE to take them to impersonal STRANGERS who have to deal with tons of kids all day long! BOO MICHIGAN!!!!!!!!!
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@Thoroughrob (11750)
• United States
30 Sep 09
This will just give other states something to look into and see what they can stir up. It is too much government in our lives again.
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• United States
30 Sep 09
Oh! They better not try to pull that crap where I live!! lol. My sister, one of my parents, or myself watch my nieces and nephew a lot for our family--and we aren't going to be told we can't do that! We LIKE seeing them and we are not going to stop, law or no law. We'll be criminals for being with our family! Ridiculous...
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@Maggiepie (7821)
• United States
30 Sep 09
[b]Why the H-E-double hockey sticks does the state even CARE?! Anyway, they should butt out. Good grief! Sigh, once again the buttinsky state pokes it's (censored) nose under the camel's tent, just so "no good deed goes unpunished." I hope she tells them where to go! Grrr! Oh, wait, saying that means I'm now on record with them for being a "low-level terrorist." Not that it'll make ME shut up. }^P Maggiepie "WHERE'S THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE?"[/b]
• United States
30 Sep 09
LOL! Well....apparently there is a law for child care centers that says UNLESS you are a licensed child care person, there is a set amount of time you are allowed to watch children for someone. And I guess some day care facilities found out what this woman was doing and reported her. If I lived there I would boycott those facilities so fast!!!
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@Maggiepie (7821)
• United States
30 Sep 09
[b]That has to be an unconstitutional law! The state has no right to tell you who you can let babysit your kids or for how long or even where! Hell, half the teens in the USA would be "criminals" if that were so! I hope she challenges this stupid, illegal law & gets it thrown off the books. AND that people boycott those day care centers for complaining! Maggiepie (still steamed!!! ) "WHERE'S THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE?"[/b]
@Maggiepie (7821)
• United States
30 Sep 09
[b]I just realized something else--the kids who go to public school are in the care of people who don't have a "licensed day care center"--all day! Should we tell them they're breaking the law? This is just idiotic. Grrrrr! Maggiepie (still steamed!!! ) "WHERE'S THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE?"[/b]
@surfette (674)
• United States
1 Oct 09
I saw an interview on television with this woman, the moms of the children she watched and the legislator who is trying to help her get this mess straightened out. Out of the goodness of her heart, she watched and sheltered these children while they waited for the bus with NO MONEY involved, just friend to friend. If that had been the case when I was a child, my mom would have been in jail. She gave rides and watched my school friends and helped to start the Helping Hand program in our city. Yes, this was in the 50's and early 60's, when neighbors were not afraid and more than willing to help each other. This Michigan woman does not know who called, but they verified that it was a busy body neighbor. For heavens sake, What Have We Become? In this day and age, when we see creeps kidnapping and murdering children, I think this woman is not only sheltering these kids from the elements but from the weirdos that wander the street. She deserves to be honored, not threatened by the government. Just as a side note, didn't President Obama ask the citizens of the country to join in and volunteer to help each other in one of his presidential speeches recently? Perhaps he should get involved and make a statement for the benefit of this lady.
• United States
1 Oct 09
Yeah, it was a neighbor! I hope they find out who reported her because it's just ridiculous and mean. MY neighbors call the police when they think something bad is going on around us...thats the right way to be a neighbor. The wrong way is defeniatly reporting a woman who is watching children as a favor to friends! Wow your mom sounds like a great person, starting the Helping Hands and doing so much good for the people during that time! :) Yeah, I think this story could get such high rise news status the Obama may have to make a statement on her behalf for his image
@millertime (1398)
• United States
1 Oct 09
Here we have yet another case of the government needing to exert unnecessary control over citizens. One of the first things that strikes me about this story is, how did they find out about it? Some busybody had to have called and reported her. Otherwise, how would they even know? So that's the first thing that irks me. But I have to mention the law. At first glance one would have to say it's a stupid law, but I can see why the law was enacted. They wanted to stop people from setting up an unregulated day care center. The spirit of the law has children's welfare in mind. So now we get to the second thing that really irks me. These people at the Michigan Department of Human Services are totally clueless. Obviously, this woman isn't setting up a day care center. They probably didn't even bother to check it out before they sent her the threatening notice either. This woman who watches the kids for a while as a favor to her friends and neighbors and to keep the kids safe before the bus comes, is NOT what the law was created for. As I read further in the story, I saw that indeed some busybody neighbor did call and report her. I also read that, thankfully, logic and common sense will prevail. The Governor got involved and called the head of the agency who agreed that the law should be changed so it doesn't interfere with people helping each other out. They actually made logical statements like the law "really gets in the way of common sense" and "we want to protect kids, but the law needs to be reasonable." I'm encouraged to see that more sensible heads will prevail over the mindless bureaucrats that sent out the notice in the first place. Hopefully a happy ending.
• United States
1 Oct 09
Well, I'm glad this is being looked in to! I don't think this lady was even charging her neighbors! So she defeniatly wasn't trying to set up her own day care center out of her house. I'm all for a law that protects children, but this one (as it is currently being enforced) is not one of them!
@DavidReedy (2411)
• United States
2 Oct 09
Everywhere you look state intervention in how we raise our kids...everywhere, and, unfortunately, we've asked for it.