Dont make me pull out my Bible! You'll be sorry!

@laglen (19780)
United States
February 19, 2010 8:12am CST
This is where we have come - Teacher cries 'hate crime' over Bible left on desk 'I can't believe the cruelty and ignorance of people sometimes' Read the article and tell me what you think. I think the teacher is way out of line and it is ridiculous that this can happen - an an elementary school no less. Cling to your guns and religion kids! Your on the right track! http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=125374 This just shows how powerful the Bible can be!
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@Rollo1 (16685)
• Boston, Massachusetts
19 Feb 10
I don't see how this is a "hate crime" other than the teacher "hates" the Bible. What is clear is that this is more than just a case of a clash of religions or curriculum. Based on the remarks she and her friends made about students on her Facebook page, and the fact that she gave them lower grades just for being Christian, indicate that her prejudice against the people she called "rednecks" and "ignorant" made her class a hostile environment for those kids. Perhaps if she hadn't been so dismissive of their ideas and beliefs she might have forged a productive relationship with her students. Sounds to me like she was behaving very immaturely. There's an excuse for 13 year olds to act like 13 year olds, but none for the teacher to act like a middle-schooler.
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@laglen (19780)
• United States
19 Feb 10
I agree, and teachers are supposed to lead by example. What was she teaching them?
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@jb78000 (15173)
19 Feb 10
presumably science by that report on the burble. sounds like the ahem teacher was clueless and decided to have a tantrum elsewhere. that is not how you deal with children trying to wind you up.
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@laglen (19780)
• United States
19 Feb 10
exactly. There are better ways to handle this.
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@Latrivia (2889)
• United States
20 Feb 10
The article doesn't give enough information on the background. Did the kids know she wasn't Christian and were harassing her about it? Did a parent put them up to it? Were they just doing it as a good natured prank, or were they sincere? That said, children can be unpredictable, and it's our jobs as adults to be the big person. It was far from a hate crime, and her reaction to the incident was immature. Even if the kids were doing it to harrass her, it is not her job to "shame" them. The kids were wrong to do what they did, and they do deserve punishment, but so does she for blowing it out of proportion and acting unprofessional about the incident.
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@laglen (19780)
• United States
24 Feb 10
I agree with your response 100%
@Wizzywig (7859)
20 Feb 10
I think she should consider herself very lucky if thats the worst thing she's ever had left on her desk! She's obviously been very forthcoming and vocal in her condemnation of anything Christian and I'd say that leaving the Bible there was a typical schoolkid thing to do... if she'd said she hated spiders, some joker would probably have left a large realistic plastic one on her desk "Cruelty & ignorance"??? How would she describe being punished for asking theological questions?? It would be cruelty if they'd smacked her over the head with the Bible...I take it they didn't??
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@laglen (19780)
• United States
20 Feb 10
I dont think they did, but I would like to!
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@Latrivia (2889)
• United States
20 Feb 10
No, they just harassed her - which I guess is okay when the one's harassing others are Christians.
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@Wizzywig (7859)
20 Feb 10
Its never ok to harrass people irrespective of one's faith but it sounds like she had done her fair share of harrassing and, as you say in your comment, they are kids and she is the adult.
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@jb78000 (15173)
19 Feb 10
'neurotic teacher had a tantrum about pupils teasing'? is this a story? if anybody can build it into a quality conspiracy then then they deserve a prize
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@jb78000 (15173)
19 Feb 10
one carrot (only slightly mouldy) to the stalker
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@jb78000 (15173)
19 Feb 10
thea is wandering around just now too, and has no slipppers
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@laglen (19780)
• United States
19 Feb 10
didnt say a conspiracy, I am just drawing attention to the way that this teacher handled the situation. Contrary to what you may have heard, touching a Bible, no matter your beliefs, will not make you burst into flames.
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@Barb42 (4216)
• United States
20 Feb 10
The teacher was way out of line. AND, sometimes it pays not to have a social site online where you can air your anger! That can lose you a job or even keep you from getting one. Sounds like she isn't a Christian and has a hate for God and the Bible. Hopefully, they will fire her and not let her teach anymore. She and her friends in into hate crimes, but this wasn't one of them.
@ClassyCat (1214)
• United States
21 Feb 10
There's an old saying: "strain at a knat, and swallow a camel" Sounds like this is one of those cases. People get all bent out of shape over the term: "separation of church and state," and it's taken completely out of context. It is not WE, but the government and it's long arm of the school system that should BUTT OUT! There are much more serious things to deal with in life, than a Bible on a desk, or read in a schho, or songs sung. Riciculous! That's what it is.
@ClassyCat (1214)
• United States
21 Feb 10
OOOOOPS - TYPING TOO FAST AGAIN lol (schho) SHOULD READ: SCHOOL, AND (Riciculous) SHOULD READ: RIDICULOUS - SORRY ABOUT THOSE ERRORS
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@Barb42 (4216)
• United States
21 Feb 10
Don't worry about making typos. I understood exactly what you meant. You have it right. They have taken the quote 'separation of church and state' and run with it like someone taking a quote from the Bible and making a religious doctrine from it - totally wrong! The government does need to bow out, but there are so many pressure groups out there wanting the Bible/God/prayer out of the schools (even lots of christians) that this will continue to be a problem. So many are afraid that another religion might come in and try the same thing and it might force your child to listen to something you don't approve of. I grew up with the Bible in our schools, morning devotion over the intercom by a student, and I'm still here. It never hurt me or encouraged me in any way. It was just a part of life, and I think all children would benefit from listening to the WORD once a day. I honestly believe that His Word brings a peace on the day. At least, it seems that way to me. Instead of belly aching about how bad these kids were, she should thank HER GOD that they aren't trying to do other things in the class room!!
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@blummus (451)
• United States
20 Feb 10
From the article, it sounds as if the matter was overblown; certainly, posting such negative opinions on the Net was a huge mistake. If she feels so negatively about her students and their parents, she should have set any comments about them to 'private' or 'friends only'. As it is, she has taken an incident which could have been handled with some tact -- I hope -- and she's let it turn into a major issue which may well cost her her job and possibly her safety in the town. I will say this. I think the kid was out of line; I dislike the mixing of religion and state, no matter whose religion is involved. At the same time, the issue could have been handled differently.
@laglen (19780)
• United States
24 Feb 10
I think if she hates the kids so much, she should rethink her profession.
@elly1384 (353)
• Bulgaria
19 Feb 10
hi there i think the Bible is not so magestic that you describe it and my opinion is that the Bible is way of life of ancient people who didn`t have so many information that we have and explore today and in the time of Bible the one truth is it
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@laglen (19780)
• United States
19 Feb 10
And I respect your opinion. My issue is the way in which this teacher handled the matter. I think the idea of the Bible in schools has been settled. But as a teacher, she should have turned that into a learning moment.
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@mjcookie (2274)
• Philippines
19 Feb 10
Whew! She got really offended. I guess she is an agnostic/atheist. I hope she realizes that it's not her students who are ridiculous, but her.
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@laglen (19780)
• United States
19 Feb 10
Gives whole new meaning to Bible thumping!
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• Canada
23 Feb 10
The Bible is only as powerful as PEOPLE make it. The Bible was written by people, for people. Show me some stone tablets, or other things that God, Jesus, and the others, have written on, and I will believe that certain words have actually come from them. The bible has been so distorted over the years, it's hard to tell what's right anymore.
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@laglen (19780)
• United States
24 Feb 10
I know what you mean. I just read it myself and take it at face value