Are your actions aligned with your beliefs?

@polachicago (18716)
United States
February 25, 2010 7:27am CST
This discussion is inspired by Dr. Becker’s section “healthy pets” from Dr. Mercola website. Dr. Becker wrote: ”If you object to factory farm practices but continue to buy factory farmed animal products at your local grocery store, you’re supporting the industry and your actions are out of alignment with your beliefs.” My friend is against cheap products made in China, but she buys everything in Walmart. Do you know any people who are out of alignment with their beliefs?
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@Lakota12 (42600)
• United States
25 Feb 10
Well we stopped shopping walmart thats for sure! as for dog food am in hopes that iam getting it from America.
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@polachicago (18716)
• United States
25 Feb 10
I buy only American products to support American economy. If I have to buy less, it is OK with me. I cook for my dogs, overall it is cheaper than dry food form local pet store, and safe for sure.
@polachicago (18716)
• United States
25 Feb 10
I don't give for my dogs table food, they have separate meal prepared without salt. Plus, they eat meat and I don't. I am happy they are not asking for food when people are at the table.
@Lakota12 (42600)
• United States
25 Feb 10
Dont give our dogs table food this one might eat it tho shge eats every thing form plastic cups paper and drywall. Anything she can get ahold of and ya think you have it up and out of her way and she will get to it somehow!
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
25 Feb 10
Yeah, I guess I buy too much processed food, sometimes my meat is 'factory, though I try to get organic when I can, we use too much energy,etc. I've slowly made some changes, but we're not all the way there...
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@polachicago (18716)
• United States
25 Feb 10
I am searching for local farmers to get cheaper organic products. During the spring and summer I will travel to Michigan or Wisconsin to buy food directly from local farmers. I don't eat meat, so my search is all about fruits and vegetables.
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@polachicago (18716)
• United States
25 Feb 10
they are going down. I have one local store that sell organic at the price that is almost at the same price as conventional. for example: organic carrots are $79 per bunch, non organic $69 Similar with apples. The difference per 3 pound bag is an about 30 cents.
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
25 Feb 10
Maybe if more and more people buy organic, prices will come down...
@zandi458 (28102)
• Malaysia
25 Feb 10
I am a good example of people who like quality goods but go for those china reject goods which are dirt cheap but no quality at all. Our country has become one of China's dumping ground for their cheap, unsold non quality products.
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@polachicago (18716)
• United States
25 Feb 10
I thought that we have that problem only in America....but it seems to be global, right?
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@polachicago (18716)
• United States
25 Feb 10
Unfortunately, people in USA are not rich as the rest of the world believes...means many people have not much left in disposable income after paying all bills... Many of my friends have medical bills for thousands and they may have to pay for for the next 10-15 years...my best friend has 15 thousand to pay, so he pays $100 per month...go figure...you have money in USA only if you are not sick.
@zandi458 (28102)
• Malaysia
25 Feb 10
How come they can penetrate the American market? I thought the Americans are quality conscious compared to us where people are more on pricing and go for quantity rather than quality.
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@ANTIQUELADY (36440)
• United States
25 Feb 10
I had rather buy everything made in the u.s.a. but it's almost impossible to do here. I live in a small town & wal-mart is about the only place u have to shop other than a dollor store.
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@polachicago (18716)
• United States
25 Feb 10
Oh, no! I wouldn't be happy if I have only Walmart around...
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@polachicago (18716)
• United States
26 Feb 10
@ANTIQUELADY (36440)
• United States
25 Feb 10
The bad thing about that is i hate wal-mart.
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@topffer (42156)
• France
27 Feb 10
I am : I try to buy only sustainable products, and I know that I don't do it every time. I signed and will sign all petitions against ill-treatment of animals, and I'm still eating foie gras. Nobody is perfect.
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@polachicago (18716)
• United States
27 Feb 10
foie gras should be banned...awful.....
@polachicago (18716)
• United States
27 Feb 10
no, knowing about torture of an animal? never and vegetarians don't eat meat
@topffer (42156)
• France
27 Feb 10
For me, it's delicious : matter of culture and upbringing. Have you try it with a good Sauternes ?
@rosegardens (3034)
• United States
26 Feb 10
I do not like Walmart for a few reasons. The cheap goods, the pressure they have placed on suppliers to lower their prices to what Walmart wants to pay for them, the fact they end up pushing out the mom and pop stores in the areas the Walmart is placed. However, because of economic reasons, their prices cannot be beat in many items so I do shop there frequently. All the gift cards I get online from my programs are for Walmart.
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@polachicago (18716)
• United States
26 Feb 10
I have ben there twice and I will never come back. The quality is so low, it may fall apart the next day. Second, everything is made in china. I just limit my needs and I rather buy at the second hand than new in Walmart. I will not support their practices. I understand that for many people this is easy choice, but if we continue to live this way, we may pay big time in the future (if we are not paying our price already)
• United States
26 Feb 10
I wish financially I were better off to be able to go to other stores and purchase stuff. Though there are a few that do have good end of season sales that beat Walmarts price. Unfortunately one of those stores moved out and the other one is in a big mall that gets a lot of traffic, so the good clothes will be gone by the time they get to the clearance sales. :|
@DeenaD (2684)
• United States
26 Feb 10
Ideally, our actions should be aligned with our beliefs. But sometimes they are not, which I think is simply due to the fact that we are imperfect people who sometimes don't live up to our own ideals. I still think that we need to keep high ideals regardless.
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@polachicago (18716)
• United States
26 Feb 10
I couldn't agree with you more. We should keep it high....
• India
26 Feb 10
I think your friend’s behavoiur is a typical reflection of the contradiction between our compulsions and our choices. I think its becoming a global phenomenon that most of us are against cheap mass-produced Chinese produce…not only are these poor in quality with no guarantee whatsoever, they are slowly but steadily killing the indigenous industry. Now quality does not come cheap and one cant expect cheap products to be good in endurance…all this is fine but then comes the economics of it all. In these tough times can we really afford to stick by our own industry even at our personal cost. Suppose I’m buying a toy for my growing child and I know the longevity of the toy will be as it is a few months max…if I have the option I’ll definitely buy the cheaper version than the home-made more expensive one. Recession and devaluation of money compels me to go for cheaper options though in my heart I may chose to be with my country. Similarly, practical situations dictate how true we can remain to our beliefs…its very very hard and sometimes foolhardy too.
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@polachicago (18716)
• United States
26 Feb 10
maybe I am the rebel, but I go with quality, because it last longer. I try to eliminate my needs for the basic.
@mipen2006 (5528)
• Australia
26 Feb 10
Hi pola, unfortunately I'm not in a position financially now to even look at anything but the cheapest. I know this is not good, and if, and when my situation changes changes, so will my buying habits. Having said that, it is almost impossible in Australia to buy a souviner that isn't made in China. Now I think that is disgusting.
@polachicago (18716)
• United States
26 Feb 10
global invasion of poor quality....I understand the reason beyond, but at least we try to keep up with standards...
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@polachicago (18716)
• United States
26 Feb 10
yes, easy to say, right?
@mipen2006 (5528)
• Australia
26 Feb 10
Unfortunately, our budget doesn't always allow us to buy the quality we would like.
@hora_fugit (5862)
• India
28 Feb 10
I support ban on poly-bags... but I would rather get one instead of carrying goods in my hands. The government here has imposed a ban, still almost no one keeps paper bags. Not much choice! I won't tell of others, me is enough!
@polachicago (18716)
• United States
28 Feb 10
I have my own washable bags with me when going shipping.
@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
26 Feb 10
As far as the idea of buying any product from China, whether cheapie stuff like in a dollar store or a major store like Walmart, the one problem? Just TRY and find anything made in the US...I mean when was the last time you even saw Made in USA for a simple thing for a light bulb? I might be a little contradictory myself. You know me and what a fierce animal lover I am and activist, I abhor fur and wouldn't even wear faux fur as it's been shown that faux fur isn't necessarily "faux"--yet, I do wear leather/suede and since I do Native American themed crafts I often use suede--so yes guess I'm out of alignment with my beliefs there
@polachicago (18716)
• United States
26 Feb 10
unfortunately, items made in USA are to find mostly at the second hand....and many are vintage by now... but don't be surprised, new trend emerged, hand made single items are hot they predict the trend to grow.
@dragon54u (31636)
• United States
1 Mar 10
You're describing me, to a certain extent. In the past year I've tried to buy American and also buy humanely treated animal products. That is very difficult, especially the animal products. I don't like the hormones and stuff used in the animals and I try to buy only free range meat but it's very expensive. As for American goods, they are rather hard to find and much more expensive than foreign goods. I'm on a fixed income and I can't afford to practice what I belief too much economically.
@polachicago (18716)
• United States
1 Mar 10
I do understand the reason. I am on the budget myself. I don't eat meat, so maybe it is much easier for me. As far as made in USA, I try not to support mass production of the junk products. I buy (often second hand) everything that is made in USA or in Europe.
@quita88 (3715)
• United States
26 Feb 10
Yes, many. Today we wanted to buy two dog beds and we looked them over and my husband said, whoa! one is made in China and the other in the US. We bought US made! I don't think we are out of alignment if we pay attention to our products. I go to WalMart but check labels.
@polachicago (18716)
• United States
26 Feb 10
I promised myself not to buy cheap anymore. My mother used to say that she is not rich, so she has to buy only high quality items, because they last longer.
@quita88 (3715)
• United States
26 Feb 10
Agreed!!! 100% But always go US :)
@vandana7 (98942)
• India
25 Feb 10
Hi polachicago, I think at times, we all compromise somewhere. We'd might simply look odd if we followed our beliefs to that extent. Yes, it does seem as if the person is contradicting her own statements. But then, if she had goods made in the US available at same cost, she would have given preference to them! It is her budget possibly that is her concern here. I think it is our necessities that determine to what extent we are likely to compromise at any point of time.
@polachicago (18716)
• United States
25 Feb 10
the person I am referring to has enough money to pay for quality products...but I do understand that some people are not having many choices...
• Canada
25 Feb 10
I know 100s of my co-workers and maybe millions more around the world believe that they are worth than they get paid for but continue on working anyways some even stays for 10 years or more. Actually I'm one of these people but I believe change is in the horizon.
@polachicago (18716)
• United States
25 Feb 10
This is quite different, people need to work to survive. But I have to agree, millions are working for less that they are worth.