THIS is our President!!

United States
January 25, 2010 6:21am CST
The President Without A Country By Pat Boone "We're no longer a Christian nation." - President barack obama, June 2009 " America has been arrogant." - President barack obama "After 9/11, America didn't always live up to her ideals."- President barack obama "You might say that America is a Muslim nation."- President barack obama, Egypt 2009 Thinking about these and other statements made by the man who wears the title of president. I keep wondering what country he believes he's president of. In one of my very favorite stories, Edward Everett Hale's "The Man without a Country," a young Army lieutenant named Philip Nolan stands condemned for treason during the Revolutionary War, having come under the influence of Aaron Burr. When the judge asks him if he wishes to say anything before sentence is passed, young Nolan defiantly exclaims, "Damn the United States ! I wish I might never hear of the United States again!" The stunned silence in the courtroom is palpable, pulsing. After a long pause, the judge soberly says to the angry lieutenant: "You have just pronounced your own sentence. You will never hear of the United States again.. I sentence you to spend the rest of your life at sea, on one or another of this country's naval vessels - under strict orders that no one will ever speak to you again about the country you have just cursed." And so it was. Philip Nolan was taken away and spent the next 40 years at sea, never hearing anything but an occasional slip of the tongue about America. The last few pages of the story, recounting Nolan's dying hours in his small stateroom - now turned into a shrine to the country he fore swore - never fail to bring me to tears. And I find my own love for this dream, this miracle called America , refreshed and renewed. I know how blessed and unique we are. But reading and hearing the audacious, shocking statements of the man who was recently elected our president - a young black man living the impossible dream of millions of young Americans, past and present, black and white - I want to ask him, "Just what country do you think you're president of?" You surely can't be referring to the United States of America , can you? America is emphatically a Christian nation, and has been from its inception! Seventy percent of her citizens identify themselves as Christian. The Declaration of Independence and our Constitution were framed, written and ratified by Christians. It's because this was, and is, a nation built on and guided by Judeo-Christian biblical principles that you, sir, have had the inestimable privilege of being elected her president. You studied law at Harvard, didn't you, sir? You taught constitutional law in Chicago ? Did you not ever read the statement of John Jay, the first Chief Justice of the Supreme Court and an author of the landmark "Federalist Papers": "Providence has given to our people the choice of their rulers - and it is the duty, as well as the privilege and interest of our Christian nation - to select and prefer Christians for their rulers"? In your studies, you surely must have read the decision of the Supreme Court in 1892: "Our lives and our institutions must necessarily be based upon and embody the teachings of the Redeemer of mankind. It is impossible that it should be otherwise; and in this sense and to this extent our civilization and our institutions are emphatically Christian." Did your professors have you skip over all the high-court decisions right up till the mid 1900's that echoed and reinforced these views and intentions? Did you pick up the history of American jurisprudence only in 1947, when for the first time a phrase coined by Thomas Jefferson about a "wall of separation between church and state" was used to deny some specific religious expression - contrary to Jefferson ' s intent with that statement? Or, wait a minute . were your ideas about America 's Christianity formed during the 20 years you were a member of the Trinity United Church of Christ under your pastor, Jeremiah Wright? Is that where you got the idea that " America is no longer a Christian nation"? Is this where you, even as you came to call yourself a Christian, formed the belief that " America has been arrogant"? Even if that's the understandable explanation of your damning of your country and accusing the whole nation (not just a few military officials trying their best to keep more Americans from being murdered by jihadists) of "not always living up to her ideals," how did you come up with the ridiculous, alarming notion that we might be "considered a Muslim nation"? Is it because there are some 2 million or more Muslims living here, trying to be good Americans? Out of a current population of over 300 million, 70 percent of whom are Christians? Does that make us, by any rational definition, a "Muslim nation"? Why are we not, then, a "Chinese nation"? A "Korean nation"? Even a "Vietnamese nation"? There are even more of these distinct groups in America than Muslims. And if the distinction you're trying to make is a religious one, why is America not "a Jewish nation"? There's actually a case to be made for the latter, because our Constitution - and the success of our Revolution and founding - owe a deep debt to our Jewish brothers. Have you stopped to think what an actual Muslim America would be like? Have you ever really spent much time in Iran ? Even in Egypt ? You, having been instructed in Islam as a kid at a Muslim school in Indonesia and saying you still love the call to evening prayers, can surely picture our nation founded on the Quran, not the Judeo-Christian Bible, and living under Shariah law. Can't you? You do recall Muhammad's directives [Surah 9:5,73] to "break the cross" and "kill the infidel"? It seems increasingly and painfully obvious that you are more influenced by your upbringing and questionable education than most suspected.. If you consider yourself the president of a people who are "no longer Christian," who have "failed to live up to our ideals," who "have been arrogant," and might even be "considered Muslim" - you are president of a country most Americans don't recognize. Could it be you are a president without a country? Any comments? : http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/patboone.asp
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13 responses
@Latrivia (2878)
• United States
25 Jan 10
He thinks he the president of America, and he's got things right. It's not his fault if some Americans refuse to see things for the way they are. We aren't a Christian nation. America, or rather, Americans have been arrogant. America DIDN'T live up to her ideals after 9-11. We do have more Muslims than a lot of other countries. Oh, and the correct quote is:"And one of the points I want to make is, is that if you actually took the number of Muslims Americans, we’d be one of the largest Muslim countries in the world. " I think Mr. Boone needs to drop the unwarranted righteous indignation schtick and check his facts.
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• United States
25 Jan 10
More Obamaloonies showing slavish devotion!
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@Latrivia (2878)
• United States
25 Jan 10
I guess that means you have no disagreement. Cool beans, I'm glad we agree.
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@shamsta19 (3224)
• United States
25 Jan 10
Thank you
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@RobtheRock (2433)
• United States
25 Jan 10
According to Snopes, the source of the documentation could not be located. I can see where Boone would criticize the president "for not sufficiently acknowledging America's Christian heritage." But there is a lot of "heritage" that is not Christian. Slavery, what was done to the Indians, how many folks got rich off of the backs of the less fortunate, even today -- that is not Christian and yet many of the perpetrators were so called Christians. Our big casinos -- just think how many mafia members put out hits on people or killed people and then went to church on Sunday morning. There is clearly nothing Christian about that. And they will all get their rewards, but it won't be what they are looking for. But we do have the Christian ideals, if nothing else. But the hatred, the deceit, the greed, lying to invade countries when there are other motives (Vietnam and Iraq) -- there's nothing Christian about that.
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• United States
26 Jan 10
The link to the discussion topic was faulty. I did post the correct link on responses 1,4 and 6. However for the 4th time I will post the correct link again.
• United States
26 Jan 10
http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/patboone.asp
@Lakota12 (42600)
• United States
25 Jan 10
Oh my I didnt know you did this one I also posted just a mininut ago. Well Dont know now how to take mine off. and good minds think alot huh?
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@Lakota12 (42600)
• United States
26 Jan 10
lol ok and yes I agree the more that read it the better1
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• United States
25 Jan 10
Yes they do! LOL. I sent you an email with this letter so you must have read it. I would not worry about it as your discussion may reach other members and as far as I am concerned the more people who read it the better.
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26 Jan 10
I have seen! here it is! : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hi-V_ilJu0w
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@jennybianca (12912)
• Australia
26 Jan 10
After reading your discussion and many of the responses, I am very pleased that in Australia, the Government is entirely separate from religion. Same as our State Schools. That doesn't mean to say that the members of our governmentare not religious, in fact I imagine many are Christians. I "think" they pray at the beginning of Parliament, but this is not compulsory. In Courts, we don't have to swear on the Bible anymore. I don't know what the percentage of Muslims and other religions in Australia are, and we have had our racial problems. "Religion is Separate from the State". That is the way I like it. By the way, after reading some responses and replies, Im curious now.. exactly what religion, if any, does Obama follow?
• United States
26 Jan 10
I agree that Religion should be separate from State. The latest in America is a new dollar coin in which "In God We Trust" has been removed. I made a comment regarding Obama religion to the response above yours. It should give you a fair idea of his branch of religion. Personally I think he is of the Islamic faith as he was raised as a Muslim. It was also pretty obvious how he deferred to Islam during his famous tour of apologies.
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@jennybianca (12912)
• Australia
26 Jan 10
I read all of response 11, and for the first time became aware that Obama probably is Muslim. He was brought up in Indonesia, had a Muslim name at one time. As I understand it, Muslims are damned forever if they change Faiths. So it does bring up interesting political issues regarding Obamas views on situations. Very Interesting indeed. Good Discussion.
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@blummus (451)
• United States
27 Jan 10
The president has said he's a Christian. That, of course, covers a lot of ground, most or all of which I have no particular interest in exploring. What his religious practice is now or has been in the past is of little interest to me. What matters is what he does while in office.
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@shamsta19 (3224)
• United States
25 Jan 10
America is no longer just a Christian nation. This country is made up of people of many different races, creeds and religions. It is arrogant to assume such. If Obama had been Muslim, how would that have made him unqualified for office? And what does religion have to do with politics anyway? We are supposed to have "separation of church and state" remember? The Federalist Papers were written during a time when Slavery was rampant in America so does that mean we should re-institute that as well? I love hearing this rhetoric about Islam as well, it only further shows so many people's ignorance about an entire religion. You give examples of groups of people here in the US (Chinese, Korean, Vietnamese) and use them in the same context as a religion. How can you classify people by race AND religion. This is not feasible as religion is not confounded to one group or race. I am sure that within these three ethnic groups alone we'd find more than one religious group. We are not a Korean nation, nor or we a Christian or Islamic nation we are America. America is made up of who knows how many races, religious groups and creeds of people. To continue labeling us as just a Christian nation is just unethical. [i] "Is it because there are some 2 million or more Muslims living here, trying to be good Americans? Out of a current population of over 300 million, 70 percent of whom are Christians?"[/i] What do you mean "trying to be good Americans?" As if a Christian is the only good thing in America? With the Bible in hand the first Anglo settlers came to this country and slaughtered millions, way more than any "jihadist" (and thats not even a word), and yet we continue to stand behind the banner of Christianity? (Native Americans probably thought we were terrorists do you think?) This country needs some neutrality. Religion and politics do not mix. You quote from the Quraan as well. I commend you on your knowledge of Quraanic verse but you do know when then Quraan was written they were not speaking of America right? This book was written long before America even existed so how do we equate Islamic verses as an attack on America? Yes there are those who, under the banner of Islam commit dreadful acts but we have nuts like that in every religion. Religion does not make one a terrorist. Lets us also remember when the Revolutionary War was going on, American settlers were considered "terrorists" as well. Your view of a Muslim America is also inaccurate. In Iran and countries in the Middle East, they have yet to adopt to our western culture and because of that how can we judge their beliefs to be wrong? Maybe we're wrong, ever think of that? Of course you didn't because we're Americans and we are always right. Everyone should take an example from us and try to live like us because we are the greatest country in the world right? That is called arrogance. American has been arrogant with this attitude just as you have. And we can no longer be a "Christian" nation and represent this country accurately. I would love to see Obama's statement in it's entirety and see what context it was used in. "..not just a few military officials trying their best to keep more Americans from being murdered by jihadists" I am more worried about our own government after they sold us that fallacy on 9/11. Let us not forget the Tuskegee Syphilis Experiments in the 30's through 70's. Our governments foreign policies have been "murderously meddlesome" to say the least. This is the same country that allowed scientists to produce the AIDS virus as a biological weapon in 1969. Yes we are Americans but this country is not innocent. I bet they talk about us In the Middle East like we are the Terrorists. how can we label any one terrorists when we have nuclear missiles ready to strike? We have long been arrogant, and we as citizens have long been fooled by our own governing parties. Bottom line I understand what you are saying but you have taken offense at this man for saying these things for what reason? To defend your religion? And again I say what does religion have to do with politics? [i]"In your studies, you surely must have read the decision of the Supreme Court in 1892: "Our lives and our institutions must necessarily be based upon and embody the teachings of the Redeemer of mankind. It is impossible that it should be otherwise; and in this sense and to this extent our civilization and our institutions are emphatically Christian." [/i] Well that is downright unconstitutional,unethical and prejudiced, and if we are going to live by the law of of the 1800's how are we going to judge persons in the Middle East for staying true to their customs? I don't know of the numbers of Muslim in the US but Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world, largest as well. Seeing as we moving into this "New World Order" we better get with the program then I guess..
@shamsta19 (3224)
• United States
25 Jan 10
It is not even a possible reality in America...
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@shamsta19 (3224)
• United States
25 Jan 10
And either way America will never be an "Islamic nation"
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• Philippines
25 Jan 10
well, i just hope this guy that wrote the article is just being paranoid. because it's unacceptable for us if US becomes a Muslim Nation, just imagine a lot of americans having a lot of wives and womens right will be strip off. that's unthinkable. .
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@veromar (1453)
• Argentina
26 Jan 10
Does anybody REALLY care what Pat Boone's opinions or thoughts are? Do people even know who he is and why his opinion SHOULD matter? I personally could care less. I'm curious to know exactly what the definition of "christianity" is, to those of you who insist that the U.S. is a "christian" nation. Those who profess christianity seem to be fairly selective in what they do and don't live by when it comes to the basic life principles as outlined in the bible. Picking and choosing which commandments, beatitudes, acts, whatever suits their aim and purpose at the moment. In my opinion, if the U.S. was such a "christian nation" there shouldn't be hate crimes. There shouldn't be people starving, living homeless in the streets. Citizens should not be used as guinea pigs in medical trials (as another responder pointed out my referring to the Tuskegee "experiments"). Orphans, mentally ill, elderly....all have been used by the FDA and various organizations to "test" new theories or "medicines". Yes. WE, the greatest country in the world, the USofA, created AIDS, swine flu and several other....viruses....in our attempts to create ways to control. At what point did WE become the world's police force? Who decided that? It is bothersome to me just how much WE meddle in other nation's dealings, trying to shove our democratic christian way of life down their throats. Arrogant? Is there a stronger word? Because that's what I'd use. Every military action we participate is in the name of "freedom" and "democracy". Bringing our ideals into other countries who may or may not want them, but we're the "best country in the world" so who wouldn't want it? If people would actually take the time to research the real "why's" we are involved in such manner of things, I think they'd have a rather rude awakening....if they care to take off their rose-colored glasses. I've been living outside the U.S. for about 10 years now. I can tell you this, if you are an American citizen and have never spent any length of time in another country, you're merely spouting the patriotic propaganda we were schooled in. I love the U.S. Don't get me wrong. It's my country. My homeland. But, it's not the shining beacon of hope it once was. It's our own fault for not standing up to our politicians as we have been afforded the right to do through our Constitution.
• United States
26 Jan 10
I am a naturalized America Citizen and I have lived for many years in many different countries. Including 4 years in North Africa under Islam and I can assure you I never want to live ever again as a woman under Islamic rule.
@veromar (1453)
• Argentina
26 Jan 10
Whiteheather, you are certainly part of the minority when it comes to Americans spending any real time outside of the U.S. Less than 12% of the U.S. population even have a passport. At any rate, I've never lived under Islamic law so I can't comment on that. However, there are several religions within the U.S. that have oppressive doctrines regarding the rights of women. Keep in mind, all forms of religion were founded and started by men. Keeping women subservient to varying degrees is evidenced in nearly all of them.
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@peavey (16936)
• United States
25 Jan 10
Reading this and then some of the responses by social liberals brought tears to my eyes. The president without a country has followers without a country, too. They don't know what they are missing... America was and is great and will continue to be until/unless these people destroy her, which they seem to be trying to do.
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• United States
25 Jan 10
Amen to that! Thank you!
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@blummus (451)
• United States
26 Jan 10
Quite the contrary, Peavey. This is not and never has been a Christian country. It was founded upon religious and irreligious dissent, and the proportion of people willing to admit that they do *not* belong to one of the major Christian sects is growing. Like it or not, the Muslim in the mosque, the Jew and Buddhist in their respective temples and the Pagan in the grove have the same rights to assemble and worship their Gods as they see Them that you do. This is our country as much as it is yours. "We the People" means ALL the People.
• United States
15 May 10
Destruction of any country comes from within. When we look back on so many of the world's greatest governments, cultures and populations( e.g. Rome or Greece) what destroys a nation is moral decay. I don't believe that any one president has the power to change the belief structure of an entire country. At least, I pray that that is true. That is not what the founding fathers had in mind for the office of president, i.e. the 3 basic arms of our countrys ruling bodies. They wrote into our constitution the many checks and balances that they thought would be needed. I am sure that they could not imagine a world like ours where moral decay is rampant and racism seems to have had little change from 100 yrs ago. As we appear to be withdrawing our support of Israel it makes me shudder. God will not be mocked. Take a look in the Christian Bible to see what will happen to the nation who withdraws their support from Israel. I offer this statement just as an example of what we have done. When we look back on our history we should have learned from it but it does not appear as if we have done so. Whenever there is a finacial crisis we do find outselves distracted from what is going on at the highest levels of our govering bodies. Maybe this is the time that we should be most alert. May God continue to bless America!
@laglen (19759)
• United States
25 Jan 10
Very well said. I think you hit the nail on the head. I to question how somebody who studied the Constitution could dome to these conclusions. I have gone back and reread it wondering what I keep missing. His wife has clearly "never been proud of America" before. From middle school civics class I have been proud. I have been proud of our Republic, our flag, our Constitution, our forefathers and specifically our military. The fact alone that we have a voluntary military and still the mightiest should be a clue. The rights and privileges that we enjoy everyday are the direct result of the Constitution. If we are such a bad country, why are people risking life and limb to get in?
@shamsta19 (3224)
• United States
25 Jan 10
A lot of us aren't "proud" Americans because we know we have been bamboozled by our our government my friend. Some of us just haven't seen that good side of America yet. There are people who are so much less fortunate than you and I. As a whole the average White Americans households net worth in America is about $30000 while the average Black family is only 6000 dollars. Needless to say some of us just aren't the proud gung ho go USA types. I know that may be difficult to comprehend but it is a fact of life my friend.
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• United States
25 Jan 10
http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/patboone.asp
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@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
26 Jan 10
It seems that Obama is engaged in a bit of wishful thinking. If America were not a Christian nation, that is a nation founded on Christian principals, then he will think it is all right to pass laws that go against the Bible, and to take away human rights for many. Also look at who Obama chose as his czars and look at w2hat they represent. All their ideals are anti-Christian, sodomy, homosexual rights, pre born baby killing, killing of the weak and elderly. Even the health insurance bill will deny the right to live for the weak and will encourage the elderly and the weak to consider euthanasia for themselves. and for those who have critical diseases, forget about help. Only a non-Christian 'president' and I rather suspect that he is not qualified, can think of such things. And with so many Americans enamored by him, he can say "America is no longer a Christian nation," and the laws that before protected religion and traditional families and esp. Christians will be done away with.
@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
30 Jan 10
That is so true. If Obama were a real Christian or even one in name only and loved America, he would have had his family leave that racist preacher and perhaps write a letter to his superior saying that he was not following the church's doctrine. I fear that America will be greatly changed for the worse unless something is done. I also think too many people are afraid if they say something against him, that they will be accused of racism. For those people, I think the best thing to do is to get copies of Obama's policies and associations before he become president and after so that they can repute the call of being a racist.
@shamsta19 (3224)
• United States
30 Jan 10
Hitler came under the false banner of Christianity as well. Hmmm..
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@shamsta19 (3224)
• United States
30 Jan 10
None of these guys are Christians anyway, they are occultists.
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@dragon54u (31636)
• United States
25 Jan 10
I think a lot of people have taken this country for granted for too long. 9/11 woke us up a bit but then we slipped back into comfortable complacency, taking our freedom for granted and expecting it, not appreciating it. This country is the greatest on earth! This administration is awakening us once again and we won't go back to sleep this time. At least I hope we won't.
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• United States
25 Jan 10
I certainly will not.
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• United States
26 Jan 10
To quote the title of a Laura Ingraham book...shut up and sing, Pat. Shut up and sing. I remember back during the Bush administration Natalie Maines of the Dixie Chicks said, during a concert, that she was ashamed the president was from Texas. The uproar was immediate. On the other side of the political spectrum, Pat Boone says anything he wants about Democrats and you guys just cheer him on. Sauce for the goose, Pat.
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• Philippines
25 Jan 10
No way, How can he say something like when they're are so many Christians in the US. this isn't good at all you know. i remember him saying an Islamic greeting when he went to egypt. I don't know what's up with his mind. for me, he's still taking a great risk in trying to meddle with the extremist accepting them with open arms. . It won't be good for the entire western community you know since US has the largest influence through out the world.
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• United States
25 Jan 10
It is very obvious that Obama's personal loyalties are with Islam much as he will try to hide it. The Christian faith he admits to are the teachings of the racially hatred rantings of an American preacher whom he also admits to being his mentor!
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26 Jan 10
All i can say just for the benefit of every one here is. OBAMA s*ck balls. too bad people had to vote for him, now he's becoming more of a dictator in his American Empire. : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNU8PPw0WfM
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@epicure35 (2814)
• United States
29 Jan 10
Thanks for your frank discussion. But, be very sure that this is NOT Barack Obama's country. His allegiance is clearly Muslim and his hatred of the US painfully evident. If you check Atlah.org, you will see Pastor James David Manning speak out about the usurper and specifically that his Columbia University degree was purchased for him (paid for by Arab money, influenced by Charlie Rangel and Percy Sutton). Manning contends that BO never attended Columbia, but was, in fact, in Pakistan and Afghanistan, training in Al Quaeda terror camps during those years.(1981-83) It is widely known and reported that he was in Pakistan in 1981; no US citizen could travel there with a US passport. Rev. Manning is an exceptional and amazingly bright and brave man. He makes the very valid point that, not only is the BO an illegal alien, but also an Al Quaeda operative, sitting in our White House. Perhaps you heard O say there were 57 states - the reference was actually to the 57 Muslim nations to which he owes allegiance and in whose name he commits treason and jihad in our country. Americans should be ashamed of their stupidity in not learning the truth and worshiping a man who intends to destroy them.
• United States
29 Jan 10
All the signs were there when Obama started campaigning but it that his supporters adhere to the "love is blind" saying. Thank heavens I have the intelligence not to be taken in by his glib lies. I find it very revealing how the Obamas celebrate Christmas: There's one common Christmas practice not on the First Family's schedule: a visit to Christmas Eve church services. Church, in fact, has been a surprisingly tough issue for the Obamas. They resigned their membership with Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago in 2008 after Obama renounced the church's controversial former pastor, Jeremiah Wright. And while the First Family intended to find a local church to attend when they moved to Washington, concerns about crowds and displacing regular worshippers has prevented them from finding a new religious home during their first year here. The Obamas have attended Sunday services in Washington three times this year — once at the predominantly African-American 19th Street Baptist Church, and twice at St. John's Episcopal Church across Lafayette Square from the White House. : http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1949879,00.html