Putting conditions on discussions

@dawnald (85135)
Shingle Springs, California
October 8, 2009 1:59pm CST
Serious responses only Please don't respond if you didn't read the article Women only / Men only Please be polite and keep to the topic What do you think about people putting pre-conditions on a discussion? Do you try to respect them? Does it depend on the person and on the topic? Or do you think anything goes (should go)? I actually saw one person put a pre-condition on her discussion and one person started arguing with her about it. Pretty disrespectful I thought. And it does come down to respect. If you saw a discussion about somebody having lost a family member, I think most of us would agree that flying by and leaving a sarcastic comment would be disrespectful. On the other hand, if it was a close friend of yours and you left an off topic, funny comment to a serious discussion, you might know that it would be OK with that person. How are your instincts for that sort of thing? Have you run into trouble with anybody for leaving the wrong sort of comment on a discussion? Not me, I'm perfect. And if you believe that, I have a really nice bridge I'm selling!
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@mysdianait (66009)
• Italy
8 Oct 09
There are enough Guidelines already here without others putting up conditions on their discussions too. I find them off-putting unless they are users that I already know well enough to realise that they do so as part of their way of Lotting. Nowhere does it say that only certain users should answer certain topics. I go where my fancy takes me and I feel I am responsable in what I say and to shomw I say it. I feel that my closest friends know that I sometimes land and make my presence felt in one way or another but never do I purposely offend. I would not leave a response on a discussion by a user that I did not recognise if there were already certain rules laid down in the topic [i] Hey over a year ago you said you would send me your ref link to that bridge [/i]
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@mysdianait (66009)
• Italy
8 Oct 09
Three times! I bet you don't know how to use PMs and that's the problem LOL
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
8 Oct 09
Sure I know how to. It's the memory that's going...
@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
8 Oct 09
Oh dang, I've sold that bridge three times since then, but as soon as it's sold back to me, well you've been moved to the top of the list.
@p1kef1sh (45681)
8 Oct 09
Do you seriously want serious responses Dawn? Bugger. OK. I don't like exclusivity in discussions at all. I might never have had a monthly period, but that doesn't mean that I cannot empathise or have a view. That said, it depends on the poster and what they post. If it is you, I'd wade in knowing that you'll cut me off at the knees if I overstep the mark. But if it is someone that I've never responded to before, and the subject is one that I might normally be flippant about; I'd do my best to be sensitive or pass on by. OK. Serious enough. Can I go back to blowing gum bubbles again now?
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
8 Oct 09
Oh of course you don't have to leave a serious response! Hey, the person who blows the biggest bubble gets to be the principal for a day. Ready, get set, blow...
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@sharra1 (6340)
• Australia
10 Oct 09
I quite agree with you. I do not like limiting discussions either. There is also nothing wrong with leaving funny responses. I am no good at them but I appreciate good funny responses when I read them.
@SomeCowgirl (32191)
• United States
8 Oct 09
I used to put conditions on my posts. I can't say I won't do it again, but I do try to be more fun now. It's the best way to be, ya know? I think that people should be respectful of conditions unless ofcourse they know the friend wouldn't mind a joke / needed a joke. SOmetimes there are people who will joke on a serious discussion but it won't phase the discussion starter because of who it is who joked.
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
8 Oct 09
I mostly don't and I mostly don't mind any kind of comment, though I can see where it would be disrespectful to go against somebody's stated wishes unless you really know what's OK with the person.
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@jazzsue58 (2666)
9 Oct 09
I do often wonder if people even read discussions before replying, so I can understand people putting conditions. My own are never interesting enough to warrant it, unfortunately. Plus, I'm never sure if it would violate guidelines. I did once post a discussion where I needed input from people about hair straighteners they used - it was for an article I was writing - but that's as near as I ever got. The condition I'm putting on this post is: You've all got to tick the plus botton, you hear me?!
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
9 Oct 09
Yes maam, I plussed you. Now this would be funny. I could post a really long discussion and somewhere buried in the middle would be a sentence saying please respond to this sentence only. Want to bet how many people would actually catch that AND only respond to that sentence? lol
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@rosepedal64 (4188)
• United States
8 Oct 09
Hi dawn So where is that brige at that you have for sell. Im interested in it...LOL.. Okay to the serious side of things. I don't put any conditions on my discussion. If it a sad discussion sometimes throwing in a little laughter helps. I have not to the best of my knowledge been hateful to anyone. That is not the type of person that I am..I would respect any ones wishes on their discussion. great discussion..
@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
8 Oct 09
It's a lovely stone bridge and it's currently living in my swamp that I have for sale. :-) You can throw a little laughter into my discussions any time!
@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
8 Oct 09
The swamp is free, but the alligators may not go peacefully...
• United States
8 Oct 09
Okay dawn I will be over to take a look at that bridge and did you say that the swamp goes with it..What a deal...LOL
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@matsulori (269)
• United States
9 Oct 09
I suppose it depends upon what is requested, the situation, and the language used -- whether it's politely requested or demanded makes a heck of a lot of difference to me. Mostly I believe 1, you put it out there in a VERY public arena. To expect rigid adherence to your demands isn't exactly practical. 2, If you didn't want it discussed by certain types, i.e., you're conservative, and you don't want ANY liberal input, then there are certainly other sites that cater to those with the same political ideas where you can go back-patting; the same goes for those with very religious discussions. Basically, if it's not discussion of the issue you've put up, then don't put it up for discussion. On the example you've given, while on the one hand I understand that knowing someone more intimately would give you more insight and allow you more leeway, others may see your comment and think it's alright to make light of this discussion with the person who's put up the discussion. But since I've recently had the pleasure of reading your comments and can immediately see that you are one to take to humor often and without malice (that I can see, anyway), personally if I had a serious discussion and you replied with humor, I wouldn't be offended -- but that's just me. Of course, you're talking to an amputee (3/4 of my right leg is gone) along with whose friends make jokes of going to half-off shoe sales just to mess with the sales person, changing my name to Eileen (or Irene, if in Japan) -- you get the picture :D. I don't put qualifiers on my discussions. If someone's rude, I'll call them on it, but that's about it.
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
9 Oct 09
Half off shoe sales, oh my! :-) Yes I do try to approach many things with humor, hopefully not too grumpily, though I do have my days. lol Now that would be funny on a discussion. "I only want to hear liberal opinions on this, conservatives need not reply." Not only would people NOT adhere to that most likely, but if they did it really wouldn't be a discussion, would it?
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• United States
9 Oct 09
:) Those are the ones I read for entertainment.
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
9 Oct 09
I must admit, some of the ones where people get all hot and bothered and start sniping at one another sometimes have me laughing the hardest.
• Canada
8 Oct 09
A good point to make for discussion; good for you! There are times when a condition to a topic of discussion is needed and there are times that no condition is necessary. If there is a condition then of course we should respect that. If the writer as nothing to say in that paticular discussion then no comment on it. Simply by pass it so that discussion can go in the direction the writer intends for it to go. A lot of myLotter's don't take myLot seriously and that is to bad. There is a tremendous amount of conversations started that we can be free spirited with so why not discipline our selves to some self control on other discussions. They give us opportunity to use our brains and seriously think about what we want to say and if not we can move on and leave it alone. My biggest beef with some comments in a discussion is that they leave an answer that as nothing to do with the discussion. It appears they have not read the discussion to know how to properly answer it so their answer is on a completely different topic. Strange!Have you had that experience?
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
8 Oct 09
I certainly have had responses that had nothing to do with the discussion. Sometimes I will post a 'trick' title and state in the discussion something like "but what this is really about is"... And then I will get a long dissertation having to do with the title and nothing to do with the discussion. A lot of times it's just foreign speakers who didn't understand though. If I think somebody has totally missed the point or I just don't understand their response, I will say so though. I've been accused of that also, though in my case what I am usually guilty of is zoning in on one point out of three and getting slammed for not addressing the other two.
@zed_k4 (17589)
• Singapore
8 Oct 09
I don't put conditions to my discussions but if I ever see anyone with that kind of condition, I would respect the wish of the person starting it. Anyway, it's her or his discussion. But if the wishes are too ridiculous, I might be put off to answer anyway. And I don't like to argue; not in my bones, lol.
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• Australia
9 Oct 09
Dawn, if I took your response here seriously, I would be excluded from your discussions. You go ahead and use your "completely grammatical American English" but I absolutely refuse to say something is different THAN something else! I'll stick with English English.
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
8 Oct 09
Yeah like "respond in completely grammatical American English and cite your references and if you go off topic I will report you and tell everybody your nose is green"... Ok maybe not that ridiculous!
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
9 Oct 09
well good that you know I"m teasing then!
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@savypat (20216)
• United States
8 Oct 09
I have only had that problem once or twice, I tend to go the other way and take seriously what is intended to be in fun. About restricting discussions, I think that may be a little naive, this is all open to the membership and one or two rude comments is to be expected I think, I'm not saying this is right I'm just saying it's going to happen.
@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
8 Oct 09
going to happen, does happen... yup...
• United States
9 Oct 09
There was one discussion I made that I pleaded that only people with that experience or some sort of words of wisdom reply, but still got a few of the "I don't know, never happened to me." answers. I guess I am saying, that the one you that you mentioned, where a person argued on the condition, at least you knew they actually read it, maybe even thought about it. It seems like there are quite a few that don't read beyond the subject. If even that. There are always a small few who like to argue, and there are some that just have no tact at all.I think my instincts serve me alright at times, though the moment you are not walking the center, you are fair game, in my experience.
@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
9 Oct 09
Well that made me laugh. Yes, some only read the title. Some like to argue. Some have no tact. And if you go into a religion or politics discussion that is especially true. Fortunately most people on here are not like that. :-)
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@aerous (13434)
• Philippines
9 Oct 09
In my case; I don't put any precondition on anything in a comments, repsonse or a discussion because this will compensate the person to participate on it...If I noted that someone will be disrespectful to others or with me. I will always be polite to make the discussion a sort of interesting conversation...Have a nice day!
@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
9 Oct 09
I don't do it seriously but if somebody else did, I would respect it (unless I knew the person wouldn't mind).
@aerous (13434)
• Philippines
11 Oct 09
Okay! That is your way to emphasize more precautionary measure avoiding something that is really hurts sometimes...I appreciate it, my friend. Take care
@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
8 Oct 09
Hi dawnald, I've been known to stick a couple of disclaimers up in the pe section which is meant to be satirical. Some people might take offence for goodness sake at poking a bit of fun at politicians or mad dictators and I don't want the political brigade to come in taking it all so seriously and reducing it all to rants and negative ratings. Just try and keep it all friendly and if you can't bare to make fun of something then another interest is more up the alley, as it were.
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
8 Oct 09
I myself throw a comment in about putting on my flak jacket and i can't recall that any of my semi-politicalish discussions have turned nasty, but I don't put conditions on so often. Disclaimers, yes. I do that...
• United States
9 Oct 09
I found that it just depends on the topic and what people comment on. I also find that the ones who leave the sleazy comments are usually those that are the bots and they are just here to create a havack. I also think that if some one was doing research that might be a reason why they are putting a condition. For example if someone was wanting why women act the way they do on the period then you would only want women answering because a man would not give you an honest answer just there opininon about why they act that way when really only women know why they act the way do on the period. It was just an example. i do think that putting conditions can create problems because you want the best responses but sometimes the best response may be the one that only has one sentance in it and to deprive someone of there opinion based on the fact that you want great responses i think is not fair and is not what myLot wants in its discussion areas. After we are all here to give our opinion.
@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
9 Oct 09
If you put a pre-condition on, you are risking missing a really good response!
@kitty42 (3923)
• United States
8 Oct 09
Hello my friend I would respect the poster, they know what they are looking for when the discussion was posted they have every right to do this, I had a friend yesterday that posted something pertaining to a relationship, I am not in a relationship but asked can I share my feelings about my daughter when she does certain things to work my nerves, the friend responded I would hope she didn't feel disrespected, I don't think it was clear that she only wanted people in relationships to respond but it was a relationship discussion. Great question Thank you.
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
8 Oct 09
I would respect the poster too, though you probably get more interesting responses if you DON'T put restrictions on it!
• United States
8 Oct 09
Hi kitty..How are you doing today? Have you had to change your pants upon arriving at home? LOL...Take care girl...
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@kitty42 (3923)
• United States
8 Oct 09
Hello my friend This is true, guess they don't care about that at the time, personally I would not do that I would always start discussions that everyone could join in the more the merry. Thanks my friend.
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@reinydawn (11643)
• United States
19 Oct 09
How much is that bridge??? Usually I will try to stick with the topic. If it's something that does have a "condition" I will usually tell the person if I'm violating that up front.
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@reinydawn (11643)
• United States
27 Oct 09
AW MAN! I had some awesome plans for that bridge....
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
27 Oct 09
awww sorry.... :-(
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
19 Oct 09
I took the bridge off the market. With all this rain, I thought I might need it after all.
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• Canada
8 Oct 09
Well, I'm clearly too late for the bridge sale... *grin*... but no, I would never put any kind of "conditions" on a discussion that I start. I think that totally defeats the purpose of an online community and it's really not our job to decide ahead of time how people are "allowed" to participate. Everyone here has an opinion and they are welcome to it. It might not be popular. It might not be in line with what the originator of the discussion wants to hear... but, as long as they share it respectfully, then have at it! I don't look at discussions as something we own... they're something we share. Anyone should be welcome to jump in anywhere they like - respond, comment, whatever :) It keeps the conversation flowing and that's to everyone's benefit ultimately. If someone trounces all over the guidelines, there's a system in place to take 'em out. Otherwise, I'm just happy if I start a discussion that's actually of interest to other people and they're inclined to pursue it
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• Canada
9 Oct 09
Oh I agree... things get particularly nasty when people stop debating the issue and start debating the individual. There are plenty of people in the world (and one I unfortunately spoke to on the phone today) that can certainly use a reminder about kindness ;)
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
9 Oct 09
especially when it comes to discussing politics and religion...
@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
8 Oct 09
I don't so much put conditions, but I have had the occasional disclaimer. Usually accompanied by a flak jacket and a request to be kind... People are pretty good, even about really controversial topics when I do that. I've seen some pretty intense firefights on other discussion. Don't mind a good discussion, but I've seen some that have turned really nasty!
@twoey68 (13627)
• United States
9 Oct 09
Well, I really don't like the "pre-conditions" as you call them. I think by directing at a specific group of ppl, it alienates other ppl. Common sense would say that if your discussing say, monthly periods, men probably wouldn't respond b/c they don't know much about it...the same could be said about women and erectile dysfunction. As for being polite, keeping to the topic and reading the topic...again that's common sense. If you get someone who leaves a nasty remark, it's simple enough to contact MyLot and ask them to delete it. For a long time now I've seen different members wanting to, I guess you'd say, control others...how they post, when they post, commenting, siggy's, you name it...these pre-conditions seem to be just another way of controlling who responds and how. Personally, I don't do pre-conditions...if I see a topic and want to respond, I do... [b]~~AT PEACE WITHIN~~ **STAND STRONG IN YOUR BELIEFS**[/b]
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
9 Oct 09
I don't do pre-conditions (other than joking) but I do do disclaimers...
@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
9 Oct 09
hehehe
@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
10 Oct 09
@ANTIQUELADY (36440)
• United States
8 Oct 09
I don't think u should start a discussion on anything & put a pre-condition on it. If u can't handle the answers then why start it.
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
8 Oct 09
I love it!
@ANTIQUELADY (36440)
• United States
9 Oct 09
Good morning Muscles, U see some crazy things on here.I use to love going to one of my favorite categories & just answer a bunch of interesting things but don't find as many interesting things s i use to. Hope u have a great weekend.
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
9 Oct 09
That is pretty crazy...
@leenie50 (3992)
• United States
10 Oct 09
Dawn, I think it all comes down to being respectful and sensitive enough to follow the persons request. Remember, you have the choice to answer or not. I'm afraid we have some very immature people here that use our site to disrupt destroy someones discussions. For me, I think putting conditions that seem unnecessary on a discussion is a waste of time. There are exceptions of course. Leenie
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
11 Oct 09
Yep I agree with you on all points...
@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
11 Oct 09
PS maybe we need a kindergarten lot for some people lol
@Canellita (12029)
• United States
16 Oct 09
Unfortunately in a public forum you are going to get all kinds of people with all kinds of personalities and some will be more mature than others. Showing repspect requires proper upbringing and these days there just isn't enough of that going around.
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
17 Oct 09
(evil grin)
@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
16 Oct 09
Perhaps we need a naughty corner or a kindergarten lot for some of them!
@Canellita (12029)
• United States
16 Oct 09
Now there's an idea! LOL
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